Take a look at the new rtr pan car. The Revolution. The car comes fully assembled with body tires wing and electronics. All you have to add is battery, charger, aa batteries and paint. The car runs really great. I have been racing it for about two months and have won and currently hold the track record in 4 cell trucks. The intro price is 349.99. Take a look.
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Now THAT'S an entry level division!

Who makes it?

try the swap and sell area

It is a division of the Hobby Connection. The info is in the pic. As far as the 4 cell truck being a entry level class it is not. It is one of the most hard fought classes we have every week.

$349.00 is a little hefty for a basic car :confused:

I realize its RTR but its enough.

Just my 2 cents

R.S.

Guys, this car is for real, great entry level car and ready to run with John's BSR Spec tires, (rubber or foam) Bandit body, BRP wing, Spec Motor , With Radio and Speed control. Car is fully upgradeable and is fast out of the box.

A few months ago people were saying we need a ready to run pan car and it will get more people involved in oval racing. Well here it is.

All the tracks should have these cars in stock and if they are smart they would have one or two ready for some one to try out when they come in!!!!!If you can get a radio in there hands for a little while they will be hooked and want to buy one!!!!!Hacksaw

$349.00 is a little hefty for a basic car :confused:

I realize its RTR but its enough.

Just my 2 cents

R.S.

I'd have to agree. Is this a suggested retail? When you can buy a new RC10GT RTR for $280 (XXXT RTR 2 for $260), unless someone is REAL interested in oval.....which is going to more appealing.....oval......offroad?

I work in the local hobby shop and we have 3 tracks on site. Asphalt oval, Asphalt touring track and offroad. Offroad has the most interest but the oval has just about as many. We saw the need and then did something about it. All of the components are top quality and no one will be sorry for buying the car. It may not be graphite but do you need that to get started. Jason

The price of a RC10GT is 299.99 and the price of a Ofna buggy is 349.99. The price is right in line with all the other rtr cars. Have you priced a new oval car lately. You can't buy a kit for a KSG or Hyperdrive for less than 300.00 and all you get is the car. If you get someone looking at getting into oval and they see a car for 300.00 and they still have to add all the other stuff to get started it just scares them away. Now with the Revolution you can be on the track racing for under 400.00. You just can't do that with any of the other cars. You will spend 700.00 to 800.00 to get going with the others. Jason

I like the idea hopefully I can get my hands on a couple to give them a shout............

Justnitro you have a PM

The car really looks great justnitro! RTR is a concept oval has needed for some time. The price does seem high-AT FIRST GLANCE, but if you think about the individual costs of pan car items these days its really not for a brand new out of the box oval racing system. Heck a new set of the BSR's is about $70.00 alone!!!!!

It looks like its very upgradeable as well-which is key for continued competitive racing down the line. Will you offer one with a pre-painted body?


Either way I like it and I want one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maximus Guantanamo

It is a division of the Hobby Connection. The info is in the pic. As far as the 4 cell truck being a entry level class it is not. It is one of the most hard fought classes we have every week.

Most of the 'hard fought' classes I have ever seen ARE spec classes. A level playing field will yield some of the best competition. Even for a newbie.

Good job Jason!

great idea! will there be a choice of foam tires or capped tires, where I race we use foams.

Just got off the phone with David and yes there WILL be a choice in foams jsut not at this very moment.............

Maybe ARCOR should develop a new class for beginners and call it "Revolution". Sounds like a great way to get truly new folks into the oval fold. Any of you ARCOR folks listening?????????

Maximus

The price of a RC10GT is 299.99 and the price of a Ofna buggy is 349.99. The price is right in line with all the other rtr cars. Have you priced a new oval car lately. You can't buy a kit for a KSG or Hyperdrive for less than 300.00 and all you get is the car. If you get someone looking at getting into oval and they see a car for 300.00 and they still have to add all the other stuff to get started it just scares them away. Now with the Revolution you can be on the track racing for under 400.00. You just can't do that with any of the other cars. You will spend 700.00 to 800.00 to get going with the others. Jason

Not to be rude and I applaude what your doing with this car but. You're kidding right? You're comparing a 1/10 RTR nitro car (priced here at $280) with engine, radio gear, glow igniter, and fuel bottle to a fiberglass chassis car with radio gear?? Yes I have seen the price of oval cars and if you ask me they are grossly overpriced (let the flames begin with that statement). How in the world can the fiberglass car justify being $70.00 more when compared to the GT? Don't get me wrong I hope you sell a boatload of them and I wish you luck but when comparing prices between a RTR pancar (flat chassis, fiberglass in this case) and other RTR cars that have many more parts...........why is the pancar so much more? May your venture be profitable for you truely. :thumbsup:

I have seen this car run and run it does.Granted it was in the hands of an experienced driver but to me that proves it has all the stuff to be a perfect entry level race car.
8 years ago I bought a Legends car from a HobbyTown store. I was new to R/C ,never owned or drove a car before.By the time I bought motor,batteries(at least 2 to race)a decent charger, a radio,esc and cap tires. I recieved some change from my 300 dollar bill.The price may sound like a lot but if you bought an L4 today then all you would need to race it,well you see where this is going.
This is perhaps the Legend car of our racing future. Classes for this car could be endless ranging from box stock to whatever the local track wants to offer.
I wrote an artical in R/C Car Action in Feburary 2004 (on page 26) to Pete Vieira addressing the lack of an RTR Oval Car.Pete says their wasnt enough interest. Well this should generate some interest.....kf

........The price may sound like a lot but if you bought an L4 today then all you would need to race it,well you see where this is going.
T


Fact of the matter is, that if you go with entry level equipment, such as what is included with this kit , you could get a L4 instead of a fiberglass chassis for about $400.

I think it is great that someone is trying to come out with an entry level RTR kit but I agree with the statements above that it's going to have to be less cost. Good luck with this I hope it takes off for you.

RC

I think 350$ is more than reasonable. When I started oval a few years ago I bought an L4 and got more or less the cheap electronics to go with it. Still was close to 500$. Plus there was the time involved with building it (which is actually one of my favorite things and the reason I will never buy an RTR). Someone mentioned the tires being BSR and costing 70$, subtract that and you have a car with electronics for 280$. That is less than a Pro 3 kit. Who cares if it is fiberglass? Graphite does three things: (a) costs more; (b) looks better; and (c) is lighter so you are able to compensate with lead weights. Personally, I hate RTR's, but I acknowledge that it could be a great way to expand oval participation so I wish you the best.

Just priced out a L4 from Tower and the cost comes to just a shade under 480 bucks.

The Hobby Connection saw the need for a RTR Oval Car and designed one, enough said!! I didn't see any other major company's do it when it was brought up a while back when the Legends died.

The Hobby Connection saw the need for a RTR Oval Car and designed one, enough said!! I didn't see any other major company's do it when it was brought up a while back when the Legends died.

HEAR HEAR,The oval manufactors really missed the boat on this one,they've missed out on an entire segment of oval,the entry level driver,I hope David makes a killing on this thing, he deserves it for going the distance.After talking to him today sounds like it really getting a ton of interest,and the HS's and racers are beginning to take notice as well as placing orders.By the way, the Revolution set a new track record today topping last weeks track record run,if I understand it right it holds the track record now by over a lap,pretty impressive for a RTR.

DAVID7500/Maximus: ARCOR is paying attention, trust me. I am no doubt one of the biggest advocates of Spec Type racing. But before I can make this an ARCOR class I must take a wait and see attitude for a couple of months..WHY?

1. I need to know this is going to be an on-going car, not a flash in the pan with a minimum being sold nationwide.

2. If I do make this a viable Spec class, this is what would have to be the criteria. The car MUST BE RAN as it's sold. Additional hop up parts or upgrading of any sort would require the racer to move up to the 4C Spec class. The only exception I might consider is a radio upgrade to an Airtronics MX-A2 (AM or FM) or a radio of equal proportions. No $400 radios, if so, again the racer would have to move up to 4C Spec. We all know what effect a radio with all the bells and whistle adjustments can do for the handling of a car.

3. I would like to see a standard in gearing, like the Legends rules. Set a specific spur gear and allow maybe 3 pinion choices.

4. I want to watch and see how many tracks screw up the class with their own rules. Such as allowing graphite chassis, triple shock upgrades ETC.ETC.ETC. When this happens then you can bet your bottom $$ that the track hot shots will be running it to win "AT ALL COSTS", thus putting the new guy or just the guy that wants to have fun (like the Legends used to be) down 5 laps.

As for the cost of this car. I find it very competitive. One has to consider that this is not a company like Associated making the car, thus their cost to manufacture it will be greater than a company like Trinity or Associated. I do give them a big :thumbsup: for even trying this venture and wish them GREAT SUCCESS! ARCOR would love to see a class such as this be part of the ARCOR lineup. I think this type of class can be open to anyone, from the experienced to the new guy, AS LONG AS IT'S CONTROLLED like the Legends used to be.

I Hope This Takes Off Like An Uncontrollable Habit................

There has always been alot saying this needed to be done, but never got off there butts. I agree the price is just like stated by JB. A smaller company cannot compete with big shoes. I would have like to seen a tad better radio from the start.But you had to get on the market and i applaude that for becoming a reality not just I wish it would happen. May it prosper and grow Like Kudzu.

JB,

Maybe a way to go is to get with David and come up with a set of rules,and include it in with the car.I understand what your saying but get a set of rules for this class and leave them alone,tracks and Arcor alike.Just like now with the super spec class,we're supposed to be running spec tires and some tracks have elected to go with open tires,not good,we started with open brushes and Arcor (or someone) started fiddling with the brush rule,leave it alone,brushes aren't a major performance or cost factor,imop.

I have expierience with the python radio that is pictured with the kit and it is not up to the task of racing.It worked fine in the backyard but in race conditions it glitched.We had three of them and all of them did the same thing.Crystals are 20 bucks a set and everyone we got had channel 83.

It would be very disappointing to for people to give up because of a poor radio choice.I like the rtr Idea but would warn people not to buy that radio.

my $.02

The radio is more than capable of racing and has no glitching problems. We would not have put them in the cars if there was a problem. The good thing about this radio is the fact that it has dual rates. These are all on 27mhz. The crystals are less than 15.00 a set and that is for 27 or 75mhz. Jason

Does the car come with a speed control?

I am working with a local hobby shop who wants to put in a flat ashpalt track and start racing. He currently has an 18th scale off road track and most of his business in nitro trucks and buggy's.

I used that radio back when Legends first came out, the race track was selling those along with the legends car.

Looks like you did a good Job! Hope it works out for you guys...as for the rest of you??? Give him a break! After all he is trying to do something here!

Does the car come with a speed control?

I am working with a local hobby shop who wants to put in a flat ashpalt track and start racing. He currently has an 18th scale off road track and most of his business in nitro trucks and buggy's.

I used that radio back when Legends first came out, the race track was selling those along with the legends car.

Yes! it is a true RTR.

I like it! I am in the process of opening another hobby shop that will offer flat asphalt track racing and you can bet they will be on my shelf!

We had the 75mhz.

All I know is we had three and I had to replace all of them.

Good Luck
ALex

Wish you much luck with this car.

It has everything but the battery, charger and paint for the body. As with any other rtr, electric or nitro you still have to buy somethings. Fuel, glow ignitor, fuel bottle. IN electric you have to buy battery and charger. The Revolution has everything that you need other than battery, charger and paint as stated before. Jason

JustNitro:
Don't take this wrong but how can this car be a RTR (ready to run) when a person still has to buy batteries, motor and other assorted stuff. The car should be called an ARTR (almost ready to run).
The reason I state this is I have seen to many people purchase a RTR, take it home and realize it is not RTR, and that they still need other parts before they can enjoy their new toy.
I believe that you have a great idea and wish you the best of luck, but please don't call it a RTR unless a person can open the box, and put it on the track and run.
Just my opinion. :thumbsup:

"RTR" just means it doesn't have to be assembled,means nothing about you don't have to buy additional stuff,just like any other RTR.Geez

Yeah, don't ya know you are suppose to include a battery, have it already charged, installed and it should be turned on!!!! ;) Geez!

Lets hope that the race organizations/tracks don't muck it up. Your pricing is reasonable and tracks could also use them as rent-a-racers. Thanks for having the guts to produce this car. :thumbsup:

There is no true ready to run made by anyone but they are sold as such. I don't care if it's electric or nitro, you gotta buy something else for it before it will be "ready to Run".JustNitro:
Don't take this wrong but how can this car be a RTR (ready to run) when a person still has to buy batteries, motor and other assorted stuff. The car should be called an ARTR (almost ready to run).
The reason I state this is I have seen to many people purchase a RTR, take it home and realize it is not RTR, and that they still need other parts before they can enjoy their new toy.
I believe that you have a great idea and wish you the best of luck, but please don't call it a RTR unless a person can open the box, and put it on the track and run.
Just my opinion. :thumbsup:

Yaaawwww... just trying to keep things light and have a little fun ;)

Life is good!!!!!

It's about time somebody got this RTR pan car off the ground. It took a lot of time and planning. I hope it sells well. I don't think the $349 is out of range! Look at what most RTR offer for a radio (AE has the worst!!) and the closed endbell (P.O.S. motors). This RTR seems to offer good starter equipment and not junk.

I strongly agree for it to be successful it must have a very strict rule book just like the legends. No hop ups, spec batteries, spec tires, 2 or 3 pinion options etc. Don't let other tracks or dirver infulence changes once rules have been established. The rule ammending killed legends. Some tracks allowed bearings, some allowed turnbuckles, any tires, then any batteries. Everybody had there own rules and nobody from other tracks could race without changing back to stock parts or buying upgrades.

I disagree about the radio. Some people may want to upgrade for comfort or to have a wider range of channels. 27 band has the fewest channels and the cost of a Spektrum has dropped to $130 bucks (not too bad for an upgrade). Less chance of the new driver leaving his/her radio in the pits interfering with the other car on the same freq. It's not supposed to happen but we all know it does or will.
The radio doesn't win the race. The pilot behind the wheel does. Granted there are steering speed, exp's and stuff like that that may help a new driver drive smoother and be less darty etc. I am not familiar with this JR radio that is in the kit to know what tuning options it has to help the new driver.


Someday brushless will be a low cost option to make the cars even closer in speed. It's very difficult to get brushed motors equal due to mfg. tolerances. Right now it isn't feasable to offer a low cost BL system.

:dude: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :wave: :thumbsup:

Good things to come with this kit,,,, I am a believer.........

great remote!! dont know why some are dissing it. i run it in my tc, in stock class!!

I need dealer information ie: Price, parts list and rules if there are any. Please send to GTOCK1000@aol.com

Contact David Vinson at The Hobby Connection (864) 295-1209 he can hook you up with every thing you need to know. All replacement parts are hanging on the wall, so I know he has those.

Thanks!