Paul.........I wanted to implement it at the first race but the idea was met with quite a bit of resistance from my partner. :) I look at it like you do that this way it will be the same for everyone and if you aren't on the line, you don't race that heat or main. I was figuring 5 minute "breaks" (10-15 minutes between 1st and 2nd qualifying rounds, qualifying rounds/mains) as this should give more than enough time to get a transponder from someone else, get it in, and get on the line. I'd like to be able to set up the races like you say but if it is possible I haven't figured out how yet. I've tried in the past but haven't come across a way to do it. It's funny though that even when some people CAN go get a transponder when no one is using theirs they still don't till right before they are up! I know how people feel and want to do it but maybe some of you guys should point the hints toward my partner and convince her. :)

I imagine some of the "chatter" was pointed toward how bored they were with the 1/12 scale cars too huh? If you say yes to that one I bet I could name a couple that were talking about that one. :lol:

Actually I dont recall anything said about the 1/12th scale cars...but now that you mention that they are boring......nevermind! LOL!!

I'll mention it at the next drivers meeting! LOL!!

what makes the 1/12 scale cars boring? lol just curious

Nothing...just the fact that theres only 2 of them.

8 minutes is just to long for most people to watch two cars run on a track without actually being behind the wheel I think. :)

When we gonna see you, Nic, and Angie Bruce?

wow, are all heats 8 minutes or just the 1/12? well, my neon is in the shop and has been there for 3 weeks now :mad: and the ram is also in the shop :mad: , so we are just waiting on them lol i really wanted to make if for the opening, cause i seen you had a real good tunr out, but we will try to be there as soon as we can, if the car or truck get done by sunday, we should be there then ;) if not, it should be soon

1/12 scales are the only class running 8 minutes. TC has gone to 5 minutes now but we are keeping the oval classes at 4.

Ya know Bruce, neon, ram.............I see a Dodge/shop pattern forming here. :lol: They make a cure for that, it's called C-H-E-V-R-O-L-E-T! :thumbsup:

Only two less people this week than last so the season is starting out pretty well. Seemed like the track was a little "smoother" this week and Johna is soaking it down again today to see if that will help it out any. Some pretty fast racing went on and we had a couple new track records. Records fell in the 1/12 scale class as well as the TC mod class.

Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - NOVEMBER 10, 2002

-- 1/12 scale pancar - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 71 8:03.42 Justin Johnson 12 13.81
2 3 70 8:01.92 Tom Himes 14 13.66
3 2 55 8:01.83 Dean Hushon 30 10.74
4 4 42 5:16.08 Dennis Himes 38 12.50

-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 32 5:07.91 Kim Fortner 19 9.77
2 1 30 5:07.70 Don Weimer 6 9.17
3 5 28 5:01.74 Rick Morgan 33 8.73
4 0 28 5:03.18 Chris Burrows 22 8.68
5 3 28 5:08.58 Joy Fortner 21 8.53
6 4 27 5:09.21 John Rezzelle 26 8.21
7 7 22 5:10.93 Johna Simar 35 6.65
8 6 19 5:06.24 Shane Hushon 27 5.83
9 8 11 3:22.08 Donny Hushon 28 5.12
10 9 5 2:15.26 Barb Morgan 34 3.47

-- Modified touring car - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 45 5:06.20 Tom Himes 15 13.82
2 2 28 3:10.05 Dennis Himes 37 13.86
-- 1 --- DNS --- Justin Johnson 11 0.00

-- Production - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 51 4:02.82 Tim Mackey 31 14.03
2 7 48 4:04.63 Bryan Simar 4 13.11
3 9 47 4:02.30 Jahred Smith 2 12.96
4 1 9 0:52.08 Randy Coon 1 11.54

-- Production - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 45 4:05.92 Cody Britton 10 12.22
2 3 32 4:01.08 Jerry Burrows 24 8.86
3 2 1 0:05.28 Cody Gideon 9 12.64

-- Stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 62 4:02.74 Janice Himes 17 17.06
2 7 58 4:02.09 Johna Simar 36 16.00
3 1 57 4:00.86 Dean Hushon 29 15.81

-- Stock truck - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 60 4:02.09 Darin Kisko 5 16.55
2 0 54 4:02.39 Mike Raszmann 13 14.88
3 2 13 1:07.95 Joy Fortner 20 12.78

-- Pro stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 64 4:00.54 Tom Himes 16 17.77
2 0 64 4:03.25 Adam Hamilton 3 17.58
3 2 63 4:03.04 Kim Fortner 18 17.32
4 4 59 4:03.85 John Rezzelle 25 16.16
5 1 55 4:02.70 Don Weimer 7 15.14

-- 2 WD stock - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 5 59 4:03.75 Rick Morgan 32 16.17
2 2 53 4:03.60 Chris Burrows 23 14.53
3 1 5 0:21.59 Don Weimer 8 15.46

Another MARVELOUS turnout of racers again this week. As a matter of fact it is the best turnout we've ever had with an amazing 32 racers. This may not seem like a lot to some but if you've ever seen the pit space available to us you'd know how good this is! Johna shampooed the carpet again and it seems to have helped it immensely! The records should start falling now boy. :) We had three new track records this week. Dennis Himes broke his own record in the Modified touring car class, Kim Fortner lowered his time in the BuRP class by just .02 but it's still faster, and Courtney Morse is the new Pro stock truck class record holder. Heres hoping once the points start that we'll keep these tremendous crowds coming!

Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - NOVEMBER 17, 2002

-- 1/12 scale pancar - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 7 63 8:03.54 Donny Hushon 18 12.25
2 2 62 8:05.33 Dean Hushon 42 12.01
3 1 59 8:05.84 Jamie Himes 33 11.42
4 8 55 8:04.27 Shane Hushon 16 10.68

-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 4 31 5:03.68 Chris Burrows 30 9.60
2 8 29 5:06.89 Kim Fortner 38 8.89
3 5 28 5:08.17 Rick Morgan 3 8.54
4 3 27 5:01.03 Steve Tarbox 26 8.43
5 6 26 5:01.82 Joy Fortner 36 8.10
6 1 24 5:00.68 Shane Hushon 17 7.51
7 7 22 5:00.53 Johna Simar 6 6.88
8 9 18 5:01.60 Barb Morgan 4 5.61
9 2 12 3:14.28 Ben McCracken 25 5.81
-- 0 --- DNS --- Dean Hushon 43 0.00

-- Modified touring car - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 48 5:01.22 Dennis Himes 29 14.99
2 1 47 5:02.65 Tom Himes 20 14.61

-- Production - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 7 52 4:02.01 Bryan Simar 14 14.35
2 9 50 4:00.79 Jahred Smith 13 13.87
3 1 46 4:03.03 Randy Coon 1 12.64
4 3 43 4:00.98 Laura Burrows 22 11.92
5 5 23 1:59.55 Tim Mackey 40 12.85

-- Production - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 4 37 4:01.65 Cody Gideon 39 10.23
2 3 37 4:02.35 Dustin Himes 34 10.20
3 1 34 4:12.82 Jerry Burrows 23 8.98
4 2 31 4:02.65 Brent Harris 28 8.53
5 5 2 0:23.56 Gage Campbell 7 5.67

-- Stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 62 4:00.90 Darin Kisko 15 17.19
2 1 62 4:03.22 Janice Himes 19 17.03
3 7 60 4:01.32 Johna Simar 5 16.61
4 0 54 4:00.54 Joy Fortner 35 15.00

-- Pro stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 66 4:02.82 Courtney Morse 45 18.16
2 0 62 4:00.54 Adam Hamilton 9 17.22
3 2 62 4:00.92 Tom Himes 32 17.19
4 3 59 4:03.36 Kim Fortner 37 16.19

-- Pro stock truck - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 9 62 4:00.90 Jason Okerlund 11 17.19
2 2 60 4:01.87 Curtney Morse Jr 44 16.57
3 1 54 4:01.72 Bob Pack 27 14.92

-- 2 WD stock - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 5 55 4:02.20 Rick Morgan 2 15.17
2 2 48 4:01.84 Steve Tarbox 24 13.26
3 1 48 4:03.38 Chris Burrows 21 13.17
4 4 1 0:05.09 Greg Eckl 8 13.11

-- Modified truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 0 61 4:02.60 Adam Hamilton 10 16.80
2 1 58 4:01.80 Courtney Morse 46 16.02
3 9 19 1:39.34 Jason Okerlund 12 12.77

-- 1/12 scale mod - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 72 8:00.87 Justin Johnson 41 14.08
2 1 11 1:19.62 Tom Himes 31 12.99

Not that it appears as though anyone is still looking at the thread here but here are the results of our races this week. We had another three track record this week with Courtney Morse lowering his time in Pro Stock truck, Tom Himes beating his brother Dennis' record in Modified TC, and Kim Fortner once again breaking his own record in the BuRP class. Turnout continues to be good and I thank everyone that keeps showing up.

Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - NOVEMBER 24, 2002

-- 1/12 scale pancar - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 7 66 8:05.74 Donny Hushon 8 12.78
2 2 64 8:06.59 Marcella Pritchard 6 12.37
3 3 62 8:02.05 Jamie Himes 25 12.10
4 1 8 1:11.78 Dean Hushon 2 10.48
5 8 3 0:27.57 Shane Hushon 35 10.23

-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 31 5:04.82 Kim Fortner 28 9.56
2 1 30 5:05.75 Don Weimer 11 9.23
3 2 29 5:09.06 Shane Hushon 36 8.82
4 5 29 5:11.60 Rick Morgan 15 8.75
5 7 24 5:02.67 Johna Simar 19 7.46
6 9 20 5:13.84 Barb Morgan 16 5.99
-- 0 --- DNS --- John Rezzelle 26 0.00

-- Modified touring car - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 47 5:00.63 Justin Johnson 4 14.70
2 2 39 4:28.48 Tom Himes 21 13.66

-- Production - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 7 46 4:03.11 Bryan Simar 10 12.64
2 1 45 4:04.21 Randy Coon 1 12.31
3 2 40 4:01.69 Gage Campbell 3 11.05
4 3 35 4:03.52 Jerry Burrows 17 9.60
-- 6 --- DNS --- Cody Britton 37 0.00

-- Stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 60 4:01.47 Darin Kisko 9 16.60
2 2 59 4:02.35 Janice Himes 24 16.26
3 7 51 4:00.54 Johna Simar 18 14.16
4 0 48 4:03.53 Mike Raszmann 32 13.16

-- Pro stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 66 4:01.68 Tom Himes 23 18.24
2 1 66 4:02.19 Courtney Morse 31 18.20
3 0 64 4:00.80 Adam Hamilton 34 17.75
4 9 63 4:03.08 Jason Okerlund 33 17.31

-- Pro stock truck - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 62 4:02.93 Don Weimer 12 17.05
2 3 61 4:01.52 Courtney Morse Jr. 29 16.87
3 0 57 3:57.05 John Rezzelle 27 16.06

-- 2 WD stock - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 62 4:02.57 Chris Burrows 20 17.07
2 8 62 4:02.89 Kim Fortner 30 17.05
3 1 61 4:02.27 Don Weimer 13 16.82

-- 2 WD stock - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 4 51 4:00.65 Greg Eckl 7 14.16
2 5 51 4:01.03 Rick Morgan 14 14.13
3 0 45 4:04.11 Shane Hunt 38 12.31

-- 1/12 scale mod - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 72 8:00.61 Tom Himes 22 14.09
2 1 72 8:01.20 Justin Johnson 5 14.07

i'm still looking ric :D i think we will all be there for next sundays racing, i'll let you know for sure, so you can bring your motor lathe, thanks, scooby :wave: :thumbsup:

Bruce, I'm keeping my lathe at the track so just let me know if you're coming so I can get a pack charged to power it is all. You guys shirts are also here. Johna picked them up Friday so whenever you can make it down to get them they are here.

...and a few thoughts.

I believe the "no return" rule might be backwards. Currently, durring the qualifiers, if you brake or have a problem that requires you to "pull off", you are permited to return to the race under a certain amount of time. And in the mains, if you "pull off", you are not permited to return at all. As stated before, I believe this should be just the reverse. As far a qualifiers, you can always fall back on another qualifier for your best time. So if you have problems in the first, you'll have another shot in the second and vice versa. When it comes to the main, every racer is going for broke. Quite literally in most cases. The running order can change quite a bit. Take last weeks 2wd class as a case in point. Durring a main, say, 20 laps in, you pop a link and your dog bone disconnects. You'd have to pull off the track. 10 laps later the leader brakes a front arm. If you could re-enter the race, you could take over the race, you've only missed 5 laps fixing that link, and improve your overall finishing position if not win that race. With qualifiers, we may be racing the clock, but it's in the mains where we're racing each other for position, points, and a racer buck. If we're going to keep the "no return durring the mains rule", I wanna see the black flag given to the guy that took me out.

Thoughts?

Donalbain

How about the black flag for the guy that threw his car back out there after being off for ten laps and takes the leader out that has been out there for the whole race? Maybe it was even on purpose? I can see your point and I would have rather just kept it the way we had it, your off the track, your done.......qualifier OR main but I buckled to my partner and said we could try it for just the mains. Personnally, maybe it's just me, but I just figure it's common courtesy to remain off the track if something happens to my car. No matter how we have it some people aren't going to agree. Just my .02 :)

A little smaller crowd this week for our first week of points racing but great racing all around anyway. Track seemed to be a little slower with the colder weather too.

Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - DECEMBER 1, 2002

-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 31 5:04.69 Don Weimer 20 9.57
2 8 31 5:07.49 Kim Fortner 9 9.48
3 2 29 5:08.91 Chris Burrows 16 8.83
4 5 29 5:10.82 Rick Morgan 22 8.77
5 7 27 5:07.18 Johna Simar 25 8.27
6 9 26 5:00.53 Joy Fortner 11 8.13
7 4 21 5:10.67 Barb Morgan 23 6.36


Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - DECEMBER 1, 2002

-- Production - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 4 52 4:04.40 Cody Gideon 3 14.21
2 9 29 2:30.43 Jahred Smith 7 12.88
3 7 6 0:31.51 Bryan Simar 1 12.72
4 2 4 0:21.18 Randy Coon 2 12.61

-- Production - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 9 45 4:02.97 Cody Britton 4 12.37
2 2 42 4:02.48 Gage Campbell 12 11.57
3 4 42 4:04.98 Jim Cook 19 11.45
4 3 36 4:04.01 Laura Burrows 17 9.85

-- Stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 60 4:03.16 Darin Kisko 18 16.48
2 9 52 4:00.54 Joy Fortner 10 14.44
3 2 49 4:03.46 Randy Green 6 13.44
4 7 13 1:09.39 Johna Simar 24 12.51

-- Pro stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 0 66 4:02.96 Adam Hamilton 27 18.15
2 2 63 4:02.72 Don Weimer 13 17.34
3 9 7 0:34.69 Jason Okerlund 26 13.47

-- 2 WD stock - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 62 4:02.83 Kim Fortner 8 17.05
2 2 60 4:02.64 Don Weimer 14 16.52
3 5 59 4:03.78 Rick Morgan 21 16.17

-- 2 WD stock - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 58 4:00.54 Chris Burrows 15 16.11
2 3 50 4:04.21 Tim Mackey 28 13.68
3 4 42 4:03.31 Randy Green 5 11.53

On a side note now. We are going to try having practices each week on Tuesday. We will begin this week and times will be from 4-7 PM. I say we are going to "try" this because if I'm only getting 3-5 people show up each week it's not going to be worth it to me to go down there. In other words if you want it to continue, show up and have some fun. :)

I didn't know you guys were still talking here.....I don't get out much :rolleyes:

Good to see lots of racers showing up - hope it stays that way. 35 - 40 racers is a house full in that building though and it makes for a long day of racing. I'm sure we'll get faster as the season goes on, and I think the 2 minute rule will help alot. The biggest slow down is the exchange of transponders. Especially when people stay out on the track after their race for some hot laps. If you need their transponder for your race you have to wait. It's pretty much the same people every time. Too bad we can't split up the transponders so the next heat could be getting ready and be "on deck" the race before. I think thats how alot of other tracks do it. That would definately speed things along....Then there's always the guy (me) that's always B.S.ing or working on someone else's car, and isn't ready to race. The 2 minute rule will help keep them alert. I know noone wants to be a scrooge about it, but noone wants to spend 5-6 hours to race for 15 minutes total either. It's a common problem at all tracks and it's pretty much up to the race director to keep things moving. Another time consuming thing is switching the track from oval to onroad. Johna does a great job, but its so much faster if we all help. Have you ever seen any of the 1/12 scale or touring drivers out there helping to set up the course that theywant to race on? :confused:

Donalbains logic on the "no return rule" makes sense to me. The first 2 heats are qualifiers, the third one is "The race". I have to agree with Ovalman too, though. If the corner marshall can't pop a ball back on or something real simple & quick like that, then take it off and fix it for the next race. It was pretty cool seeing Bryan's truck limp across the line on 3 wheels, though!

Donalbain: What did I miss in 2wd that week? Is that the week it was Chris,me, & you?

Practice nite sounds neat, hope people take advantage of it. It could be a ball!

Might even have to clean up Maxx! It smells like an elephant......

:lol:

Well guy's, what do you think of my 1st attempt at racing? I think I did somewhat decent.

Jim: good to see you out there knocking it out at last. I dunno how you could stand to just watch for so long. Not as easy as it looks, huh? I'd say you did pretty darn good for your first race! How was the damage? You're gonna make Randy's life miserable, aren't you?
:eek:

Well, acutally, I was enjoying working on them and pick them apart to learn what would and wouldn't work, as Darin is driving. I figured Darin's starting to pick up on the maintenance end, so maybe I'd give it a shot.

I split the front bulkhead hinge, the phenomenal trait of the XXT's. Had a decent spare, but when we replaced it I lost the hinge pin for the bottom, in my green case. We improvised to make it thru the main with a shorter pin. When we got home I found it, cleaned the truck all up. I think Darin musta took it out on the road as it had some dirt in it. BTW - That was the 1st truck Darin started out with 5 years ago. I figured I would take it out of mothballs.

Well, I don't plan on messing with Randy at first, as I'm only using 3/4 throttle and some older packs till I get a bit more used to it. Possibly in a few weeks I might shake him up and start using full bore with the greenmeany batterys.



:devil:

Originally posted by k1m
You're gonna make Randy's life miserable, aren't you?
:eek:
BTW - Just as a second thought after I had already posted, this is going to seem strange, but Randy wants to race in the same heats as me. :rolleyes:

Was pretty nice to see another new face in the Production class this year. Seems that's about the biggest class this year. You won't have to worry about Randy this week unless his parts come. He came down tonight at practice and showed me the busted up rear hub he had after last week. :) Seems it's also one of the parts that won't interchange with Losi on that Evader. :(

Originally posted by OvalmanPA
Was pretty nice to see another new face in the Production class this year. Seems that's about the biggest class this year. You won't have to worry about Randy this week unless his parts come. He came down tonight at practice and showed me the busted up rear hub he had after last week. :) Seems it's also one of the parts that won't interchange with Losi on that Evader. :(


Yeah, I seen the hub. Sheared it right off of the top of the hub where the tie rod connects.

I'm thinking that the rear hub will transfer from a team associated, but he would need to modify a bit. I could be all wet.

I'm not really racing against anyone, just trying to have a little fun. I guess from what I noticed on the track Sun., I'm more racing against myself as I'm seeing what I can make the truck do on the track.

With the Tues. practices, I work nights so you probably won't see me at any of Tues. meetings

The size and shape are almost identical but unfortunately the bearings must be a different size or even metric. :(

I believe you are right, but if a guy was to shim the bearings with lets say electrical tape, he may be able to make the bearings fit, long enough for the part to come in.

The front wheels on the XXT that I ran last week were for a HPI. I took a bic pen, slivered off of the end and slipped the bearing in it, then slipped the whole assembly into the wheel. It seemed to work as you seen on the track.

You may want to suggest it to Randy, as I usually don't talk to him till race day, as he's on days and I'm on nights.

"Huked on cobble jobs.....It werkd for me":lol:

Hehe, only problem with that theory is the Evader bearings are bigger than the Losi. :)

Hmmmmm, I wonder if a guy could dremel out the hole a bit to make the bearing fit. Realizing that you could not probably get it perfectly centered, but if his parts don't come, it may enable him to make sundays race. Just a thought.

BTW - Indivdual Cell Shrink Wrap, the ones for each cell, and some battery bars silver ones. Do you got any of these?

We have Deans Pro Bars (good bars) but no shrink wrap. Of course if you wanna buy a new pack of cells, they come with shrink. :)

Originally posted by OvalmanPA
We have Deans Pro Bars (good bars) but no shrink wrap. Of course if you wanna buy a new pack of cells, they come with shrink. :)


How many bars come in a package...10 or more? I need enough to do 2 packs. I'll have to see if I can come across the shrink wrap somewhere. You have the battery bars at the track? I'll have Darin pick them up as Sun. I won't be there as I need to take Cory to Company Kids Christmas party on Sunday.

10 bars per package and yes we do have some at the track.

Darin will be picking up a package Sunday....thanks

Another great turnout of racers showed up for our second week of points racing. We had a couple new records with Janice Himes lowering her time in the Stock truck class and Justin Johnson beating his previous record in the 1/12 scale class by 6 laps!

Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - DECEMBER 8, 2002

-- 1/12 scale pancar - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 77 8:00.54 Justin Johnson 46 15.07
2 6 73 8:03.52 Tom Himes 26 14.20
3 2 72 8:01.13 Dennis Himes 34 14.08

-- 1/12 scale pancar - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 7 65 8:00.54 Donny Hushon 48 12.72
2 2 65 8:00.56 Dean Hushon 21 12.72
3 8 61 8:03.38 Shane Hushon 20 11.87

-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 5 30 5:08.30 Rick Morgan 30 9.15
2 7 29 5:00.66 Johna Simar 33 9.07
3 6 21 5:03.39 Barb Morgan 31 6.51
-- 4 --- DNS --- Shane Hushon 19 0.00
-- 9 --- DNS --- Joy Fortner 9 0.00
-- 2 --- DNS --- Chris Burrows 4 0.00
-- 3 --- DNS --- Don Weimer 38 0.00
-- 8 --- DNS --- Kim Fortenr 7 0.00
-- 0 --- DNS --- John Rezzelle 17 0.00

-- Modified touring car - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 46 5:06.11 Justin Johnson 47 14.13
2 6 44 5:01.47 Tom Himes 27 13.73
3 2 19 2:08.15 Dennis Himes 35 13.94

-- Production - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 7 49 4:00.84 Bryan Simar 24 13.59
2 9 49 4:01.54 Jahred Smith 2 13.55
3 1 46 4:00.54 Randy Coon 1 12.77
4 2 39 4:09.58 Cody Britton 41 10.44

-- Production - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 38 4:04.84 Brent Harris 18 10.37
2 4 37 4:07.50 Jerry Burrows 22 9.98
-- 2 --- DNS --- Gage Campbell 15 0.00

-- Stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 64 4:01.72 Janice Himes 25 17.69
2 7 63 4:02.09 Johna Simar 32 17.38
3 2 63 4:03.41 Darin Kisko 5 17.29
4 9 51 4:00.54 Joy Fortner 8 14.16
5 4 8 0:47.04 Randy Green 37 11.36

-- Pro stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 0 65 4:00.54 Adam Hamilton 44 18.05
2 6 65 4:00.95 Tom Himes 28 18.02
3 2 57 4:02.26 Courtney Morse 11 15.72
4 9 48 3:14.55 Jason Okerlund 43 16.48

-- Pro stock truck - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 4 63 4:00.79 Courtney Morse Jr. 14 17.48
2 3 63 4:01.30 Don Weimer 39 17.44
-- 2 --- DNS --- Bob Pack 10 0.00

-- 2 WD stock - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 65 4:00.54 Courtney Morse 12 18.05
2 5 61 4:02.12 Rick Morgan 29 16.83
3 4 61 4:02.90 Chris Burrows 3 16.77
4 8 59 4:00.57 Kim Fortner 6 16.38
5 3 8 0:39.81 Don Weimer 40 13.42

-- 2 WD stock - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 4 57 4:04.04 Tim Mackey 42 15.60
2 3 56 4:00.80 Greg Eckl 23 15.53
3 2 56 4:03.44 Randy Green 36 15.37
4 0 55 4:01.94 John Rezzelle 16 15.18

-- Modified truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 62 4:00.54 Courtney Morse 13 17.22
2 0 60 4:01.97 Adam Hamilton 45 16.56

hey guys, it's been awhile but i have been really busy lately. glad to see your indoor track is doing good. i can't wait for the off road to start again, i am racing indoor now also at the track by helen and glen's shop in utica, pa. i will be over again this summer to race the off road and hopefully i will have the new b4 buggy. have you guys heard anything about it yet? i called associated and talked to a rep there and he said it is amazing. suppose to be the easiest to drive and best handling car out. we'll see though, they need to do something to keep up with you losi guys!!! i was going to get a xxx buggy then i heard about the b4 and i think i am going to stick with associated for now, what do you guys think? i am torn because i want a new buggy but i hate to buy now and regret it later. i like associated and losi and i have to give the edge to losi as it stands right now, very easy to drive and great handling but i am hoping that associated comes out with something that at least matches the losi. i'll let you know when i get one and bring it over to race. good luck with everything and have a great holiday.

tville...could you give me some info on the utica track? classes? racenights? times? etc. I'm gonna be spending some time around christmas w/ the inlaws in franklin...might be good for a night out! LOL!

sure, they race on sundays starting at 3 pm, they open around 12 i think for practice. give helen or glenn a call at hooter chassis and hobby at 814-425-3122 and they can give you better directions than i can. some fun racing there and they have benn getting around 50-55 racers each week, they tell me this slows down sometime this month though.very friendly people and a good time.

Unfortunately sunday dosent help me too much, since I wont be there then. I was kinda hopin for a weeknight.

sorry to hear that. i don't know of anyone around franklin that races on week nights, i know the group from hooters chassis and hobby go to erie on tues nights but i doubt they will race christmas eve. i iwill post here if i hear on any place racing a weeknight.

Do you have any info on this erie track?

again, glen at hooter chassis and hobby is where i get all my info at. he can give you more but here is what i know, it is at the gem city gun club on tues night, racing starts at 7 and the track is i believe 85' long. it is a very fast track and they said it is a lot of fun also. they go every week, i can't make it on weeknights so i have never been there. call glen, he is a nice guy, tell him pat madden gave you his # and he will help you out. 814-425-3122.

thanks. I think I met someone w/ a Hooter Chassis shirt on at Coopers a couple of weeks ago.

That's what I like to see, a friendly exchange of information. :) Did I get your email address Pat? If I have that, I send out info on occasion on track happenings and when we start our different seasons so you can know when we start outdoors again.

Now, as far as the B4. The only info I have right now is what has been in the magazines. Still no eta on release that I've seen. The thing does look like it's going to be a pretty nice unit.

Hey, anybody see Jan issue of Xtreme? Page 112 is an article on the NR/CTPA Truck worlds in Montpelier,Oh. Helen Singleton took 2nd in 2wD sportsman with Joe Killian 3rd.
Cool
:thumbsup:

helen and glenn are big into pulling. they r very good at it.

ovalman, my email address is pmmadden816@cs.com. i have heard some good things about the b4, i can't wait to get one, i asked helen to order me on as soon as they come out so i can try it. we'll see. i will be back over in the summer for sure. thanks for the info.

K1M.............the little boy holding the Ford puller on the opening spread is Tyler Powell, Glen and Helens Grandson. He's a funny little squirt. :)

Pat.....I'll add you right now to our mailing list so we can let you know the happenings.

Twenty six people showed up to throw down on Sunday with some great racing going on throughout the day. I'm biased but I believe the best race of the day was in the 2wd stock A-main. Mr. Burrows beat me by a cool .10! I love races like that, watching OR racing in them. Only one new record this week with Dennis Himes retaking the track record in the Modified touring car class from his brother Tom.

Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - DECEMBER 15, 2002

-- 1/12 scale pancar - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 75 8:05.70 Justin Johnson 35 14.52
2 4 74 8:06.00 Tom Himes 21 14.32
3 2 73 8:03.91 Dennis Himes 39 14.19
4 0 67 8:02.17 Adam Hamilton 27 13.07

-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 31 5:05.43 Chris Burrows 13 9.54
2 2 30 5:03.57 Kim Fortner 17 9.29
3 4 30 5:07.16 Don Weimer 30 9.18
4 5 26 5:11.31 Rick Morgan 8 7.85
5 3 26 5:11.76 Joy Fortner 18 7.84
6 1 21 5:14.40 Laura Burrows 15 6.28
7 9 18 5:13.78 Barb Morgan 9 5.39
8 7 15 5:11.27 Johna Simar 6 4.53

-- Modified touring car - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 48 5:04.02 Justin Johnson 36 14.85
2 4 47 5:02.56 Tom Himes 22 14.61
3 2 46 5:02.36 Dennis Himes 38 14.31

-- Production - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 9 50 4:01.34 Jahred Smith 4 13.84
2 1 49 4:04.11 Randy Coon 3 13.41
3 7 48 4:01.54 Bryan Simar 20 13.27
4 2 48 4:04.63 Laura Burrows 14 13.11

-- Production - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 6 45 4:03.68 Gage Campbell 2 12.33
2 2 45 4:05.30 Jim Cook 10 12.25
3 3 43 4:02.28 Jerry Burrows 19 11.85
4 1 7 0:44.40 Billy Magee 11 10.53

-- Stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 63 4:00.54 Janice Himes 24 17.50
2 1 60 4:00.58 Darin Kisko 1 16.66
3 4 58 4:02.63 Mike Flemming 37 15.97
4 7 57 4:01.64 Johna Simar 5 15.76
5 3 33 2:47.17 Randy Green 34 13.18

-- Pro stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 4 65 4:01.94 Tom Himes 23 17.95
2 0 64 4:02.97 Adam Hamilton 28 17.59
3 2 60 4:03.26 Paul Brauer 25 16.48
4 1 58 3:55.46 Don Weimer 31 16.45
5 9 14 0:51.98 Jason Okerlund 26 17.99

-- 2 WD stock - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 63 4:03.12 Chris Burrows 12 17.31
2 5 63 4:03.23 Rick Morgan 7 17.30
3 1 62 4:02.52 Kim Fortner 16 17.08

-- 2 WD stock - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 63 4:01.93 Don Weimer 32 17.39
2 3 57 4:02.76 Randy Green 33 15.68
3 2 54 4:03.81 Tim Mackey 29 14.79

I concur, Rick. The 2wd stock race (both heats too) were really clean and exciting. I just might throw a car together to run w/ you guys after the holidays. I think you know how I feel about running monster trucks on an oval anyway! LOL! Perhaps to keep with the spirit, I should see if I can find enough parts to resurrect my old LTO JRX-Pro SE! If I cant, or I get lazy it'll be some version of an Intimidator-10.

That is some good, fun racing.... I tried not to hold you up because I could tell I didn't have any thing for Chris. Doesn't get much better than that though unless Don could have been in on it too.

anyone looking for an intimidator 10 chassis? i have one that a guy made out of graphite, it was copied from an original. i will sell it cheap if anyone is interested. let me know.

maybe...how much?

$25.00 for the chassis and add shipping if i need to send it.