My own stupidity......ya know how it is, hind sight is 20/20. :rolleyes:
Ok........bit confused..

Ok........bit confused..

Tom figured he'd run stock since there would be more people so then Adam wanted to know if he could run also. The point I'm trying to make is that I really shouldn't have let either of them run stock, that is what I'm trying to get at with "my own stupidity".

Tom figured he'd run stock since there would be more people so then Adam wanted to know if he could run also. The point I'm trying to make is that I really shouldn't have let either of them run stock, that is what I'm trying to get at with "my own stupidity".
Got ya on hindsight......opening up the can of worms with the stock / pro stock.

well boys, another Sunday down and ' Team Old Lo' ' comes through in one peice again :thumbsup: ( the luck is bountiful) Good run K1M in the main. Just couldn't seem to track you down. Come close in the corner, but amazingly you were always in the way ;) Can't a brother get a LITTLE track?

well boys, another Sunday down and ' Team Old Lo' ' comes through in one peice again :thumbsup: ( the luck is bountiful) Good run K1M in the main. Just couldn't seem to track you down. Come close in the corner, but amazingly you were always in the way ;) Can't a brother get a LITTLE track? I dunno about ol Team Losi, But I do know New Team Losi didn't fair to well.....1 Tranny Case, One Tranny Brace, 1 Tranny Plate, and 1 Shock support later. It was like someone thru a M-80 in rearend... :mad:

I dunno about ol Team Losi, But I do know New Team Losi didn't fair to well.....1 Tranny Case, One Tranny Brace, 1 Tranny Plate, and 1 Shock support later. It was like someone thru a M-80 in rearend... :mad:


the FORCE was definetly NOT with you yesterday! :freak: Are you sure you were racing that and didn't throw it out of the vehicle on the way over? ;)

the FORCE was definetly NOT with you yesterday! :freak: Are you sure you were racing that and didn't throw it out of the vehicle on the way over? ;)

Hmmmmm, I'm pretty sure it was Team Losi tranny...although after the aftermath it could have been a T3 tranny..couldn't really tell with all the mangled parts....... :freak: ...It looked like a hell of a wreck......

What a week we had at RER/CR&H. A little lower turnout with the beautiful weather but those in attendance put on a good showing. One new track record to report as Adam Hamilton piloted his T3 to a new Pro stock truck record. Isn't it funny that the last couple records have been set by stock chassis trucks in this class albet Jasons did have an offset battery setup so can't be considered stock. :rolleyes: Only two weeks remain before we hand out some trophies and make plans for the off road season.


Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - MARCH 16, 2003

-- 1/12 scale pancar - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 32 3:49.62 Tom Himes 34 13.11
2 0 15 2:18.26 Adam Hamilton 35 10.20


Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - MARCH 16, 2003

-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 6 33 5:05.05 Kim Fortner 23 10.17
2 5 33 5:08.00 Rick Morgan 2 10.08
3 2 32 5:06.20 Chris Burrows 13 9.83
4 7 28 5:06.82 Johna Simar 5 8.58
5 8 27 5:01.48 Joy Fortner 25 8.42
6 1 23 5:06.70 Laura Burrows 11 7.05


Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - MARCH 16, 2003

-- BuRP - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 28 5:03.14 Andy Eaton 9 8.69
2 4 27 5:10.68 Brent Harris 38 8.17
3 9 22 5:01.01 Barb Morgan 3 6.87
4 2 14 5:20.24 Sandy McWilliams 22 4.11
-- 0 --- DNS --- Michael Button 28 0.00


Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - MARCH 16, 2003

-- Production - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 54 4:01.49 Randy Coon 6 14.94
2 3 52 4:04.22 Doyle Harris 31 14.22
3 1 49 4:01.54 Brent Harris 30 13.55
4 7 22 1:47.00 Michael Button 29 13.73


Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - MARCH 16, 2003

-- Production - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 4 51 4:03.26 Jim Cook 19 14.00
2 1 50 4:01.12 Laura Burrows 10 13.85
3 2 38 3:17.66 Bryan Simar 14 12.84
4 3 14 1:04.55 Andy Eaton 8 14.49


Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - MARCH 16, 2003

-- Production - C MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 4 48 4:01.56 Amanda Himes 7 13.27
2 1 46 4:02.74 Jerry Burrows 21 12.66
3 3 41 4:02.33 Cory Kisko 20 11.30


Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - MARCH 16, 2003

-- 2 WD stock - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 69 4:01.30 Courtney Morse 16 19.10
2 7 67 4:00.57 Paul Brauer 15 18.60
3 0 66 4:00.54 Adam Hamilton 37 18.33
-- 5 --- DNS --- Rick Morgan 1 0.00


Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - MARCH 16, 2003

-- 2 WD stock - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 63 4:03.48 Kim Fortner 24 17.28
2 2 61 4:00.81 Chris Burrows 12 16.92
3 3 61 4:03.74 Bob Pack 33 16.72


Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - MARCH 16, 2003

-- Stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 64 4:00.57 Tom Himes 26 17.77
2 3 63 4:00.54 Janice Himes 27 17.50
3 7 63 4:02.85 Johna Simar 4 17.33
4 1 34 2:21.10 Darin Kisko 18 16.10


Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - MARCH 16, 2003

-- Pro stock truck - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 0 67 4:00.75 Adam Hamilton 36 18.59
2 3 65 4:02.70 Courtney Morse 17 17.89
3 1 62 4:01.57 Bob Pack 32 17.14


Results by AUTOSCORE (S/N 093)

well boys, another Sunday down and ' Team Old Lo' ' comes through in one peice again :thumbsup: ( the luck is bountiful) Good run K1M in the main. Just couldn't seem to track you down. Come close in the corner, but amazingly you were always in the way ;) Can't a brother get a LITTLE track?

That's the kind of racing I like, but I have to say you were very polite to wait for me after we got together in turn 4. You don't see that happen these days very often. I can't honestly say I would have done the same if the roles were reversed, as it was obviously not intentional - just glad PacMan didn't pass us both while we were bangin wheels!

That was a blast! It is very conforting to know you WOULDN'T have waited :freak:

I have a question for johnqbublic I think I know who you are do you run at rick's carpet track and run 2wd stock with the black wedge car? :thumbsup:

Yes, the "ugly ride".

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Kinda off subject..but has anybody flicked on thier TV. Kinda bringing back some memories.

So what's up with the motors in the production class? I'm hearing alot of complaints about the lifespan of those soup can motors. Seems several of our new racers have had to buy new motors and they didn't last very long at all. Are the brushes actually being knocked loose, or are they being over heated and coming unbonded from the spring? Either way, no one wants to have to buy 2 or 3 motors/season.....thought that's what the production class was all about. Maybe it's me but I don't think a kid should need a 3300mah battery to run that class either.

So what's up with the motors in the production class? I'm hearing alot of complaints about the lifespan of those soup can motors. Seems several of our new racers have had to buy new motors and they didn't last very long at all. Are the brushes actually being knocked loose, or are they being over heated and coming unbonded from the spring? Either way, no one wants to have to buy 2 or 3 motors/season.....thought that's what the production class was all about. Maybe it's me but I don't think a kid should need a 3300mah battery to run that class either.
I've only went thru 1 motor. As a matter of fact the motor was left over from Darins days of production racing and the threads to screw it to the motor plate stripped out. The motor still ran fine. I think whats happening is they're way over gearing them, combined with running the 3000 or 3300 cells that seems to make them tin can motors run hot. The motor that's in there now was acutally another used motor I got in a trade. I'm running the ole 3 year old 2200 cells, I think Randy is running 1 year old 1700's and 1 year old 2400's. Cory's running 3 year old 1700's...I dunno what everyone else is running..I'm assuming 3000's or 3300's. I kind of agree..the stock class of things is starting to filter over into the production. You can't seem to get the 1700's or 2000's anymore..maybe limit it to 2400's?..Just my 2 cents. :thumbsup:

im running 2400's in my 2 races and a 3000 in my last race but my motor isn't realy getting all that hot with the heat sink on it.and bryan is running 2000's the first 2 and a 3000 in the last.
i dont no my gear ratio but im running a 100t spur and a 22t pinion.

im running 2400's in my 2 races and a 3000 in my last race but my motor isn't realy getting all that hot with the heat sink on it.and bryan is running 2000's the first 2 and a 3000 in the last.
i dont no me gear ratio but im running a 100t spur and a 22t pinion.
Never ran a heat sink on a production motor..let alone a stock motor. It may be your over gearing.

2 words...gear rule.

2 words...gear rule.
Ok....I'll bite..."gear rule"? :confused:

2 words...gear rule.


Paul I agree..make it so that you can only run up to a certain gear ratio! Take everybodies vehicles in production, then figure out the gear ratios (spur/pinionxtransmission ratio) for all the cars , take the AVERAGE and make this your MAXIMUM gear ratio?

Paul I agree..make it so that you can only run up to a certain gear ratio! Take everybodies vehicles in production, then figure out the gear ratios (spur/pinionxtransmission ratio) for all the cars , take the AVERAGE and make this your MAXIMUM gear ratio?
Ok..I bit.... I usually gear by the motor. The production motors appear to run best luke warm. Although the gear rule, (never heard of it called that), is a good starting point. Never really checked to see what everyone was running. I've experimented, but the gear ratio I'm running, combined with the motor temp seems to work best for the way I drive it. I agree I don't seem to be as fast as some of the trucks out there, but sometimes speed isn't where it's at.

Production motors.......I really don't know what the deal is with them either guys. I've never seen anything like it before. I think Bryan, Michael, and Jahred have all been through at least two of them this year. As to if they are busting the brush loose or frying it off, I don't really know on that one either. :confused: I know Michael has gotten his hot a few times but I don't know as Bryan has gotten his that hot? Jahred has had his smokin' a few times I've felt it. I don't know whether it is a bad batch of motors or if these guys are doing something wrong to be honest. I can REALLY understand their frustration though as to keep replacing them gets expensive. I'm not ordering any more of the Tamiya motors at this time. I just ordered four of the Traxxas Stinger motors. I wanted to try and get the Reedy closed endbell motor but apparently they have discontinued this motor. It was basically the same as the Stinger I believe however.

As to the battery thing. Just like any other class, you can try to tell them but advise only goes so far. Look at our old XXT track truck. Michael Frontino has been running that and doing pretty well for himself. The truck has a silver can Mabuchi motor and old matched 1700 cells. If he could stay out of trouble and with some different gearing (it's geared WAAAAYY conservative) I'm sure he could do even better. I really don't think 3000s/3300s are needed for Production either but it's kind of hard to tell the kids this that already have them now. Hell I bet you could run all three races with a GP3300 and have time to spare! As far as a gear rule goes.........then you have one figure out that tire diameter matters and everybody has to follow suite so the $$$ amount comes back into effect. These kind of problems have just really come to light this year and if you'll notice, it's been the biggest class of Production we've ever had. Could it be that things have just gotten competitive enough for these problems to finally come out?? :rolleyes: The answers may never be known...........

Wow! Busy place tonite, huh?

Isn't the Stinger a 20 turn outlaw motor?

most of the guys and gals running are using truck tires, so the only thing you would have to do is to figure rollout on the guys that don't use them.

I Don't know what's going on with those motor's cause mine is almost as hot as mikes and not sure about mike but I'm geared higher than brain and Brain said he went through 4 motor's this year and mikes gone through 3 and I started racing a week after mike started and I still have my first motor and runing 2400's for all races.I Guess it's just the luck of the buy.Bye the way rick tried out my Evader with those Monster Beetle tires wensday works pretty good pretty fast too.

Production motors....... I think Bryan, Michael, and Jahred have all been through at least two of them this year. I know Michael has gotten his hot a few times but I don't know as Bryan has gotten his that hot? Jahred has had his smokin' a few times I've felt it.

As to the battery thing. Just like any other class, you can try to tell them but advise only goes so far. Look at our old XXT track truck. Michael Frontino has been running that and doing pretty well for himself. The truck has a silver can Mabuchi motor and old matched 1700 cells. Hell I bet you could run all three races with a GP3300 and have time to spare! As far as a gear rule goes.........then you have one figure out that tire diameter matters and everybody has to follow suite so the $$$ amount comes back into effect. :rolleyes: The answers may never be known...........


Jahred replaced his motor once that I was aware of....apparently he thought banana lube could be used for comm lube. I'm almost certain that Jahred is way overgeared. I know when Jahred pulls his off the track, his motor is quite warm. A heck of lot warmer than I'd run it. Almost to where I'd run a stock motor.

As far as running all three races with one pack on the 3300's...I agree. From what was able to dig up on them, is some people are acutally running one pack 3 times a day in a stock class and claiming best performance in 2nd and 3rd runs. I know for a fact Jahred is running a panasonic 3000 all 3 of his races for the most part.

As far as the Gear Rule.......I guess I misinterpetted what was stated in the posts earlier. I really don't agree in it.....for one reason. The production class was designed for beginners. Meaning new blood...new blood and old blood..whatever..point being to get people interested in the sport. It's kind of hard sometimes to get people interested when to get a USED competive vehicle about $150.00 you throw a couple battery packs in and ect..about $200.00....now throw a gear rule in the mix.....I don't think it'll work as people generally don't understand gearing and roll out and ect. People don't want to do a crap load of math. They want to know what do I need to run, and throw it on the track....box stock truck, some foam tires, some 6 cell batteries, and a closed end bell motor....Pretty simple to me..I think it would detere people from coming by telling them you gotta max at this gear ratio.


I think as far as the class being competive...yes.....but then again I'm back to what I'd stated before....I think a lot of people are trying to go fast as hell without 1st learning to drive it 1st. Cory gets disgusted with me keeping him running slow. By the time I've maxed his speed out, he'll be a pretty decent driver. I'm trying to get him out the frame of mind that if something is in his way hit it. Trying to get him to negotate around it and corners and other vehicles. I did the same with Darin a few years back. As he got better, I sped it up. I'd say at this point he's a pretty good driver...pretty aware of other drivers and courteous while on the track.

Ok, I think you can do a gear rule and make it very simple. No need for roll-out calcs for each racer. Pick a final drive ratio that you want to make as the rule...something a little lower than what everyone is running now. Then figure out what pinion/spur combination is needed for each kind of truck (xxxt, t3, etc) and that is what someone with that particular truck must run. You can take it one step further and do a roll-out calc to figure out the gear rule if someone shows up w/ a car.

Now what about people using different tire sizes? Well, I think that it will encourage everyone to use bigger tires, so you may have to start out w/ new ones. It will eliminate buying new tires and immediately cutting them down to a small dia. for handling. But...you don't want to go too big because your handling will suffer.

As with everything there are advantages and disadvantages. I think the biggest advantage is that it will make the drivers learn faster. One of the hardest thing to learn is that sometimes if you slow down you'll go faster. A gear rule takes care of the slowing down part. I think that it will make racers learn how to race the whole track, not just 2 drag races! LOL! It will keep everyone under control a little more, and ultimately I beleive that it will result in cleaner races and less broken parts....not to mention less burnt up motors. I really beleive that most races put having the fastest car ahead of learning to drive smoothly. When I first started racing I had a car w/ a badly bound up transmission...but I didnt know any better. Nothing I did would make that pile as fast as everyone else (including trying a slightly hotter than stock motor). So, I spent a season going slow....realizing that if I was going to be competitive, I'd have to learn to drive good smooth lines, and try to look ahead and miss wrecks. From a results standpoint, I wasted an entire summer, but looking back on the summer of 1989, I credit that slow car for making me a good driver. But I digress..........

About the biggest disadvantage that I see is it becoming a war of high voltage #s on your packs, but I don't see that happening w/ this class...not sure why. Anyone who can afford to buy high $$$ packs like that should not be running production anyway.

Just my $.02.

About the biggest disadvantage that I see is it becoming a war of high voltage #s on your packs, but I don't see that happening w/ this class...not sure why. Anyone who can afford to buy high $$$ packs like that should not be running production anyway.

Just my $.02.
I guess my only thoughts on this is, the person goes out spends $$$ on top of line packs, never raced before, will run the upper classes instead of production. Which in turn will lead to more and more wrecks and more and more parts replaced. I particularly am not to fond of that idea....(BTW- I have no intention of moving on up to a stock class), but I do know there are quite of bit of the new production drivers that are itching to move on up that have very minimal experience navigating around the track.

Just a thought.....could get expensive for them as well as the other drivers. I know one wreck last weekend cost me $20.00 in parts to put it back together.

Wow! Busy place tonite, huh?

Isn't the Stinger a 20 turn outlaw motor?

Not exactly an "outlaw" motor. We are allowing any "tin can" style motor to be used since this is what some cars came with originally. It seems nobody really knows what turn the Tamiya black can motors are or what makes them "sport tuned" but it seems they are plenty competitive with the Stinger/Reedy motors so they must be pretty close to the same.

most of the guys and gals running are using truck tires, so the only thing you would have to do is to figure rollout on the guys that don't use them.

So what your saying is you want my day to be even more busy with tech? :tongue: :p

I don't really know what the answer is guys. I just don't think a gear rule would work with this class. To many variables to contend with. First thing you know I'll have the Production racers, yes the "newbies" reaching for my throat. :lol:

Anybody wanna buy a track? Seems I ask that question every year and nobody jumps at the question. :jest:

No real answer to the problem UNTIL we figure out why? Is it the 3000/3300 -- gearing-- driving style?????????????????????????
WHO KNOWS

No real answer to the problem UNTIL we figure out why? Is it the 3000/3300 -- gearing-- driving style?????????????????????????
WHO KNOWS
In my opinion....(of course everyone has one), at any rate I believe it to be a combination of 3000/3300 and overgearing. Of course overgearing to me is at the expense of the driver. The choice is theirs as Rick already stated....they're are to many varibles......too many different vehicles on the track. I think maybe if a rule just HAS to be set I would say put the stoppers on the batteries...say like I said a 2400 would be max....until they are totally phased out. Realistically though to me the class is for beginners.....who am I to scoff if a kid can pick up a 3300 on a good deal..why shouldn't he..I would. I think overall in my opinion leave the rules as they lay. The discretion to run 3300's, overgear, (knowing that the motor will probably smoke), should be left with the driver. I know for a fact you other guy's as well as me, answer questions to gearing, motors, trucks, and ect all the time. SO the information is already there...now whether they choose to listen or not is they're own progative. BTW, when we started we were running some 1400's and junk 1700's it was all we afford, everyone else was running top of line 1700's and 2000's. I couldn't afford 2000's, but I could afford the 2200's. At $35.00 a pack that was far feasaible yet they were competive. Rick didn't outlaw us....let us run. I can honestly say, I appreciate that..had he made us get 2000's..we'd probably finished up at that point. Personnally I don't see it as a problem. We have a big class this year..I'd say it's good for the hobby. So I guess let it fly. :thumbsup:

Personally I think it's probably a combination of overgearing and/or getting hit just right that has done them in UNLESS there was a bad production run of them at the factory. In this case they'd probably never admit it. Other than that, I think Jim pretty well summed things up, 3000s/3300s and overgearing are at the discretion of the driver. :thumbsup: They just have to understand that where there is heat, $$$ will follow. :)

But batts don't mean everything because I won my first A-main with a 1500 In each race and that one Tuesday night before I got my 2400's Randy was there and he was runing 2000's and he couldn't figure out how I was sticking with him for that long of a time period. Beets Me Well See Ya Sunday :thumbsup:

Personally I think it's probably a combination of overgearing and/or getting hit just right that has done them in UNLESS there was a bad production run of them at the factory. In this case they'd probably never admit it. Other than that, I think Jim pretty well summed things up, 3000s/3300s and overgearing are at the discretion of the driver. :thumbsup: They just have to understand that where there is heat, $$$ will follow. :)


as Jim said you can only tell them of your experience, the rest is up to the driver and their WALLET DEPTH :freak:

I know that feeling :lol:

I'm so sick of all these QUOTES i could puke......nice new software, Hank!


If a newbie thinks he needs a $60 battery and 3 motors to run one season in production class, there's something wrong and it's NOT good for the hobby!

I agree with K1m and 2400's are in $60 price range but i got them from chris 3 for $30 not a bad deal huh? :D

Hate to quote you K1M but, "If a newbie thinks he needs a $60 battery and 3 motors to run one season in production class, there's something wrong and it's NOT good for the hobby!".

The key words in there Kim are "THINKS he needs". Welcome to the newbie racing philosofy (sp?).............how long you been doing this again because you should now this by now? :cool:

I guess my point was production was designed for the beginner. How many times you started some hobby and went whole hog before you realized what you were getting into $$$wise? I'm running batteries that by today's standards are junk..non-competive. Cory's running 3 1700's that with a combination of 3 batteries was what...$60.00. Yeah they're not 1.19 volters...but point being..what good would it do him. Heck darin's not even running $100.00 battery packs. Mine say they are 1.17, but that was 3 years ago. You don't need top of the line packs in production. That little tin can motor is not gonna draw the amps a stock and mod motor are........your wasting your money with additional MAH. As I said also if your replacing a 3 tin can motors in a season...somethings wrong. When these guy's pull a truck off the track and that tin can motor is hotter than I've ran a stock motor........somethings wrong. Randy's done it....Jarhead's done it..and I assuming the rest have or still doing it. They're way over gearing them poor little motors. Why..because they can... because the batteries will let them do it. Cory's motor is every bit of 10 years old. Mine.. it's anybody's guess, because I got it in a trade. Point being if they settled down on the track, they would be very surprised at how many more laps they pull without overgearing. I win a couple in the A- main, a couple in the B-main, C- main.......that's part of racing. I'm not going to win every week...I don't expect it..heck I just started, just like most everyone else in the production section this year.

You took the words out of my mouth well see you guys Tomarrow

Let the races being

Jim, maybe you can be the new spokesman for Production class racers because it sounds like you have about the right outlook on what the class is about. :thumbsup:

Jim, maybe you can be the new spokesman for Production class racers because it sounds like you have about the right outlook on what the class is about. :thumbsup:Hmmmmmm...I like the way that sound......"spokesman for Production class racers"....kinda makes me feel important and stuff...LOLOLOL :lol: Acutally one of the reasons I started out there, Production Class, is because I know how to setup them up...but by rights..I'm a new driver in every sense of the word. I don't mind answering questions..opinions and ect. I figured realisticly there is no one in the production class that knows what it's about...and can relate to what is happening on the track....as of this year. It was pretty ruff starting out in the production class a few years ago.....a lot of people had a lot of good sound advice, but a lot of it pertained to the stock and mod. No one of any experience level was running the production level. It was frustrating at times....plus I got Cory running in the production this year too. It's a low maintenance class for fun. You like then you go up to stock...or if you just like lo maintenance..stay in production. Lots of competion..but for the most part the drivers and the trucks are on the same level.....sorry buttons......49 Fords. It comes down to a driver gaining experience with the truck, track, and maintance. Makes for a pretty evened up lo cost starting class, but you can be just as competive as the guy that has the brand new 3000's packs, or brand new motor, cause if the trucks capable of cutting 58 laps, but the driver can only do 54 due to experience. Then you have the guy )or girl) which ever it may be, has a truck that'll cut 55 laps..and can drive it fairly well cut's 54 laps....that's the picture I'm seeing. So for the most part..every thing is on the same level. I proudly accept the Production Spokeperson..... :lol:

Better racing for me this week but did better in the qualifyers than the main I couldn't steer :confused: but found out that the controller batts were dead. Hey Rick or Chris do you know how long you charge A controller with the little Ac/Dc plug in that goes in the controller then Into the indi 16x3 Pro charger? BTW K1m do ya like those pic's :thumbsup:

BTW started customizing the new bod should be ready by Sunday Last Race Huh my Sunday's are going to be dull till dirt starts :( I wonder if Brain built that Carpet track in his basement Yet ?

Only 2 more months of bartending....YAY, i'll be back to driving dozer soon...YAY, the hills are showing less and less snow...YAY, the ground isn't so wet...YAY, the sun is starting to shine...YAY,the smell of tire compound has just about left my body...YAY, what is this crazy person YAYing about you ask.. in a loud voice scooby yells... OFFROAD IS COMING!!! :thumbsup: :wave:

Better racing for me this week but did better in the qualifyers than the main I couldn't steer :confused: but found out that the controller batts were dead. Hey Rick or Chris do you know how long you charge A controller with the little Ac/Dc plug in that goes in the controller then Into the indi 16x3 Pro charger? BTW K1m do ya like those pic's :thumbsup:


Andy, I think all you do is plug it into the back of the charger, then into the controller, because all it will do is charge them at the set rate from the factory. When the LITTLE LIGHT at the top of the charger goes out she's done!!!!!! :thumbsup:

65 LAPS


Team Old Lo' really was hooked up today!! :eek: All I can figure is every odd numbered house on every third street must of flushed their toilet at the SAME TIME for that miracle to happen! :lol: