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Belf28 05-28-2006, 10:53 AM heres a little project im working on with help from Lino Brosco (owner of HyperForm)
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=371852&d=1148826895
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=371851&d=1148826895
jbrooks39 05-28-2006, 11:40 AM Looks like a good start.
You may want to consult the QSAC rule book if you intend to race it in sanctioned events.
I would be very curious to see more detailed shots of the work in progress if you would be willing to share them (higher resolution too. :).
Thanks,
JB
Belf28 05-28-2006, 12:45 PM i will be taking more pics next week. i have read the qsac rules think we conform so far. i will work on a better camera :wave:
fastforward 05-28-2006, 02:40 PM jamie, that looks cool. your brother was just telling me about that.figured i'd take a look.wow.
HyperformRacing 05-28-2006, 05:06 PM sweet :cool:
shrabber 05-28-2006, 05:21 PM I have a pet squirrel that would love to drive it but you will need to provide a helmet for Him thanks Tim
mcRacing 05-29-2006, 10:59 AM hey i see my old parts.... looks good Jamie
skipster 05-29-2006, 11:42 AM looks great! if you need a source for cnc work let me know.you can e-mail me at bikedreamer1@aol.com thanks,shawn
rickster58 05-29-2006, 12:17 PM Looks great guys!
omnis85 05-29-2006, 12:27 PM always wanted a 1/4, looks real
burbs 05-29-2006, 12:38 PM sweet :cool:
Is that car going to turn both ways??? I figured with Lino's help he may try to get ya to road course it ... J/K
Whats up Lino..:dude:
HyperformRacing 05-29-2006, 06:43 PM What's up Mike! You racing again yet? :tongue:
we'll try and turn it right to see what happens... :thumbsup:
burbs 05-30-2006, 03:32 PM What's up Mike! You racing again yet? :tongue:
we'll try and turn it right to see what happens... :thumbsup:
It has been reported locally, that someone has seen me with some touring car stuff.. Now the siteing has not been confirmed, But i am on my way down to trackside to check on my New paint for my mazda 6 body..:devil: Thurs was my b-day and my wife gave me the r/c hookup..:hat:
shrabber 05-30-2006, 05:24 PM Burbs no taxi cabs you need to turn left only
HyperformRacing 05-31-2006, 12:20 AM Cause taxi cabs got 6-cell rip... ;)
Funny though Mike cause I've been running oval the past few weeks...
c barsalow 06-02-2006, 01:57 PM Niceness! It looks a little like my late model....
Belf28 06-02-2006, 02:31 PM yeah ive had a few prostocks im my day (portcity Dillion Howe juniorHanley Steve levitt cars)
where do you race... in vermont ?
Belf28 06-02-2006, 03:32 PM http://forum.racesimcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=373065&d=1149278358
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=373051&d=1149275585
sorry the rear view pic is blurry
c barsalow 06-02-2006, 06:13 PM I used to race ACT up here. I have spent the last couple seasons off saving to buy a house which I did this past fall. Mostly raced in New York (Airborne). I have Lefthander cars now myself...I started with a Howe..... I would kill to have a JR car ;)
Tim Mc 06-02-2006, 10:36 PM The chassis looks great. I'm intrested in the weight of the chassis as it sits now. The rigid rear bumper may cause some problems if you decide to race it (no give). Nevertheless, it looks like the real thing!! :) Great work!
Belf28 06-02-2006, 11:28 PM the car wieghts 23 pounds as it sits(i had the front shocks and front servos in it when i wieght it)
the rear bumper extends 2" past what you are seeing in the pic.
the front bumper extends 3" past whats seen in the pic also.
the side nerf bars will be made out of 60 thousands aluminum sheet
with a few bends in the sheet metal brake and have 2 dzus buttons
on each side holding the body on :thumbsup:
basically alls thats left is the body the reciever pack/6 cell & the reciever & gas tank and the front sway bar.the qsac rule is 30 pounds race ready and 55%/45% left to right side rule
Tim Mc 06-04-2006, 02:01 PM It's nice to see a realistic chassis being built. I own 4 WCM & 1 Lightning. None favor a real stock car cage, but performance is the reason behind their design. Gram Cracker cars are the sweetest looking chassis out there, but are hard to come by.
Good luck and keep posting updated pics!
Fasthobbys1 06-05-2006, 01:53 PM Hi Jamie the car looks awsome but Newera models did that chassis before and it looks great but does not handle as good as the other brands without the full cage http://www.neweramodels.com/item.cgi?part_id=1432
Belf28 06-05-2006, 02:54 PM im aware that the cars of chioce look like they were built in 2 hours!
the diffrence here is..they were rc car guys building rc cars.
im a real race car builder Building a rc car ( been building real cars 30 plus years )
ive change my design since those pics were taken & im now using a lower strut type design front suspention like a howe type super late model uses.
the weight rule is the same for every 1 and the 3/8 tubing weights nothing! so if ya think it might be the top heavy issue..... i dont think so handeling is all in the front end design . having the abilty to change roll centers and bump steer ect...
ps. ive searched the web doing my home work and the nicest car out there is a Gram Cracker chassis not much different than what ive built here
Tim Mc 06-05-2006, 07:27 PM ps. ive searched the web doing my home work and the nicest car out there is a Gram Cracker chassis not much different than what ive built here
I would have to agree with you. If it handles like a cracker...you will be tough to beat. :) Keep up the good work and post more pics as you complete it!
HyperformRacing 06-05-2006, 07:32 PM anybody got a link so i can look at this gram cracker chassis?
Tim Mc 06-06-2006, 12:01 AM http://qsac.org/gallery/albums/2004nats/RICKY_MCSWAIN.jpg
Older pic
HyperformRacing 06-06-2006, 01:00 AM i dig it
like previously mentioned, it's all about how they perform on the track...
Jamie's will be sweet.
Belf28 06-06-2006, 02:36 PM heres a few pics of the new front clip design/strut style front lower a-arms
bud3738 06-06-2006, 03:05 PM is hypoform going to offer a 1/4 scale car out there...or is this just a custom job being put together.....interested what the price would be.....
is hypoform going to offer a 1/4 scale car out there...or is this just a custom job being put together.....interested what the price would be.....
Looks cool!!!
I'm interested in what the weights going to be... :)
Belf28 06-06-2006, 04:00 PM if theres a market for these cars ...and they prove to be the car of choice you bet we will build and market them ! as far as price that is still to be configured. these cars are pretty labor intence .
but this is a prototype . once i get it right i can jig build them and cut down on some labor :tongue:
ovalrc 06-06-2006, 04:04 PM Looks cool Jaime, I'll have to see it run when it's completed
JBRCells 06-06-2006, 04:17 PM Lino from Hyperform is from the next town over we work with him as he works with us.......We have been friends with him for a longtime......Jamie is the brains and fabricator of the operation.....Lino and I just want the damn thing done so we can rip it up........ Jamie is my older brother.....
JBRCells 06-06-2006, 04:20 PM Jamie also built this car that I currently run..... http://www.ismasupers.com/Roster%20Pages/8-Belfiore.htm he is a short video....Im not to concerned that it will handle
http://www.ladderol.com/JB's%20OHW.wmv
HyperformRacing 06-06-2006, 04:37 PM Yeah this is Jamie's baby, I just hold tubing while he welds...
Tim Mc 06-06-2006, 11:11 PM Here is another pic of an original master piece....
Belf28 06-09-2006, 03:21 PM Heres a pic of my new Strut type front suspension ive been working on the last few days
i used WCM upper A-arms and thier new steering rack assembly.
the caster blocks are sloted and slide foward and back to achieve simple caster adjustments. the way thier mounted to the chassis they can be spaced inward and you can run longer upper A-arms if desired to fine tune camber gain
the rack is mounted vertically so bump steer is tottaly adjustable.
will keep you updated in the next few days with more pics as i will be changing the rear of the car a little :)
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=374706&d=1149883819
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=374707&d=1149883819
mcRacing 06-09-2006, 04:58 PM i like it jamie looks real good
Tim Mc 06-09-2006, 11:28 PM Jamie,
What track/tracks will you be running/testing the chassis on?
Belf28 06-10-2006, 12:31 AM 106racepark in pembroke new hampshire is my 1st stop and possably bolder city in las vegas
if i dont have it done for june 25th race in pembroke i have a 2002 WCM (hoop car) i just picked up a few days ago
Tim Mc 06-10-2006, 09:15 AM We have a racer running the same WCM chassis at LPR and he is having good luck with it. My son and I both have 2003 WCM cars. We have a couple older WCM's for backups.
I have to say that you do great work. A full caged chassis is rare these days. It really brings a realism look to the car. This is something that needs to come back to 1/4 scale! Race driver figures in the cars & window nets made up of different color shoestrings use to be the norm. I don't think it will ever come back due to the expense and time consuming labor it takes to create such a car, but it never hurts to dream :)
Keep us posted on the progress.
Tim
Belf28 06-10-2006, 12:39 PM thanks for the kind words tim ... do you have a link to your track you race at.
heres a pic of pembroke nh track (106racepark) http://www.106racepark.com/Route106RaceParkPavedTrack
Tim Mc 06-10-2006, 01:16 PM thanks for the kind words tim ... do you have a link to your track you race at.
heres a pic of pembroke nh track (106racepark) http://www.106racepark.com/Route106RaceParkPavedTrack
Here is a link to the LPR web site http://lagoonparkraceway.com/
c barsalow 06-12-2006, 05:50 PM I love your anti-dive adjustment in the strut arm! At least that's what I think I saw!
I want one!
Belf28 06-12-2006, 09:24 PM yeah the lower strut diag has a 3/8 slot just like the real deal :) heres a few pics of my prostocks cars we ran oxford plains mostly and some P.A.S.S. shows
Belf28 06-12-2006, 09:29 PM thanks for the link tim
HyperformRacing 06-14-2006, 12:59 AM any pics from today?
Belf28 06-14-2006, 01:43 AM no.. i will try to get some tomorow just finishing the rear of the car up
c barsalow 06-14-2006, 06:12 PM We just pulled our car off the chassis dyno a few minutes ago. Would you believe we freed up 10 hp with a different airbox configuration? Then we tweaked the box and freed up another 2....
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