i have noticed most heroes are either in black or darker costumes than their comic book counterparts.

all recent Batman films - Black

Superman Returns - darker blue and red

X-Men series - black

Blade - black

Fantastic Four - Dark blue

daredevil - dark red

Spider man 3 - maybe a black costume?

did i miss anybody?


are we gonna see.....

Iron Man - all dark red armour?

Thor - All black leather?

CAPTAIN AMERICA - DARK RED WHITE AND BLUE???


do we need all our heroes in dark uniforms??

Once again....Batman (in his 1989 film) is at the forefront of fashion. He knows chicks dig the black leather and the cool car!

They make dark white? I don't get hung up on the specifics of costumes quite the way some fans do. The "essence" of the character is the most important thing to get right, but don't mess with the iconography too much.

It may also be a function of the medium. Brightly colored costumes on the comic book page look cool, but the audience's expectations in live action are going to be different. A brightly dressed superhero would simply look ridiculous and consequently, it would be hard to suspend your disbelief.

I harken back to the first X-Men, when Wolverine asks why everyone has a black costume and Cyclops replies, "What did you expect? Yellow spandex?" Who would believe a grown (superhero) man would wear yellow?... especially when real-life wolverines are not yellow. Same thing with bats: they're black or dark brown.

Though to be fair, Spidey's costume in the first two was pretty faithful to the comic book, but then again, it fits with the character. Spidey without his costume wouldn't be the same: It's too iconic.

José

Also, you have to remember there are conventions in comics. I would say that Batman's costume is black in the comics. It may have been colored blue, but so was Superman's hair.

Also, you have to remember there are conventions in comics. I would say that Batman's costume is black in the comics. It may have been colored blue, but so was Superman's hair.

Right. I never really perceived Daredevil's costume as being "bright" red or FF's costumes being "bright" blue. A lot was dependent on the inking in any particular comic book era. And to be honest, if an "Iron Man" movie does see the light of day - I don't think red and gold is necessarily the right choice for the big screen. And movie-makers better keep Thor in Asgard and give him some more traditionally Viking-like duds unless they plan on an outright comedy.

Costume colors in comics tend to cross the line to varying degrees between being "color", "shading" and "lighting". It can't be taken so literally when translating to live action film.

That being said, I wouldn't have minded Batman's costume in "Begins" having some grey in it. In fact, in that scene when he's building the costume, I almost thought they were going to go with the grey and black scheme until he spray painted right across the chest. The suit was already a grey tone that would have worked well.

And Spidey transitioning to a black costume in the third film is not just the producers saying "Let's make him black. If the fans can't handle it, that's their problem" - it's part of a specific storyline from the comics, part of which becomes the origin of another villain.

It does bug me, but someone pointed out how stupid REAL people look in brightly-colored spandex. Can you imagine Huge Actman in the bright yellow and blue Wolverine suit? They may have a point.

But Batman in another thing - I can't imagine why in the WORLD they never do the classic gray suit with a black cape and cowl.

But Batman in another thing - I can't imagine why in the WORLD they never do the classic gray suit with a black cape and cowl.

Yeah. I thought they might at least give a nod to that classic combination in "Batman Begins". At least go with a very dark (almost black) gray or show it in at least one scene as an early permutation. Or - maybe a scene where Batman is trapped in a burning building heavy with smoke and flame. The lighting could give the costume a gray/black or gray/blue tint - and Batman could employ white lenses within the cowl to protect his eyes and better see through the haze. It would be a great tip-o-the-hat to that iconic comic book image.
A fanboy? Who? Me!? :eek:

Yeah. I thought they might at least give a nod to that classic combination in "Batman Begins". At least go with a very dark (almost black) gray or show it in at least one scene as an early permutation. Or - maybe a scene where Batman is trapped in a burning building heavy with smoke and flame. The lighting could give the costume a gray/black or gray/blue tint - and Batman could employ white lenses within the cowl to protect his eyes and better see through the haze.I think having the black costume works well -- although I didn't think so quite as much with the two Keaton films, because I had trouble following the action with the black suit in night scenes. I do think it could also have been done in very dark blue and very dark gray. And I tend to think of Batman in the comics as actually having mirrored lenses over his eyes for myriad practical reasons. I understand why they chose not to do that on the screen, though it doesn't seem to hurt Spider-Man dramatically that the audience cannot see his eyes. On the other hand, I suspect that's why, in the second film, they contrived a reason for Peter Parker to have the mask off in the scene where he stops the train and during his final confrontation with Doc Ock (in addition to having it be the reveal of his identity to Mary Jane) -- the drama was enhanced by seeing his eyes and the struggle on his face in those scenes, especially in the train-stopping sequence.

Qapla'

SSB

Yeah. I thought they might at least give a nod to that classic combination in "Batman Begins". At least go with a very dark (almost black) gray or show it in at least one scene as an early permutation. Or - maybe a scene where Batman is trapped in a burning building heavy with smoke and flame. The lighting could give the costume a gray/black or gray/blue tint - and Batman could employ white lenses within the cowl to protect his eyes and better see through the haze. It would be a great tip-o-the-hat to that iconic comic book image.
A fanboy? Who? Me!? :eek:

They also missed the opportunity to give Batman white eyes during the Scarecrow and later Gotham citizenry hallucinatory scenes. That would've worked very well as a nod.

José

If you ax me, the leathery blackness of it all began with Emma Peel.........yeah, baby.

They also missed the opportunity to give Batman white eyes during the Scarecrow and later Gotham citizenry hallucinatory scenes. That would've worked very well as a nod.

José

Agreed. I imagined an opportunity to show a monsterous morphing of every major era of Batman during The Scarecrow's hallucination - from Sprang to Infantino to Adams to Miller to Bolland, etc. Done right, it could have been creepy and referential.