If you want one from there, get there quick. I was there today, 2 in boxes, 1 on display. He said that the next shipment won't be untill after christmas!

hey rick, are you open fri, sat, or sun?

Todd.......I'll be there for sure on Saturday. Might go do some shopping tomorrow so can't say for sure if I'll be here or not and Sunday I'll be at the track.

MINI T at Craft World.......
What color did you get? ;)

k1m... Chris has to sell the XXX-T in order to be allowed to get a mini.... So tell all your friends to go to the Swap and Sell page! :roll:

hey rick

Could you bring me one of those giant RACERS EDGE RC sticker I got the Idea from sugar D's lady m&m on the lid on the inside also your colored intena tubes.

Thanks Andy

I got the Idea from sugar D's lady mm on the lid on the inside

hehehehe.... I am corrupting the young people! :devil:

Hey Sugar D

I'll be racing with ya and all the other road course racers in BRP

Cool! :thumbsup: The more people out there, the more people for me to bounce off of! :jest:

got to be able to catch'em to bump'em!!!!! :devil:

Second week of racing and we already have a new track record. Canbquik was pretty quick in the second qualifier of Open BuRP (modified) and upped K1Ms record by a lap to a 61/5:00.53. Seems like the classes to be in this year are either Production or one of the two BuRP classes as they are the biggest so far. Practice racing is complete now and it's time to get down to some point racing next week.

Just as a side note, practice days will begin December 9th. Practice will be from 4-7 each Tuesday night from then on.


Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - NOVEMBER 30, 2003

-- Production - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 4 51 4:01.01 Randy Coon 13 14.13
2 6 51 4:03.42 Andy Eaton 15 13.99
3 2 47 4:02.86 Gage Campbell 1 12.93
4 7 45 4:04.30 Mike Button 18 12.30
5 5 36 4:06.71 Amanda Himes 14 9.75

-- Production - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 5 44 4:00.54 Brandon Covert 12 12.22
2 3 40 4:04.58 Jeff Covert Jr 20 10.92
3 4 24 2:17.88 Jeff Covert 21 11.62
-- 2 --- DNS --- Logan Tilley 19 0.00

-- Open BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 57 5:01.03 Kim Fortner 24 12.65
2 3 57 5:03.59 Chris Burrows 8 12.54
3 7 51 5:05.27 Johna Simar s 11 11.16
4 0 49 5:00.53 Joy Fortner S 26 10.89
5 2 49 5:05.06 Laura Burrows s 5 10.73

-- Stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 0 65 4:03.20 Adam Hamilton 27 17.85
2 2 59 4:01.69 Chris Burrows 6 16.31
3 3 58 4:03.09 Jason Okerlund 28 15.94
4 7 54 4:01.35 Johna Simar 10 14.94

-- Fun BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 60 5:00.79 Kim Fortner 23 13.32
2 5 57 5:02.28 Rick Morgan 2 12.59
3 2 55 5:01.59 Shaun Powell 9 12.18
4 3 55 5:06.64 Andy Eaton 16 11.98
5 4 49 5:10.41 Laura Burrows 4 10.54

-- Fun BuRP - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 51 5:01.82 Chris Burrows 7 11.29
2 0 48 5:01.36 Joy Fortner 25 10.64
3 4 45 5:05.13 Mike Button 22 9.85
4 7 37 5:07.15 Barb Morgan 3 8.04
5 2 28 5:15.24 Ray Eaton 17 5.93

i don't suppose i could run my XXX in the production class could i ? :confused: if so what do i need?

All you need to run production is a 540 size closed end-bell motor. Rick sells them at the track. This is what they look like: closed end-bell (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGN28&P=7)

Todd.......like Shaun said all you need is a 540 "tin can" motor and a 6 cell battery pack. You can run any type of car in Production, buggy, truck, whatever. The only drawback of the tin can motors is you will need to "hog out" the motor mount area some to get it to fit.

i don't suppose i could run my XXX in the production class could i ? :confused: if so what do i need?

Yeah you'll need a 540 the 540 traxxas stinger or tamiya 540 are what's mostly run. Personaly I'd go with the stinger because there about $18-$19 and are wound a little faster.

thanks, i'm gonna try like crazy to get there Sunday. may not race but maybe get my stuff together. motor, tires, springs. you know, everything! :freak:

is there such a thing as a mounted and trued foam tire set with a 3/8" hex for my xxx buggy? i'm being lazy. or am i going to have to glue them and all that stuff? or maybe does anyone have fabrication ideas?

don't know but maybe a older style front hub will fit and you'll be able to run pan car fronts. I'll bring a set of tires front pan car and rear pan car cut down with the hub adapters for you to try. :thumbsup:

thanks cris

is there such a thing as a mounted and trued foam tire set with a 3/8" hex for my xxx buggy? i'm being lazy. or am i going to have to glue them and all that stuff? or maybe does anyone have fabrication ideas?

You can run pancar front tires but it takes a bit of a modification. You have to run truck spindles and axles and use 5/16x3/8 flanged bearings. Either that or you can check out TM Racing Components website. They make direct fit foams for the XX/XXX.

are the compounds they use the same as jaco or trc?

http://www.tm-rc-racingcomponents.com/buggiesFrame1Source1.htm (http://)

Thats the link to the T.M. site. I'd reccomend changing the front end around like Rick described, but use axles from the old JRX-Pro type cars, so its not so W-I-D-E!

Think they'll be a 2wd class this week, Rick?? The "Ugly Ride" is almost ready, but underneath is a new Grand Motorsports HB3O!

Oops..double post!

J.Q. bring it man, would love to see the ugly ride again :lol:

for the first week of points there really isn't a lot of SMACK TALK on this forum, is anyone out there??????????? :freak:

John Q.......Johna is preparing hers as I type but I dunno if she'll run it. I'm sure Canbquik would be glad to have someone to run with and I bet if it aint snowing Courtney will be back this week. I dunno how the older axles would work in the newer parts? Will be glad to finally see that HB3O. :thumbsup:

Canbquik............no smack talk from me, I'm running the fun class. :tongue:

oh come on rick you got to get down and dirty sometime :jest:

Rick, I was wondering, what do you have for esc's atm?

what size wheels should i get? 2.2" or 2". and what compunds do ya'll recomend?

scout:
I'd go with 2" - lower is better. Green rears and green or blue fronts.
When ya gonna stop yackin and start racin? :jest:

:lol: i gotta get my crap together, i can only get a little here, and a little there. its tough having a wife lol.

What oil and pistons are you guys using in your buggy's and/or trucks?

hey polli are you not working?

Nope, no parts to run

I usually stick with 30WT. oil, and then just use a stiffer spring. Sometimes I have to put limiters in the shock to adjust length of travel. Iset my truck up with stock pistons, 30WT oil, and then I limmited the rear shocks so that they were the same length as the front. On my buggy I purchased LOSI RALLY SHOCK SET, they are about a 1/4" longer than the touring car and about 1/4" shorter than truck fronts. It is all in what works for you and the only way to know is to set it up how YOU feel will work best. Then at the track run it and make adjustments, hope this helped, Chris :thumbsup:

I'll expect you to have your car out too, Morgan!

Sorry Mr. Brauer, I'm only BuRPin' it this year. :)

Todd.........I'll have to look but are you sure they make them for the XX/XXX in 2.0? I'm thinkin' they only have 2.2 like the stock size?

Polli........what are you looking for in ESCs? GT7, Dually, Rooster, etc.

Lots of exciting racing this week, huh? Some good close racing and some too close racing but exciting. Don and Johna must have traded the lead 6 times in 3 laps in the truck main. Rick and Don were almost the same way in the Fun Burp class. Chris & I had a good run going in Mod Burp until he broke, my battery dumped right about then too, so Shawn won with his new stock Fun Won. Nice run, Sugar Daddy! Production saw it's share of dogfights today too. Then there was the 2wd stock.......there was some good racing there too, but some horrific crashes!
Kinda like Robot Wars. :jest:

brp was interesting... :freak: and two wheel stock was well, VERY interesting. K1M, call me when you get off line, please :thumbsup:

Canbquick: Your lines busy.....Damn internet! :lol:

Altogether now....ON THREE!

8:15..... :thumbsup:

Chris, I took the shock shaft's and pistons out of the Sreet Weapon shocks you sold me at the swap meet, and put them in the Double x shock bodies. This lowered the car to the height of my touring car. It also lets me use tourig car springs.

Sorry I acted like a speed bump for everybody in the 2wd class, I had the car geared way too low, not too mention my lack of driving skills. You were right Rick, Carpet is a WHOLE different animal.

How much was that gt7 again? I may have to wait a bit, gotta get some work done on my car.

What a first week of points racing! Good close and like K1M said, to close racing in every class this week. Three new records hit the books this week and they were all in the BuRP classes. Sugar Daddy now holds the Open BuRP stock class record firmly with a 56/5:02.81. A full four laps more than the previous record! :eek: K1M took back his record in the Open BuRP modified class from Canbquik with a run of 62/5:02.07. And finally, I couldn't let Sugar Daddy hold records in two classes so I laid down a 34/5:03.70 in the Fun BuRP main to reclaim my top spot after he broke my previous record in the first heat. :D Looks as though it's going to be another fun winter season...........



Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - DECEMBER 7, 2003

-- Production - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 54 4:00.54 Andy Eaton 6 15.00
2 7 52 4:02.09 Mike Button 25 14.35
3 4 50 4:03.84 Brent Harris 39 13.70
4 2 5 0:29.13 Randy Coon 33 11.46
-- 1 --- DNS --- Jeff Covert 32 0.00

-- Production - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 53 4:01.71 Gage Campbell 1 14.65
2 1 45 4:01.73 Brandon Covert 30 12.43
3 3 42 3:29.73 Amanda Himes 34 13.38
-- 4 --- DNS --- Jeff Covert Jr 31 0.00

-- Open BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 56 5:02.81 Shaun Powell S 3 12.35
2 0 50 5:01.21 Kim Fortner 16 11.09
3 4 46 5:02.02 Laura Burrows S 9 10.17
4 6 40 3:37.81 Chris Burrows 12 12.27
5 2 39 3:50.42 Joy Fortner S 17 11.30
6 7 37 3:43.17 Johna Simar S 19 11.07

-- Stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 0 65 4:02.64 Adam Hamilton 27 17.89
2 3 64 4:00.54 Courtney Morse 28 17.77
3 1 61 3:55.28 Tom Himes 35 17.32
4 2 59 4:00.86 Janice Himes 37 16.36

-- Stock truck - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 60 4:01.42 Don Weimer 22 16.60
2 7 60 4:03.89 Johna Simar 20 16.43
3 1 52 4:02.81 Shawn Richards 5 14.30

-- 2 WD stock - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 62 4:01.13 Paul Brauer 24 17.18
2 3 61 4:01.43 Courtney Morse 29 16.88
3 1 60 4:00.92 Chris Burrows 21 16.64
4 5 43 4:03.93 Todd Steinberg 38 11.77
5 4 6 0:47.22 Paul Burlingame 26 8.49

-- Modified touring car - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 45 5:03.02 Tom Himes 36 13.16
2 2 30 5:00.85 Paul Burlimgame 40 8.83

-- Fun BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 5 34 5:03.70 Rick Morgan 13 9.92
2 0 31 5:08.07 Kim Fortner 15 8.91
3 3 30 5:01.92 Shaun Powell 4 8.80
4 1 29 5:04.89 Don Weimer 23 8.43
5 2 26 5:09.14 Andy Eaton 7 7.45

-- Fun BuRP - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 4 27 5:00.53 Laura Burrows 8 7.96
2 2 25 5:06.60 Joy Fortner 18 7.22
3 8 19 5:00.56 Barb Morgan 14 5.60
4 1 13 3:08.10 Gage Campbell 2 6.12
-- 6 --- DNS --- Chris Burrows 11 0.00

Polli.........$135 for the GT7.

Polli and Scoutout02.......I don't want to make any waves or anything here guys but...........you "might" want to hone your skills on carpet oval in the Production class before moving up to 2wd stock. As you can see,things are a LOT different in the carpet world than off road. All it would cost you is a tin can motor. Once again, I don't want to piss you off as it's just a suggestion and I'd hate to see you get frustrated with the way things go and quit. I just suggest that anybody just coming into carpet oval start out in the Production class to get a little experience under their belt, both driving and setup.

productions almost as fast but just if not more competitive plus there's some trucks in production that I call pace cars cause they're not to fast but go all over and there's any where from 1 to 5 trucks at once it's pretty hecktic just have to avoid the wrecks and go a good speed and you'll do fine :thumbsup:

hey el guapo
you got e-mail :thumbsup:

Polli or Todd I'd be happy to help with your set-up, I'm going over to practice tomorrow night. 2Wd is a tough class to jump into, more than anything is the speed, when we're running almost twice as fast things tend to get close real quick :freak:

Rick,
Well said, and perhaps best coming from you. The 2wd cars are VERY quick and its hard to react (even for the best drivers) when there is a very large speed differential between the fast cars and the slower ones. The production class is a great place to learn

Polli and Scout: I'm not at the track all of the time, but after the Holidays, I'm hoping to be there most of the time. If you need any help or set-up tips, please don't be afraid to ask me....if nothing else, thats what us guys who have been racing forever are good for! :lol: You're surrounded by some of the most friendly racers around and they are all a good resource for any questions. Everyone has their own style so you might not always get the answer that works for you, but you'll get a lot of great suggestions.

Hey Canbquik, I'm glad you mentioned that because I almost forgot to post.

PRACTICE NIGHTS!
If there is ANYONE that would like to get in a little practice on the oval during the week between race days you should stop by Tuesday nights. I'll be at the track from 4 - 7 or so for anyone that would like to make any adjustments to help get you going faster. There usually isn't much of a crowd so stop by and have some fun. See everyone there!

thanks much guys. and what polli said, ditto for me. i had no idea that it was that kind of pace and lets not forget the front ribs i had. lol i'm such a rookie, that i wouldn't take offence to one of ya'll tellin me to sit down. he he. i'm getting normal foam tires about friday. (you we're right about the size of the wheels/tires rick) the site threw me, so i called the guy and got it straightened out. still no batts though. so, i'm gonna have to skip this week. canbquik, i'm gonna take you up on the set-up thing just a matter of when i can get there. thanks all.