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DustinB
08-20-2006, 01:28 PM
So is the indi zero 30 no good to any one because of the new computerized dischargers? I just bought one in the past and i am afraid its no good any more because their is computerized out just getting back in to the hobby and its getting out rageous have to buy new things all the time and when you buy them their out of date a week later. Not bashing anyone just wondering if its still useful thanks.

chikinhead
08-20-2006, 01:44 PM
yeah...you can still use it..kinda like when a new car comes out..you don't scrap the one your driving, but wait till you can afford the new one!!

98Ron
08-20-2006, 02:41 PM
the 0-30 is still usable. You have to be real careful using it on 3800 and 4200, from what I understand they do not like to be pulled down below .9 v.

So with a 0-30 when to lights go pull the pack off right away, If you get distracted and miss the lights going out it may hurt the pack.

Anything below 3800's love the 0-30.

DustinB
08-20-2006, 03:31 PM
thanks 98 ron

DustinB
08-20-2006, 03:40 PM
just lookin for opinons thanks

NCFRC
08-20-2006, 09:06 PM
THe 0-30 is a fine unit ,just pay attention to what your doing and you won't have any problems .
Discharge your pack on your charger/discharger down to .90 volt per cell and then before you recharge put in 0-30 and watch for the first light to go out , if your pack is still reasonably matched all other lights will go out within 30 sec to 1 min. Remove pack within this time !

No harm will be caused if done in this manner.

Do Not leave in for extended time !

These new dischargers are slightly better because they shut off automatically at a set voltage but if you forget and leave them there damage will still be caused by too long a voltage depression.

Don't run out and buy some fancy unit because other racers are.

Hope this helps

R.S.

pepe
08-20-2006, 10:08 PM
Actually the newer units are MUCH better,the unit will shut off at a user settable value with no voltage depression, unlike the zero thirty,it's a resistor based type unit that keeps the cells down until you remove the pack,not good if you get busy and forget about your cells,which we all do.

Racin Steve
08-21-2006, 07:02 PM
Actually the newer units are MUCH better,the unit will shut off at a user settable value with no voltage depression, unlike the zero thirty,it's a resistor based type unit that keeps the cells down until you remove the pack,not good if you get busy and forget about your cells,which we all do.

Sorry to argue but, ... the newer units are NOT that much better ... unless you don't know what you're doing. Using the 0-30 only requires a few seconds of your attention ... for anyone to leave their pack in the 0-30 for too long, it is obvious they're not using the tray properly. If you properly discharged your packs after the previous run and you only tray your packs before charging, it'll takes only a few seconds to discharge all cells.

In my book the 0-30 is still a notch above the rest because it discharges a much higher amperage ...

Steve.

NCFRC
08-21-2006, 08:27 PM
Sorry to argue but, ... the newer units are NOT that much better ... unless you don't know what you're doing. Using the 0-30 only requires a few seconds of your attention ... for anyone to leave their pack in the 0-30 for too long, it is obvious they're not using the tray properly. If you properly discharged your packs after the previous run and you only tray your packs before charging, it'll takes only a few seconds to discharge all cells.

In my book the 0-30 is still a notch above the rest because it discharges a much higher amperage ...

Steve.

I like the Integy 0-30 :thumbsup:

I think its great to hear other opinions and we're not really argueing , IN MY OPINION , the new units have lots of bells and whistles but all the ones I've read about hold the cells to the programmed voltage cutoff untill you remove them. At least Novak did finally improve their smart tray as they've been told for years that you can't let the cells load go at different times , but just a quick senerio ,,, you program any new tray to cut-off at .30 per cell and you get side tracted and they stay there for a long time " don't ask how long is too long " but the cells suffer from TOO LONG A VOLTAGE DEPRESSION and will loose huge run time.

Like I said before , less than a minute with a 0-30 and your fine.
Try something , put a voltmeter across a cell and watch what happens ,, the cell starts out with a full 30 amp load but as the voltage drops so does the amperage, with all lights out the cell will read aprox. .20-.25 volts and when you release the load the cell should bounce back to aprox. 1 volt within a min or two,,, thats all there is to it.
No matter what you discharge with your cells will bounce back slower as they age.

R.S.

pepe
08-22-2006, 07:40 AM
Steve I just put away my packs after a run,I don't discharge them until I'm ready to run again but I get busy with other stuff all the time and it helps a lot to know that my cells aren't getting killed when I forget about them in the tray,I really like my CTX-D it can also tell me if I have a bad cell,which the zero thirty can't do.But each to his own and if the zero thirty works for you great,no problem here.

dave w 1
08-22-2006, 08:49 AM
Pepe Do You Have The Version 2 Or 1 ?

Todd Putnam
08-22-2006, 10:19 AM
Pepe: The zero thirty can in fact tell you what cell is bad. If one light goes out and the other 5 are still lit, that port is holding your weak cell.:thumbsup:

pepe
08-22-2006, 02:09 PM
Pepe: The zero thirty can in fact tell you what cell is bad. If one light goes out and the other 5 are still lit, that port is holding your weak cell.:thumbsup:

Thanks Todd,
I just like the CTX-D it gives visual #'s to look at vs lights and it's fire and forget which I really need,my attention span gets kinda short at the track in between heats,and I am subject to forget about cells sitting in the discharger,LOL.

Dave I've got version 1,probably will update later this year.

NCFRC
08-23-2006, 09:23 AM
So is the indi zero 30 no good to any one because of the new computerized dischargers? I just bought one in the past and i am afraid its no good any more because their is computerized out just getting back in to the hobby and its getting out rageous have to buy new things all the time and when you buy them their out of date a week later. Not bashing anyone just wondering if its still useful thanks.

Keep your 0-30 and use as we descibed !
Your batteries will wear out before you cause any harm to your cells.
More racers spend endless time worrying about how to entend a packs life
by a few charges than how to properly set up their car !
Save that 100+ dollars and put it towards new packs in the future.

JUST MY OPINION :thumbsup:

R.S.

NCFRC
08-31-2006, 09:11 AM
Keep your 0-30 and use as we descibed !
Your batteries will wear out before you cause any harm to your cells.
More racers spend endless time worrying about how to entend a packs life
by a few charges than how to properly set up their car !
Save that 100+ dollars and put it towards new packs in the future.

JUST MY OPINION :thumbsup:

R.S.
Don't go scraping those 0-30 because of some fancy bells and whistles !!!!
Marketing at its best or maybe its worst.

RPM
08-31-2006, 03:53 PM
I'll sell my Zero-30! :thumbsup:

DOM-19
08-31-2006, 05:06 PM
It works well for me, when i place a pack on discharger i immediately watch to see which cell goes out first,if other cells still are bright i remove pack & use end prong to bring down each cell equally, so i don't let other cells get to low.

pepe
08-31-2006, 05:55 PM
That's why the MM and other units are better,they will automatically cutoff each cell as it is discharged,without you having to sit there and monitor it,and then do all that other end to end stuff.You pay for what you get.

dave w 1
08-31-2006, 07:29 PM
For A Guy Who Does Not Want To Sit There And Flip Cells End To End Side Ways And What Ever The Trinity For The Money Is Nice Lock And Load And Walk Away

NCFRC
08-31-2006, 11:24 PM
To market a product you first have to create a need or a problem because you hold the cure or solution.
Its up to the individual but these dischargers have gotten a little out of hand and racers are spending too much money to possibly gain .005 volts and a little more battery life :confused:

Anybody remember when slot car racing peaked , like falling off a cliff , sooner or later it'll hit this sport.

R.S.

dave w 1
09-01-2006, 08:40 AM
oval racing peaked a long time ago in the early 90 s i was there i now it s on the way back up now slowley but it is making a return :thumbsup:

pepe
09-01-2006, 11:24 AM
To market a product you first have to create a need or a problem because you hold the cure or solution.
Its up to the individual but these dischargers have gotten a little out of hand and racers are spending too much money to possibly gain .005 volts and a little more battery life :confused:

Anybody remember when slot car racing peaked , like falling off a cliff , sooner or later it'll hit this sport.

R.S.

It's the little things that make the difference in this sport,you'd be surprised what a .010 shim will do for a car,just like that .005 volts.when your searcing for .1 of a sec