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katf1sh
06-27-2006, 08:13 PM
ok this is in it's infancy stages and may never get any further than this thread.

but i think with a little help we could have one heck of a nice oval race!

we will need a track that is located central to the racers.
we need a track that can support up to 200 racers (racers not entries)
we need sponsors
a list of hotels (cheap)
a simple set of rules
classes

i was thinking:
4300
19 turn
stock
truck
open mod
12th scale 19 turn

the first place trophy needs to knock your socks off!
we need to look at what makes coopers a great event.
magazine coverage
live race results (a must)
a race date that doesn't step on toes
lot's of manufacturer support

do we need novice classes?

PUF19
06-27-2006, 08:20 PM
This could really happen! so what is central to fla-ME ;0)

Alan Behler
06-27-2006, 08:21 PM
hey how about the 2007 snowbirds :p
actually i would be interested

bologna
06-27-2006, 09:45 PM
1600 miles from bangor me to tampabay fl..

sooooooo my vote would be for trax 70 hehehe a little north of half way tho

i guess va or nc would be the places to look

losi888
06-27-2006, 09:54 PM
Indoor around the Virgina Area would be nice. Although Trax 70 is another great choice.

Joe DiGirolamo

BILL80
06-27-2006, 10:39 PM
Yeah, I think the time might be about right to consider such an adventure. But, there are several things that we will have to look at in order for it to even have a chance at being successful. One of the biggest and first things at this point is location yes, but probably the most important thing is the date, time of year. Spring, Summer, Winter, Fall? Let's here some date ideas. Pro & cons.

Meanwhile, I'll start getting my thoughts and ideas together.
(the wheels in the head are already turning)

Katf1sh & PUF19, drop me an email. Anyone else with solid ideas too.

Thanks,
Bill
bill@billhenning.com

jbm38
06-27-2006, 11:35 PM
During some free time I did a simple Mapquest from Caribou, ME to Miami, FL. Virginia is closest to the cetral location area according to mileage.

Looks to be A LOT of interest!! 80+ hits on this thread already and only put up at 8:30 PM... :)

davepull
06-28-2006, 12:04 AM
i think the most important thing about this race would be location. thunder road comes to mind. looks to be some what in the middle and is indoors. that is the second most important thing. it would really stink to get rained on. as for time i would say august would be perfect.

the classes look good. the only thing would be a good motor rule. we run handouts, the guys up north run handwounds


magazine coverage i would have to say rc driver or extreme.

jonnycash
06-28-2006, 12:23 AM
What about the S/K cars? I know there are quite a few in Ohio, and I would imagine they would come out of the wood-work for a big race like this.

Dale
06-28-2006, 06:35 AM
Count me and the Marshalls crew in on this!!!

Anytime72
06-28-2006, 06:42 AM
Not really true about the handwound thing. Our Series (ORL) has used handouts before so I don't think that is a problem. At least that shouldn't be a problem. I'll say the purple motors are the best for this type of race. I'm sure the 3 heads of each series can work it out. It would be nice to have an outdoor race but I'll also agree with Dave on being rained on would be bad.

Walter

RCThunder
06-28-2006, 10:13 AM
How about all meeting at the Oct race in Seaford. Looks like a big crowd coming for that one. Might be hard this year as there are so many races and so little time for most.

dave w 1
06-28-2006, 10:14 AM
Okay Thats It SomeOne Stole My Idea I Want A Check! Lol

Bill Auchterlonie
06-28-2006, 10:44 AM
How about all meeting at the Oct race in Seaford. Looks like a big crowd coming for that one. Might be hard this year as there are so many races and so little time for most.

Hmmm I dont know thats a haul for me,,, almost 30 minutes. I will say this the facility can handle the head count your talking about and is a truely great track to race on. Davepull has a very good point about mother nature. It would really stink if it got rained out no matter where it was held. But I think Seafords track is almost centerally located and worth a drive for a race of the caliber.

jbm38
06-28-2006, 10:51 AM
Definitely should be indoors then NO weather issues. Plus VA is such a nice place for a vacation.

PUF19
06-28-2006, 11:19 AM
I would almost insist on carpet/indoor for this event, should it happen.
as far as 19T I would also push for the Ultrabirds, as that is what all 3 series runs.
as far as time of year, Fall to me would be best as far as weather down south.

JeffPatch29
06-28-2006, 11:48 AM
Just my opinion would be indoor, Carpet, Late beginning of November might be a good time of year? I know the next big race at Seaford is in October, but I don't know when, I would try and give people a few weeks from that weekend, it might hurt the crown a little bit having them within a short period of time. I think Thunder Road would be an excellent choice asa venue. It's just a shame that this idea has come up a little late in the game to be run in conjunction with the Benifit race they are having down there. Another Idea might be to do something similar to what Ovalmasters is doing, and have a trophy for the Tour Director whohas the best showing. Devise some sort of point system where each tour would take the best 15 finishers from each tour and average them to determine which tour is the "Best". Just some ideas.

PUF19
06-28-2006, 11:54 AM
I belive no Tour is the best, because we all have the same intent, that is to Help the Oval track owners/racers. As this is the first season for the NEOT we are the smallest tour i'm sure.

krazie kracka54
06-28-2006, 06:05 PM
i think this might be a realy cool idea i'd be up for it


"orl racer"

amusicwiz
06-28-2006, 06:09 PM
Indoor sures seems like a good idea so there would be no rain-outs. I believe non-carpet indoors is the best approach since two of the three series run outdoors. Could be a great event and I think the three series directors can make it work. Used to race with Bill Henning at MegaTrak and at some tracks in PA including Otts little bull-ring...he's a good guy who cares about the hobby....and now that I run FOCARS I know Katfish is all for a grerat event.

PUF19
06-28-2006, 06:19 PM
NEOT runs outdoor also ( 2 of 10), but mostly we ALL run carpet...

dave w 1
06-28-2006, 06:30 PM
Indoor sures seems like a good idea so there would be no rain-outs. I believe non-carpet indoors is the best approach since two of the three series run outdoors. Could be a great event and I think the three series directors can make it work. Used to race with Bill Henning at MegaTrak and at some tracks in PA including Otts little bull-ring...he's a good guy who cares about the hobby....and now that I run FOCARS I know Katfish is all for a grerat event.



HOW ABOUGHT THE INDOOR ASPHALT TRACK IN MARYLAND ? :wave:

Bill Johnson
06-28-2006, 06:53 PM
I would think Indoor would be the best bet......

I drove 5 Hrs to go to Seaford this past weekend, only to get 2 practice runs in betwwen rain showers, and 2 half assed heats because the car was so off, packed up, and left early. Yes, I did listen to the weather report, and yes it's my fault, but I did hear alot more people were going to show, but the "Threat" of rain held them back.

It didn't matter to me, I wanted to see some friends, and meet some more people and make friends. That's what it was about for me, no matter what the cost or time....

Just a thought from someone who just went through it 4 days ago....

BILL80
06-28-2006, 07:23 PM
amusicwiz: Yeah, those were the days, huh? The ol Megatrack is still kicking, though it has passed through a couple owners. It's nothing like it was back then, not too many places can top that. But, I must say the surface now is actually better than it was and the drivers stand has a roof now. :D

Dave: I think that would be a great idea (great facility) but I don't know, I think it might be a little north of our target area. :rolleyes:

Yeah, definitely has to be indoors. I'm thinking fall, Novemberish. :thumbsup:

Anyone know of any big races to avoid? I know the Oval Masters is the beginning of Nov. at Greenville.

davepull
06-28-2006, 07:25 PM
we have a big thanksgiving race here. I would say august or sept

BILL80
06-28-2006, 08:01 PM
we have a big thanksgiving race here.
Where at & when?

davepull
06-28-2006, 08:08 PM
where jacksonville fl when thanksgiving weekend

Tom Pedano
06-28-2006, 08:53 PM
This race should be held on an asphalt track to give everybody a fair chance, since those of us in Florida don't have a carpet track to race on with-in 8 hrs drive.
The indoor asphalt track in Maryland sounds like a possiblity.

RCThunder
06-28-2006, 09:15 PM
I got a trailer and pipe on wheels - pick a spot then that will be neutral for sure.

Greg H
06-28-2006, 09:22 PM
I think this race is a great idea and I would love to see it happen. Problem is when it comes time to go not very many people show. I was at the Ovalmasters race last fall and the attendance was ok, but a little light for a race of that calibur.

The three excusses I always here are:
1) I'm only running tracks where I can tune up for SnowBirds.
2) It's too close to another race.
3) I'm spending all my money on SnowBirds.

I guess what I'm trying to say is there are already events available for everyone to attend and the response has been disappointing. Maybe we could all organize to attend one of these races.

On another note; what about having 3 events, one in each region and support the tracks that currently support our series. Maybe even have a Tri-Oval winner.

Greg

OvalGuy
06-28-2006, 09:32 PM
well i looked into it and found the orl race is november 4. the neot is racing november 19 and then there is the thanksgiving race. that leaves us the 11th and 12th for this race. i think the indoor asphalt is a great idea. great incase of rain. we dont want to rely on weather for a race of this caliber. It may favor the northern guys as far as distance traveled in car but favors southern guys as far as the rc car aspect goes. being an asphalt track helps them out. handout motors would be a great idea. hope this whole thing works out. it sounds like it could be a great event

jr81
06-28-2006, 10:37 PM
4 cell handout sk cars on the indoor asphalt track sounds good to me

BudJ63
06-29-2006, 06:51 AM
Sandhills looks pretty centrally located to all. Indoor banked carpet! Say mid October? Anything scheduled for then?


Pardon my ignorance, but what are SK cars? I have seen it mentioned a couple of times in this thread.

jonnycash
06-29-2006, 07:41 AM
Sandhills looks pretty centrally located to all. Indoor banked carpet! Say mid October? Anything scheduled for then?


Pardon my ignorance, but what are SK cars? I have seen it mentioned a couple of times in this thread.

s/k cars (http://www.rollskanardly.com)
the real ones (http://staffordmotorspeedway.com/Pages/News/WMTCTClassicEntry06.htm)

davepull
06-29-2006, 09:36 AM
ubfortunately the owner of sandhills passed away and it's future is up in the air.

Anytime72
06-29-2006, 09:47 AM
Is Sanhills even banked anymore? I though they raced the last banked race at Sanhills in the early spring?

Larry B
06-29-2006, 10:44 AM
What if this race could take place indoors on a temporary carpet track (like the bird's) in Richmond, Va. Late Sept. or Oct. ( close to Williamsburg, VA. Beach, Blue Ridge Mt's) Good Fall season. With Some help from someone that has done this, I know of several good places ( RIR comes to mind amd would be just after the last race for the chase). By-the-way, this could held in the summer because the facilities have a/c.

amusicwiz
06-29-2006, 11:11 AM
Greg H? is that Greg Hartman? This thread is beginning to look like old home week...for PA racers. Bob Dingley here.

OvalGuy
06-29-2006, 11:17 AM
see this is the problem already. nobody wants to agree on a track. we need to take this one step at a time. we need to vote on track surface. state track is located and time of year. then we can vote on what track to go to

PUF19
06-29-2006, 11:53 AM
we are just getting Idea's at this time. the 3 heads of the series will make the final call im sure. its just nice to see what everyone thinks...

dave w 1
06-29-2006, 12:16 PM
Greg H? is that Greg Hartman? This thread is beginning to look like old home week...for PA racers. Bob Dingley here.




HEY BOB!!!! :thumbsup:

Greg H
06-29-2006, 12:28 PM
Greg H? is that Greg Hartman? This thread is beginning to look like old home week...for PA racers. Bob Dingley here.
Hi Bob, You are correct, that's me.

You mentioned Ott's recently in a post. I loved that track. Those were the good old days!

amusicwiz
06-29-2006, 02:20 PM
I really hope this Tri-Series race becomes a reality...would be great to run with you guys again. The FOCAR series here in FL is going great...we run the 4th race of the series next weekend (8th) in Daytona. We've been driving all over the state.

Next time I come up to PA to visit my kids maybe I'll bring the RC stuff and check to see what's happening. What did happen to the shop and track that was in the Flea Market in 422? That's where I saw you last running the carpet there.

Anytime72
06-29-2006, 03:39 PM
A temp track would be neutral for everyone. I'm sure we can wheel out the 2006 snowbirds carpet and put it to some good use. It's not such a far fetched idea. Again, these are just ideas. I'm glad to see people are actually thinking about it. So let's keep it positive. I'm sure the heads of each series can digest everything and come up with something.

The Jet
06-29-2006, 04:07 PM
ok this is in it's infancy stages and may never get any further than this thread.

but i think with a little help we could have one heck of a nice oval race!

we will need a track that is located central to the racers.
we need a track that can support up to 200 racers (racers not entries)
we need sponsors
a list of hotels (cheap)
a simple set of rules
classes

i was thinking:
4300
19 turn
stock
truck
open mod
12th scale 19 turn

the first place trophy needs to knock your socks off!
we need to look at what makes coopers a great event.
magazine coverage
live race results (a must)
a race date that doesn't step on toes
lot's of manufacturer support

do we need novice classes?

OVALMASTERS in November.
Why not just go there???

Al Spina Fan
06-29-2006, 04:54 PM
OVALMASTERS in November.
Why not just go there???

Brilliant, Absolutely Brilliant. Let the Oval Masters Classes decide the classes for the race and have a seperate cup for the highest placing racer for each common class. Each "Qualifying" racer who is challenging for the cup must have raced at least once in one of the series during 2006.

I would like to volunteer to be Kenny's coffee gopher......lol!

Bill Auchterlonie
06-29-2006, 07:26 PM
I agree, we should try to support the big races as they were designed for the very reason this thread was started. That race is right under our noses and maybe we should all think about going as they have all the details already worked out.

katf1sh
06-29-2006, 08:11 PM
i think alot of us are going to try and attend the seaford october race.
coming back up again in november would be like pulling teeth for alot of us.
even i like the month of november and i love memorial day weekend as well. i know i don't want to step on anyone's toes that has a race planned this year or next.

using someone else's race is a nice idea we would let them do all the footwork for us,lol. but we would still have to buy a few things for the series racers who finish up front. who will pay for these things? we can't take money away from the track owner.

thier are alot of good ideas being thrown around including the jets and boylans.

just reading all of this makes me appreciate what mike,scotty and mr. bill go through each and every year.the idea is good but the logistics are going to be difficult.

Larry B
06-29-2006, 09:22 PM
Are you aware that Mike Russell has moved the Ovalmaster race to Greeneville, Tn for this year (I think there may be some uncertainty about what will happen to the track with the loss of Fabio). I too agree that this type of race should help support an existing event and if Mike can keep the Ovalmasters going (and hopefully at the Sandhills facility with banking) it would be a good way to have a larger event with Manufacture support and competition. This could be one way to help keep one of the best banked ovals in the US running.

bologna
06-29-2006, 09:35 PM
orl race 10 is the same weekend as the oval masters and i know where ill be in philly not 832 miles away in tn