Hey guys. right now I currently race a xxx-s g+ sedan at my local track and the way the car is configued it is very hard to get the wires solderd/ unsolderd also my reasoning for wanting to use plugs on the motor end is because as the solder is worked and reworked it contiunes to detereorate. so by using quality plugs on the motor and making one good solder joint I think that the diference will hardly be noticable. so because right now the wires i have on my esc the solder has ben worked into the wires so many times they look like total crap compared to when i first started direct soldering my motor. also I like to be able to take my motor out of my car very quickly so that I can put it on my thermo electric cooler and so that it can be cleaned without having to have a hot iorn. so what do you guys think. maby i can use some silver solder and do a realy good job so that it wont realy matter. and man it is realy hard to get wires solderd in that car. so just give me some input. I may just have to end up replacing the wires on the esc because they are so short and find a new way to rout them. because the way i origionaly had them they rubbed on the rear tire. and carved the crap out of the tire and wire. idk im so confued.


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Sean Scott

Nothing wrong with using a good quality plug on the motor lines, Not as clean a look as direct solder, but theres no performance drawbacks.

thats what i thought. but you said its not as clean looking as direct soldering. lol if you saw the condition the ends of my wires are in you would almost beg me to use some plugs. also i thought about when i get a new motor and it has those brand new fresh copper tabs going out and getting some of those trinity no solder motor clips. ive thought about the advantages because I dont realy understand why we still solder as much as we do because any time electricity has to flow thrugh solder you are losing alot of energy. so I was thinking why not use those little clips. the only disadvantage would be is that they may become uncliped during a race and short out or something.


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Sean Scott

no use those little clips, the like skuare one and the one it fits into thats what i use and i dont use solder i crimp them ill go find a pic!

peace ;)

one more! :rolleyes:

yea thats what i am looking fore only the ones that trinity makes use gold plated harwhere thats probably more efficent than those unless those are copper with silver plating. but thats ok because i alread changed out my motor to deans and i think i did a pretty bang up job if i do say so myself. the only thing i dont like is i think it adds a bit of weight to the car and now i have this large red rectangle hovering next to my motor. lol. thats ok the way i drive I dont think i will notice a few little grams of weight heck i was even thinking about putting wall patch reinforcing tape on the front of my car to make it less likely to crack.


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Sean Scott

If you are racing, don't use those kind of clips on the motor (or the Trinity ones). They are like Tamiya connectors in that they are made of thin metal and don't carry a lot of current. Use something like Deans plugs or PowerPoles.

Regarding soldering, I have soldered and unsoldered wires many times without having them get that messy squashed out look. The secret is a hot soldering iron (or gun - see next paragraph) and using soldering flux every time you solder or unsolder. The reason they get squashed is because without the flux people have to press the iron real hard to get any heat transfer. The flux improves heat transfer so much, you don't need to press hard with the iron.

And if you don't want to wait for an iron to heat up, get a Weller D-550 325 watt soldering gun. It is plenty for motor wires and can actually even be used for soldering batteries (without damaging them) if you know what you are doing.

^^^yup... Plus they loose connection over bumps.

I have seen people use deans for there motor, I am thinking about doing it myself

them crimp style connectors are made of either tin plated brass, phos bronze, or carbon steel.... i know this because we make them at work. they are kind of crappy for this type of application.

deans connectors are pretty good... duratrax sells the red/black powerpole connectors, they conduct well also, i used them for years and never melted them... and i backyard bashed my trucks with 2400 batteries and 9 turn motors :D

whatever connectors you get, make sure ya solder them in place :)

Thanks guys but i actualy did switch back to deans on the motor and i like it because it allows me to work on my motor without having to solder and unsolder it. but yes i do have that nasty squashed out look on the wires. and i have some craftsman liquid electrical flux that i like using. and then i use paste flux to dip the tip of my soldering iorn in to help when i am cleaning it. but i just dont like reworking solder that much.



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Sean Scott