Beginning tonight at 11pm, The Cartoon Network adds "Pee Wee's Playhouse" to it's nightly schedule. They will run all 45 half-hour episodes in their original order. I'm going to burn out my DVR recording these for my daughter (and for myself!)

I saw him do playhouse on HBO for an adult audience. It would've garnered only a PG13 rating, but the innuendo was hilarious. The guy's brilliant.

I remember the first movie he had out. When he riding with that lady truck driver............................. :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
"Tell them Large Marge sent ya"

I saw him do playhouse on HBO for an adult audience. It would've garnered only a PG13 rating, but the innuendo was hilarious. The guy's brilliant.

Love the HBO version. And I consider the Saturday morning series to be quite possibly the most subversive show ever to run on network television.

I still think his first appearence at the on some award show after his "troubles" was one of the funniest things I ever saw, when he walked out to the podium and slyly said,"So..........you heard any goods jokes lately?" I almost lost a lung.

His Letterman appearences back then had the same adult tone as the HBO show, it was amazing what he could get away with sometimes.

Have you all forgotten that the guy is a convicted sex offender?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Reubens#First_arrest

I enjoyed all Paul's work as Pee wee. I would make coffee in the morning and the kids and I had a blast watching that show.

I think sex offender is a bit harsh. Matter of fact don't think he was ever convicted...

Have you all forgotten that the guy is a convicted sex offender?

"Reubens made a deal with the Sarasota County court: in exchange for a fine and a few public service announcements, he was given a clean record."

Hey, Pee-Wee did something incredibly stupid, but it's not like he was exposing himself to kids or anything. It was an adult theater.

Still, I wonder what ever happened to those public service announcements, I bet those were a hoot.

"Hey everybody, movie theaters are for watching movies, so please respect the other patrons!"

or

"Hey Folks, this is my special friend, Mr Video Cassette Recorder. Can you say Mr Video Cassette Recorder? He's a wonderful device that lets you watch pornography in your very own home!"

Huh... so one guy makes a deal to get the charges of illegally possessing drugs dismissed, gets a clean record and he's considered not guilty....

But some other guy makes a deal to get the charges of indicent exposure in an adult theater dismissed but he's a convicted sex offender?

How does that work?

The last I heard they found child porn on his computer, along with the "ferris bueller principal". Never heard what happened after that.

Have you all forgotten that the guy is a convicted sex offender?

As stated - not convicted. I thought about that for about 2 seconds before buying "Pee Wee's Big Adventure" for my daughter when she was 5 years-old. I love that movie and she does too. I still listen to The Who and enjoy watching "The Adventures of Robin Hood" on occasion too.

The last I heard they found child porn on his computer, along with the "ferris bueller principal". Never heard what happened after that.

You could read the link Steve R. posted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Reubens#First_arrest

OH, it was olde child porn, and he just collected it as artwork. That's OK then.
Funny how it was scanned into his computer without him knowing what it was.

I have artwork too. Pee Wee Martini.

http://images.ibsys.com/2006/0523/9260330.jpg

Okay. I am now officially sorry that I started this thread. All copies of Pee Wee's Playhouse should be burned. The term "In Like Flynn" should be stricken from our collective memory. And all copies of The Who album "It's Hard" should be banished to The Forbidden Zone. (Actually, that third suggestion is not a bad idea.)

There's a difference between sexual innuendo and child porn. Ask Gary Glitter.

Nevermind.

Just because he made a plea bargain and got a "clean record" does not mean he is innocent of the charges that he was arrested for to begin with. He had child porn on his pc? That suggests to me that he cannot be trusted around children.

Beating it in an adult movie house doesn't sound like all that big a deal to me. I mean, I thought that's what those places were for. As for the kiddie porn? Who knows? Those charges were dropped. Sounds to me like if the cops had a legit case, he would've been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Especially since he already had a Prior. Come to think of it, we had 2 adult movie houses in Raleigh. The "Camera's Eye" was one. The "Chateau II" was the other. Both establishments are still there, I believe, albeit under other names. Been arrested for several things, but never for shakin' hands with myself.

Been arrested for several things, but never for shakin' hands with myself.You really shoudl post more Yama!:lol:

I don't think any chilldren were touched nor harmed in any way before, during, nor after the production of Peewee's Playhouse.

When it comes to porn on his PC, I wonder if he actually knew the subjects were underage. As amazing as it may be, there are teens who pretend to be older when making porn films. Remember Traci Lords? When the truth about her came out, every last person who had a nude pic of her and/or copy of any of her previous films could have been charged and convicted of having child pornography.

I'm guessing PR wasn't prosecuted to the full extent of the law because the cops didn't feel it was worth it. I'm sure the cops felt the children weren't in any danger by letting him off the hook.

I don't think any chilldren were touched nor harmed in any way before, during, nor after the production of Peewee's Playhouse.

I don't think it was ever even alleged.

Hey, give Pee-Wee some credit, at least he wasn't running around bellowing for stiffer sentences for people that danced with themselves while watching porn, or calling for stiffer penalties for white suburban guys that had porn on their computers before he was ever arrested. And after accepting his plea deal, he didn't go on Pee-Wee's Playhouse loudly insisting he was found not guilty and was totally vindicated.

Unlike some "moral" celebrities that come to mind.

Don't forget being in possession of porn that was purchased under someone else's name.

I don't think its nessasary to to dislike the Pee-Wee Herman character just because Paul may or may not be as moral as you like. Pee-Wee Herman is funny. I want a model of his bike. Paul was also quite good in "Blow" (and other things I can't remember right now...)

Recorded the first episode last night and watched it with my daughter this morning. Even though she's only 7, she's hooked on Disney Channel shows like "The Sweet Life of Zack and Cody" and "That's So Raven" which target a more "adolescent" audience. I was concerned that she would consider herself too "sophisticated" for a "kiddie show" like Pee-wee's Playhouse but she went right past that and was fairly riveted by the show's wildly creative bizarro universe. The first episode had pretty much everything - Phil Hartman as Captain Carl, Shirley Stoler as Mrs. Steve, Lawrence Fishburne as Cowboy Curtis, The King of Cartoons, Miss Yvonne, Mr. Knucklehead, Jambi The Genie, a "Penny" short, lots of clever little claymation interludes, and a recipe for ice-cream soup. Say what you will about Reubens - Pee-wee's Playhouse is like nothing else that's ever been on television.

And if he had been calling for stiffer sentences then he would have looked like a hipocrit with his past.
I can't help but wonder what your reactions/attitudes would be if the guy was living next door and not a celbrity, would any of you want him near yor children then?

And if he had been calling for stiffer sentences then he would have looked like a hipocrit with his past.

" Pee Wee "?

" Stiffer sentences " ?

I dread the direction this thread is going... :P

My main concern about PeeWee livin' next door to me is that his bike would be cooler than mine.

And if he had been calling for stiffer sentences then he would have looked like a hipocrit with his past.
I can't help but wonder what your reactions/attitudes would be if the guy was living next door and not a celbrity, would any of you want him near yor children then?

Yes, let's just label a guy a child molester despite the fact he's never been convicted of touching a child. And never being even accused of touching a child. And never been even accused of attempting to photograph a child. 'Cause it's for the kids.


And the "next door" argument is a little stacked and dishonest. You have to watch everybody around your kids, if you are a good parent.

If you don't like Pee-Wee/Ruebins public behavior, don't buy his DVD's or let your kids watch his show. That is your right. But it doesn't have to make him a convicted child molester to everybody.

Marlowe,
Good point. Y'know, from what I hear, Spencer Tracy was givin' it & gettin' it from Kate Hepburn over the years, despite the fact that ol' Spence stayed married to someone else. Matter of fact, Spence stayed married to the same chick for over 40 years. But that never stopped him from steppin' out and sampling the wares. And despite the fact that he wasn't honoring his vows, I still really liked the guy in "Bad Day at Black Rock." Seems Spence was pretty decent on the screen. But despite the fact that Spence a movie star, I could never, ever live next door to him. I mean, after all, my Significant Other probably wouldn't be safe with him on the prowl.

And if he had been calling for stiffer sentences then he would have looked like a hipocrit with his past.
I can't help but wonder what your reactions/attitudes would be if the guy was living next door and not a celbrity, would any of you want him near yor children then?

I really don't see what kind of point you're trying to make irishtrek. From what I've read about the "second arrest" (and which I had totally forgotten about), it appears to have been a "set up" or at the very least an example of over-zealous prosecution. Have you ever watched an Errol Flynn movie or would watching one somehow make you complicit in the fact that Flynn was actually tried for having sex with underaged girls? Of course, he was acquitted - which means he wasn't guilty, doesn't it? Or does it? My inclination is to believe that Reubens wasn't guilty of the charges which is why they were dropped. My inclination is to believe that Flynn was guilty of the charges even though he was acquitted. We all gotta' make decisions in life - hopefully based on a little common sense.

Marlowe,
Good point. Y'know, from what I hear, Spencer Tracy was givin' it & gettin' it from Kate Hepburn over the years, despite the fact that ol' Spence stayed married to someone else. Matter of fact, Spence stayed married to the same chick for over 40 years. But that never stopped him from steppin' out and sampling the wares. And despite the fact that he wasn't honoring his vows, I still really liked the guy in "Bad Day at Black Rock." Seems Spence was pretty decent on the screen. But despite the fact that Spence a movie star, I could never, ever live next door to him. I mean, after all, my Significant Other probably wouldn't be safe with him on the prowl.

http://www.britannica.com/oscars/Images/photos/oacawar004p1.jpg

Uh-oh!

"I really don't see what kind of point you're trying to make irishtrek."

Scott,
Welcome to the club. I never see the kind of point he's trying to make. With him, everything is an epiphany of the smallest magnitude.

Marlowe,
Funny you should post that pic. (And a funny post, given our subject matter.) But I just saw "Captains Courageous" on Saturday. Great flick, despite Tracy's "outrageous accent." (If he's Portuguese, then hey, I'ma Italiano.)

Marlowe,
Funny you should post that pic. (And a funny post, given our subject matter.) But I just saw "Captains Courageous" on Saturday. Great flick, despite Tracy's "outrageous accent." (If he's Portuguese, then hey, I'ma Italiano.)

One of my faves, got the DVD. You gotta like a movie so old John Carradine's face doesn't have a wrinkle on it.

On further investigation, I don't think I want Pee-Wee living next door to me. I have it on good authority Pee-Wee lied about his swift boat service in Vietnam:
http://learning.cc.hccs.edu/Members/cschweitzer/images/kerry.jpg

When in fact he had a cushy job at the rear with the Navy's Secret Mammal Program at Long Duc Dong:
http://www.americanmusicals.com/images/Pee-weeShamu.jpg

And you don't even want to know his position on gay marriage:

http://www.askjimmycarter.com/images/22904/jcpeeweeherman.jpg

(My own little salute to Yamahog, who's post crack me up!)

"Young Flynn was a rambunctious child who could be counted on to find trouble. When the family took up residence in England, Errol managed to have himself thrown out of every school he was enrolled in. In his late teens he set out to find gold, but instead found a series of short lived odd jobs. Information is sketchy, but the positions of police constable, sanitation engineer, treasure hunter, sheep castrator, shipmaster for hire, fisherman, and soldier seem to be among his more reputable career choices."

"Flynn was well known for drinking, womanizing, and throwing wild parties. However, his lifestyle caught up with him when teenagers Betty Hansen and Peggy Satterlee accused him of statutory rape in November 1942. A group organized to support Flynn, named the American Boys Club for the Defense of Errol Flynn (ABCDEF); its members included, surprisingly,William F. Buckley Jr. The trial took place in January and February of 1943, and Flynn was cleared of the crime. The incident served to increase his reputation as a lady's man, and the term "In Like Flynn" came to be synonymous with succeeding in romantic endeavors."


Don't know that I'd want Flynn as a neighbor either. I'd have to worry about my wife, my daughter, and my sheep!

Y'know I was able to tour Flynn's property about 25 years ago. It has long since been leveled. It was owned, at that time, by Rick Nelson. I was riding along Mulholland wanting to see the infamous property that Flynn wrote about in his autobiography. After finding the house (no small feat in itself), I was taking pictures through the gate (complete with dogs barking at me from the other side of the fence) when a young hottie drove up Flynn's old driveway and inquired as to who I was. When I explained that I was a fan of the Baron and had quite a time being able to find the property she actually opened the gate for me as her car drove in, backed the dogs away and let me spend the next 15 minutes or so, running about the property taking photos. I asked her who lived there now and she said she worked for Rick Nelson, but that he was out of town. I shot an entire roll of film and inspected the pool, tennis court and stables. Sent her a thank-you note when I got home, as well. Now there's a story that's 100% on the up-and-up and an experience that would be just about impossible to duplicate in this day and age. Now that the house is gone, I feel so much the luckier. Quite an impressive bit of property was Flynn's.

He also named names at the McCarthy Hearings:

http://radio.weblogs.com/0113064/images/2004/04/07/tdy_stone_peewee_040402.275.jpg "That's D-A-L, T-O-N, T-R-U-M-B-O"



Made obscene "falafal" calls to Bill O'Riley's assistant:

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/P/htmlP/peeweespla/peeweesplaIMAGE/peeweespla.jpg

Supported NAFTA:

http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/e0297d60.jpg

And was responsible for those rumors about Lance Armstrong's steroid use:

http://home.rmci.net/bikeboy/graphics-photos/PeeWeeTour.jpg

Marlowe,
I would definately say that the Fleming version is one of the Top-30 films of all time. Bartholemew is great in role that showed WHY he was the way he was. Barrymore, Rooney and Carradine are top notch, as well.

You guys are a tough audience, I thought that
"That's D-A-L, T-O-N, T-R-U-M-B-O"
was seriously funny.

First of all Phiip I never said to label the guy a child molester.
And Yamahog it's hard to see the points that you are tring to make.
I really like the way you guys twist sombodys words around, you all should run for public office.
And I fail to see what Rubens past situation has to do with Spencer Tracy.
2 completly different situations.

"And Yamahog it's hard to see the points that you are tring to make."

I'm not making any points. I'm simply blathering.

"I really like the way you guys twist sombodys words around,"

No you don't.

"And I fail to see what Rubens past situation has to do with Spencer Tracy.
2 completly different situations."

The point is this: if you aren't comfortable having your children live next door to PeeWee, are you comfortable having your wife live next door to Spencer Tracy? See? Now that wasn't all that hard, now was it?

Your wife would have a choice of whether or not to cheat on you, where as your children would have no choice to be assulted by a child molester, so there fore there is no connection between the 2. Depends on how you look at it.

First of all Phiip I never said to label the guy a child molester..

No, you said "Have you forgotten he's a convicticted sex offender", which was inaccurate factually. You implied he was some terrible child molestin' prevert that you don't want living next door to you and yours, despite the fact the guy's never been accused of ANY inappropriate behavior toward a child.

And I agree with Zorro and Yama, with his previous arrest and not exactly A-list celebrity status, whatever was on his computer must have been real mild for a DA to say "No sense prosecuting this", especially since DA's usually don't mind a little press that suggest they're tough on child pornography.

I really like the way you guys twist sombodys words around, you all should run for public office.

I felt the same way about your "if he lived next door" remark. And continual use of the phrase child molestor.

And I fail to see what Rubens past situation has to do with Spencer Tracy.
2 completly different situations.

Maybe some pictures would help:)

Your wife would have a choice of whether or not to cheat on you, where as your children would have no choice to be assulted by a child molester, so there fore there is no connection between the 2. Depends on how you look at it.

On second thought, pictures may be a waste of time.

Perhaps it's this photo that's causing your confusion:
http://c.myspace.com/events/85/55/255558_m.jpg

Relax, it's just a costume. He's not really a member of the clergy.

You guys are a tough audience, I thought that
"That's D-A-L, T-O-N, T-R-U-M-B-O"
was seriously funny.

I did too, actually.:)

[QUOTE=PhilipMarlowe]No, you said "Have you forgotten he's a convicticted sex offender", which was inaccurate factually. You implied he was some terrible child molestin' prevert that you don't want living next door to you and yours, despite the fact the guy's never been accused of ANY inappropriate behavior toward a child.

I was not impling any thing of the sort.



I felt the same way about your "if he lived next door" remark. And continual use of the phrase child molestor.

I used the term child molester ONE time.


On second thought, pictures may be a waste of time.

Perhaps it's this photo that's causing your confusion:
[IMG]http://c.myspace.com/events/85/55/255558_m.jpg[/I

And no that photo is not causing me any confusion, perhaps it is you who is confused by the photo?

[QUOTE=PhilipMarlowe]

On second thought, pictures may be a waste of time.

Perhaps it's this photo that's causing your confusion:
[IMG]http://c.myspace.com/events/85/55/255558_m.jpg[/I

And no that photo is not causing me any confusion, perhaps it is you who is confused by the photo?

I find this confusing. Hint to irishtrek. Don't go out for the debating team.

Yes it is getting confusing.

It's very simple. Any creative work exists in an of itself independant of its creator. If PEE WEE'S PLAYHOUSE had advocated pornography or if children had been molested during its production, that would be one thing. But the worse anyone can say is that it was a "subversive" program whose creator and host turned out to be a pervert.

If we were to purge our video stores of all movies made by people with serious personality problems or less than sterling moral characters, the shelves would be pretty bare. Normal, well-adjusted people do not go into the movie business.

Your wife would have a choice of whether or not to cheat on you, where as your children would have no choice to be assulted by a child molester, so there fore there is no connection between the 2. Depends on how you look at it.

So what your saying is, that children can be easily tricked and manuipulated (which I happen to agree with), but that your wife could not be tricked or manipulated by Spencer Tracy. I wouldn't be so sure. Has your wife even met Spencer Tracy?

Zorro,

My favorite exchange, so far:

"Perhaps it's this photo that's causing your confusion:"

"And no that photo is not causing me any confusion, perhaps it is you who is confused by the photo?"

IrishTrek is classic!

--Hawg (who is confused, period.)