my speed control would shut down in the first corner or go a couple laps and do it again ..........there were 5 guys using the new sphere comp and 4 of the 5 were doing the same thing.....need some help

I taked to LRP today I was told to check and see if the speedo was in the Lipo mode. If it was that would cause the shut down I believe the man said in the Lipo mode the speedo will detect voltage loss and shutdown

great i will check that

i checked the speedo and it was in lipo .....so i changed it and i hope to run it again to make sure

yeah me to!

ok my speedo isnt in lipo mode and periodcally still shuts down, its not thermaling, is there anyone else havn this problem,,,LMN

Charlie Flanagan

Me too, but you already know about my issues muddd.

Not in Li-Po mode, not thermaling, just lose motor control and it slowly rolls to a stop, still have steering the whole time. Turn off and back on and it's good for a little while longer. Running a 4300, so I can't imagine it's an overcurrent issue.
Mine went in to Associated today for them to check out, we'll see what they say.

Anybody else?

Later
Jay

mayb we need receiver packs?

had the same problem reprogrammed speedo for race mode no more problem

If I am not mistaken, Race Mode is NiMh mode and is switching out of what we are calling Li-Po mode.

I thought about the receiver pack thing as well, but I don't think we should have to do that to get these to run if they are made to work on 4 cell. But if it works, then I would have to do it, too much invested to just say to heck with it.

I dont think so on the rec pack... Ive run practice packs in mine completely down to where the car wont move and never had mine stop..

Jay's was strange in that HE would program it...then when it sshut off and he would bring it in the thing would be in a different mode... Which begs the question.. Did you complete the programing cycle when you did that??? as in keep hitting the send button untill it returns to run mode..?? because if you didnt>>>as in set it to lipo then ran it...while the program was not saved them maybe its reverting back to default which is LIPO??? just a guess.

I thought about that as well and made sure it was in Ni-Mh mode, that's the only way to get out of programming unless you turn it off, and I didn't do that becuase I wasn't sure if it would keep the settings or revert back.

The weird thing was I tried to put it back in Li-Po mode just to see if it was different, and it wouldn't keep the setting, so maybe it was changing modes but would only indicate Ni-Mh mode when I went back to it. If that was the case, who knows what mode I was really in, and something is screwed up and needs fixed. Hopefully the LRP Repair guys can find and fix my issue.

Later
Jay

Still waiting on word from LRP about my speedo. Cali is a long way from OH, especially by carrier pigeon.

i had mine stop in the corner about a minute into racing on saturday. no heart beat no lights no nothing. no servo power either? i have run it for about 5 months now without a hitch! i even cut the switch to see if it was the problem. it's dead! errrrrr it's going back to lrp today!

Still waiting on mine to come back, sent in on the 6th, they received on the 11th, haven't heard a word out of them.

Good Luck to you.

Jay

GO get a GTB thats what i am goonna get when I get mine..... Daryl bought oonee and his did same thing last night 3 laps and it was dead, he shipped it back today he is mad.

What a Bunch of Junk :thumbsup:

Mad is an under statement,no help from lrp they could of cared less that it was ran for 1 and a half minutes. where did customer support go.

This is not what I want to hear. I just purchased a comp ESC to run in the BRL races. I should have it all together this week. I hope I dont have the same problems!!!!

Must be a lucky 1..........Ran mine for the 1st time, half a day at a Test And Tune.........Good to go so far !! :cool:

Not defending LRP or anything guys but make sure that when you set your speed control that you set it to NIMH mode, but when you done....dont just shut it off. What I have had to do on mine and others is when I go into the mode settings. Make your setting where you want it and then scoll through the rest of them back to the beginning. In most cases if this is not done they will go back to default settings.


Another one that can cause issues is foam getting in through the set up holes. Cover them holes if you can or want to with tape

Id agree with you rob..I never covered the holes But the ones that Ive seen that are messing up, I can usually fix by going through the entire menu of options when doing the initial program..

I ran my Sphere Comp for the first time yesterday. It did shut down one time after a few minutes. I went through the setup completely like Rob said and did not have any trouble after that. Although, I was in the proper NiMh/race mode to begin with.

So far, so good. But, I still cross my fingers!!

I've had an original Sphere since middle of last year, and it is a dust nightmare. The dirt gets in it and one or both setup buttons quit working. LRP acted like this is my fault. They said I should have had tape over the setup button holes. Well, after getting mine back for the 3rd time (getting buttons replaced), I had to tape the holes. Dust still got into it. I then had to silicone the sensor wire plug (around the wire after plugging it in), and where the servo and switch wires come out. Well, now I don't dare touch the setup buttons and dust is still sticking to the bottom of the holes (where I taped the hole up). Other than this, it runs fine, the buttons just mess up too easily. I race off road, but not in any more dust than the normal track when it is dry and dusty. I've had several other speed controls over several years (since 1990) and not one had buttons quit working because of it.

Official word from Associated on my speedo is, "We can't find anything wrong."

At least it's on the way back to me. They weren't kidding at all when they said up to 14 business days. Close to 4 weeks wasted on this crap.

Hopefully I'm just an idiot and can't seem to program it correctly, we'll see.

Later
Jay

Jay got one of my speedo's back this week, also told nothing wrong, had mine 4 weeks, what do ya do? did they make u feel like u were a idiot to,,,,,,,,good luck to u man

C3

So, it looks like a guy has to have a good spare (GTB) on hand for the time your LRP is in the shop!

I hope I have one of the good Sphere Comp's. I have never been more disappointed. And mine still works. I know lots of drivers that have had ZERO trouble with the GTB. I have seen a couple GTB's go bad, but I would suspect they were being abused to some degree. This LRP issue seems to pop up unsolicited. I burned up a friends LRP speedo (the first version not a COMP) a couple weeks ago with a 13.5 motor.

I am waiting for my Sphere to come back from repair also. Had it for 2 weeks, ran it at a race locally with a Novak 4.5 and in the mains, the speedo would not go full throttle. Sent it in for repair over 3 weeks ago. Called at the beginning of this week to find out the status and had to leave voicemail. Never got a call back. Called yesterday and got through to someone who then put me on hold for about 5 minutes, came back, and was told that they had tested it and found nothing wrong. However, they were going to put it in a car and test it under load.

Guess we'll see what happens. However, seeing the comments on this thread, I am expecting them to come back and tell me, "No Trouble Found." Greeeeat...

-Rich

The guy was nice, can't complain about that, but I got the idea that he didn't really understand what was wrong. I sent a DETAILED description of what was happening. He said it ran fine for him on a dyno and in a car, so I asked if the Red LED coming on when it shuts down was some kind of code or the LiPo shutdown sequence or something and all he said was he tested the LEDs and the brakes and they worked fine so he had no choice other than to send it back to me. So that explains it I guess, so anybody else that has any problems, just make sure your LEDs and brakes work and save 4 weeks. Still hasn't came in the mail yet so I'm still waiting.

It will for sure be the last LRP product I ever spend my hard earned money on. That extra punch or whatever doesn't do crap when it shuts off after 2 minutes. Maybe Tekin will be our savior, we'll see I guess. Too bad that Castle Creations one is 6 cell and doesn't work well with Novak motors.

Later
Jay

Nowhere in the manual does it say that once you have set it to NIMH to turn it off. You must complete the entire Mode set-up or it will revert back to factory settings which is lipo mode. The cut-off for a 2-cell lipo is 5.5v. A 4 cell pack charges to 6.2v and settles to 4.8 pretty quick. I've been running 3 Sphere comps in various cars all summer with no trouble. Got the motor up to 196.8o and it did not shut down. Set 'em up the way the book says and you'll have no trouble. Think you're smarter than the book and you'll be in deep.

... Got the motor up to 196.8o and it did not shut down. Set 'em up the way the book says and you'll have no trouble. Think you're smarter than the book and you'll be in deep.
It didn't shut down at 196° because the Reedy motors don't have temperature sensors in them. Only the ESC has a temp sensor.

I think Kevin is smarter than the book.

I don't have a reedy motor, so I don't know about that. The motor in question is a Novak 4300.

I don't have a reedy motor, so I don't know about that. The motor in question is a Novak 4300.
Veeeery interesting...
The novak ESCs are set to shut down at around 175°,maybe the LRP set their limit higher. Or maybe they don't even check the motor temp? I asked Associated in an email where they set their temp limit, but they replied that they didn't know! Another possibility is that your 4300 might have an incorrect or faulty temp sensor. (I've got a 5800 motor that came back from repair without a temp sensor, so it does happen sometimes.) I know the original Sphere would shut down if the ESC got too hot because it happened to me.

That's why I didn't buy the original Sphere and the Novak is too tall, big, jumbo cap/shottky, heavy, hard to install in my aplication,..........
And I've always had good luck with LRP products. Not like I've never blown a speedo, but in that I've blown my share of all the brands, but I've won the most with LRP products.

Me too, but you already know about my issues muddd.

Not in Li-Po mode, not thermaling, just lose motor control and it slowly rolls to a stop, still have steering the whole time. Turn off and back on and it's good for a little while longer. Running a 4300, so I can't imagine it's an overcurrent issue.
Mine went in to Associated today for them to check out, we'll see what they say.

Anybody else?

Later
Jay

They have had my second one since July.One week after it was sent in they said their was nothing wrong with it.It will be for sale as soon as I get it back.My gtb works flawlessly.

Another guy at my track sent his in for the same problem as mine, and they told him to run a receiver pack and it wouldn't happen.

Still waiting on mine to see if I'm just not as smart as some people on here.
Sounds like there is a market for a speedo programming service for all of us stupid people.

RE-Post for those of you who missed it. Follow what I have said and your sphere should be fine. but you have to follow it and go completely through the modes. Just helped a guy at my local track with it this past weekend. He ran a few laps and it shut off. I reset it using the below method and no more troubles. TRUST me it works



Not defending LRP or anything guys but make sure that when you set your speed control that you set it to NIMH mode, but when you done....dont just shut it off. What I have had to do on mine and others is when I go into the mode settings. Make your setting where you want it and then scoll through the rest of them back to the beginning. In most cases if this is not done they will go back to default settings.


Another one that can cause issues is foam getting in through the set up holes. Cover them holes if you can or want to with tape
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Another guy at my track sent his in for the same problem as mine, and they told him to run a receiver pack and it wouldn't happen.

Still waiting on mine to see if I'm just not as smart as some people on here.
Sounds like there is a market for a speedo programming service for all of us stupid people.

Jay Ill reprogram yours for $172 .JK ..He he he.. Let me know when you get it back and Ill go through it..I told Daryl the same thing.. Ive debugged quite a few.. Ill send my consulting bill to LRP and see if they reimburse me for it..LOL

Going to hopefully need that programming soon kenwood

Mine was programed by a 20 year Associated team driver.I could see if I programed it,but I know he knew what he was doing.

Thanks Kenwood, I'll look you up as soon as I get the POS back. They must be using the Pony Express to get it back to me, geeze.

Murdock - so the ones you've "fixed", do they show they are in NiMh mode and are really not? I checked mine a few times and it always showed it was in the correct mode. I did try putting it in LiPo mode to see what happened and turned it off and it went back to where it was before, but it always showed NiMh mode when I had my problems.

Thanks
Jay

I left AE vmail again yesterday asking what was up with my speedo since it is now going on 4 weeks. No call back from them.

-Rich

I was glad to see the little Brown truck backing in to my driveway just a few minutes ago. Those poor guys work late. The date on the bag said it was received at AE on 9/12, so just over a month turnaround time.

Figures it would come now, it's going to sit on my bench for another week while I go out of town for work.

Oh well, I'm just glad to finally have it back so I can practice programming it before I go to the track.

later
Jay

Well mine shut down and then went up in smoke. I dont have a clue what happened, but I was 1 out of another 4 guys that had BL controllers go up in smoke this weekend. I think I lost my new novak 13.5 in the mess also. I was using the LRP Comp. Sphere. Hope they will warranty the thing for me.

A racer at my local track had his 2 minute old Sphere Comp and 13.5 go up in smoke tonight also.

Sure would like to hear from those who said we would all save a bunch of $$$ running brushless. Better have a backup at all times and then have a backup for the backup.

A racer at my local track had his 2 minute old Sphere Comp and 13.5 go up in smoke tonight also.

Sure would like to hear from those who said we would all save a bunch of $$$ running brushless. Better have a backup at all times and then have a backup for the backup.


I second that... Im tempted to go back to the old school way of doing things. I have NEVER in 15 years of racing had an esc go up in smoke. Not happy at all.

Hello
I'm the one Metal was talking about. Ran my Sphere Comp. all night on Friday (5 runs) in 4 cell stock. Sat. first battery ran for 20 laps with my new 13.5 motor - temp 90 degrees. Geared up alittle ran 10 more laps motor power failed took car to my pits and smoke started rolling out of the speed control. Speed control still works with brushed motors. Also, motor feels like it has a bad bearing now. I'm not taking it apart its going back as is. 300.00 before first BRL race exciting----Smoke from speedo and bad motor............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .......................................PRICELESS!

I guess I need a spare $300.00 system at ready five. Roar stock motor I can get for $25.00. Sportsman 13.5 stock (same speed as a 27 turn) $77.00. The next person who says brushless is way cheaper and easier please read this post. Hope you guys have better luck.

Scott

Sounds like Sphere Comps can tell when they are being used with Novak motors and they don't like it. Not one bit!

Well, that's a load of crap if I ever heard one. I think most of this is attributed to improper installation and setup. I posted about the LiPo/NiMH setting MONTHS ago before this thread ever came up. :)

Most speed controls blow up for reasons outside of their control, usually improper installation, which usually leads to shorting.