View Full Version : Traxxas Elec. Stampede? #3
tommckay 03-07-2006, 09:12 AM An extenuation of the previous thread, good information available on the old one at: http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=82669
Along with the great info is colorful and witty banter by the regulars of this thread, Read away, be amused, befuddled, & informed.
The Stampede is a great truck.
tommckay 03-07-2006, 09:17 AM So now that this has begun.....
Yeah Chris let me know if there is another one going on, can't say if I could make the trip, but you never know!
Peter, Bill, & all other interested parties, please check in when you see this!
Thanks Tom for doing Hanks homework.
Got to go, building a house and the rain has stopped. I'll check in tonight when my mind is still awake but my body has stopped moving.
tommckay 03-07-2006, 10:14 AM LOL! I know what thats like, Mind awake but body not moving thing....
ChrisHarris 03-07-2006, 11:47 AM Building a house Bill? Curious minds want to know. You can tell me off-line. Unless it is for your r/c's! Then you have to tell everyone.
When your driving your 500th nail of the day you wounder if your arms or hands will ever work well enough again to control an RC. And of course just thinking about driving or flying your RC instead of what your doing at the moment so you can hit your thumb one more time.
Building a house? In 1993 the county said that we could not make any more improvements to the facility until we met their fire code standards. The problem was the island does not provide enough water volume or pressure. So years after many trips around the sun and 2 million bucks later we meet code. The first building permit we pulled was for an addition on Mark's place. So starting mid January we have been working on it as much as possible and hope, no, must have him living in it by the end of April.
As of today we started walking on the wood floor of the new addition.
Take care guys.
ChrisHarris 03-07-2006, 11:23 PM That is one expensive house! I hope meeting those codes goes to more than just getting to build. Peraps it has something to do with keeping those campers safe. Nah, forget I said that. They are boy scouts. They can take care of themselves. ;)
When you are out on the island, I guess it is a bit tough to rent an air compressor and nail gun for the day/week, huh? Watch those thumbs. You will need them someday!
Yeah, the camp ended up with a lot more than just meeting code. We ugraded all our underground utilities, installed a 150,000 gal. water storage tank, and a fire pump and monitoring system.
All the effort and expence gives us the ability to completly rebuild all the camp structures. Including a new dining hall.
I still day dream about including a RC track on the property. There are so many different options around here, like the closed tight track I set up two years ago, or an open more off road style track.
I've got a question for you racer types. How far is too far away from your truck? In other words, when do you feel that the track has gotten to far away for you to control it? I've got a location that would let you stand 10 feet above the ground that lets you see and drive your truck over 300 yds. away in two direstions. For me with the truck 50 to 70 yds away I start to lose perspective.
tommckay 03-10-2006, 09:23 AM I'm a Racer type! LOL!
Well I think you just answered your own question! How far is too far? Far enough that you lose perspective. So for you 50-70 yards.
I've raced at alot of differtent style tracks, and 50-70 yards is a LONG way! Not a long way if your out freestyling with no set course to follow, but if you're racing and trying to keep it between the tubes it is too far. I'm not totally sure on Measurements but the largest track I've raced on was like 80'x120' or so, which is a huge track for electric racers, I've heard some gas tracks are bigger though. But the farther you let the car get away in racing, the wider the lanes need to be. Common lane width is 8-10' with 12' or better way out. If you get 50' away fron a 8' lane and stand on a 4' drivers stand, that 8' lane looks like 2'. Since you live on a darn Island I think any track you build would be mostly for you and your kids with a friend thrown in periodically so make one that YOU can drive on styled the way YOU like! If that means tight and twisty, good. if it means long, flowing, high speed, thats good too. Just have fun with it! wether it be big air jumps or just desert style.
tommckay 03-10-2006, 09:37 AM BTW, I sold my XXX BK1 and have bought another XXX-t MF2 to replace it. Gonna go back to "trucking" exclusively.
This Saturday (tomorrow) is the last race of the season for my favorite indoor track, it's a "fun run" for the points winner announcements & give-aways. I've decided to race the Stampede in the stock truck class since I won't have my new (used) MF2 yet. I'm going to race it with the big 'ol All-T's on it too.... No Racing tires. Gonna see who I can beat with it!
ronbeck 03-13-2006, 03:47 AM well hi everyone.
just notriced the new pede forum! hehe nice to see some activity going. we have had a fun/strange week! lost power most of monday(8:30am-2:30pm) and wednesday night (3:45-miodnight). then we had a freek thunder lightinghail snow storm on friday. about 3 inches of hail and some snow with huge sumnmer like thunder'lighting strikes. almost 3inches fell in less them a hour and almsot melted as fast as it came.
but i have been running my Bl pede again. it is great to have a almost 100% charge and run RC. with all the track tweeking on the rc18t and m-18 and figuring out when i can try and hit the track for some pro4 practice.. it's nice just to run. and we have just started are spring/summer sports events. Em is on 2 softball teams. one select tourney team and a regular little league team(wich i am one of the coaches of, went from helper to full time coach). and my wife coaches are son's coast baseball team.
and i added a losi mini-lst to tthe collection this last week as well. bought it as a used roller from a hawaiin rc'er i have know onlione for a few years. seems to be a nice upgrade in the mini basher area for me. tried to race it in stock trim plus sway bars..didnt go well but was funa dn jumps like a dream compaired tot he rc18t. hope to get some work done on the pede.
replce the shattered front bulkhead brace, rebuild the diff, decide if i want to try and make a longer wheelbase chassis out of 2 stockers, what wide pede front end i should try and build and what body i want to run on it. i have mounted some hpi body posts on it so the bodies dont flex so much in a wreck.
well i guess i have rambled, typo-ed and run on long enough.
really nice to catch up with you all!
-peter-
:D
tommckay 03-13-2006, 09:31 AM Raced my pede.... it was a blast! Had to change the motor and got the mesh wrong... ended up with a stripped spur. got that fixed and ran 2.5 qualifiers and finally stripped that darn Idler in the trans. I'll now upgrade to the aluminum one. The truck was way off the pace but I expected that with the big tires on it. getting them big'ol meats rolling is hard on the poor thing!
ronbeck 03-13-2006, 11:33 AM i still cant get over the fact that anyone can the all-t tire! mine are a waste of csah sitting in my tire drawer..:( i love the look and size of them. can you post a pic of them mounted? or did you already...but glad you had a blast!
-peter-
ChrisHarris 03-13-2006, 05:07 PM Hey all!
Just got back from our last ski trip of the year. Two days with on over night at the Mt. Washington Hotel. Very very fancy! Skiing was... well, we had fun but it has been a horrible snow winter and it showed. Lots of ice and grass and even some snow. I think of it as precision skiing. You know exactly what is there and where you need to go. And NOT go! A great time. Both days we decided to end the day just as it started pouring! Timing is everything.
Now that that is out of the way I can think of R/C and my bicycles. Jesse has Friday off so I might take the afternoon and take him to the track. he keeps talking about wanting to race again but without practice it would be silly. Of course he will want my BL. I haven't hassled him about it. yet. It is sort of a question of what motors I have to put into the Pede and/or the XXXT. Unlike Tom, I do have a set of race tires for the Pede. They aren't mounted yet- I keep dreaming of dying the rims rather than the boring white they came. Just haven't gotten an dye... They also are not the right tire. The track is now almost a blue groove track and all I have is step pins. It probably wont be long before they are worn down to where they will work on the track but... They have to be better than the M2K's that are on it now, both from a CG point of view and a traction point of view. We shall see if we make it out!
tommckay 03-14-2006, 09:30 AM http://images.snapfish.com/346557755%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E2344%3D%3C4%3B%3D599%3DXRO QDF%3E23238385%3B%3C464ot1lsi
This is the Pede as I raced it.
I do have real race tires for it, but I didn't put them on because I just wanted to have fun.... Which I did... until it broke! LOL! Actually I was suprised at the grip I had with the All-Ts on it, it actually handled pretty good for a top heavy bohemouth (comparitively speaking).
Peter, I know what you mean about being disappointed in the All-Ts, I like the size (although they may be slightly TOO big) and absolutely love the tread pattern. They offer real good traction on a variety of surfaces because they are fairly soft. But the foams inside mine are breaking down, the rears now have about 1/4" you can push down on the center of the tread before you actually meed the resistance of the foam. Fronts aren't as bad. And the worst part of the tires is balance.... The tires are so far out of balance the whole truck shakes if you get a full speed run going on.
Guys, Where do I get the Aluminum Idler at?
ChrisHarris 03-14-2006, 02:24 PM Guys, Where do I get the Aluminum Idler at?
Well, you could look here (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJJ94&P=Z) ... :)
tommckay 03-14-2006, 04:40 PM Duh... Thanks Chris. LOL!
How do you like having a picture of a stampede on the 1st page of the Stampede #3 thread! Kinda cool. (if not rare! LOL!)
ChrisHarris 03-15-2006, 02:14 PM Is that a Stampede? I had forgotten what one looked like. ;-)
tommckay 03-17-2006, 08:38 AM Well, I tore my trans apart on the pede and the Idler looks fine. I think I'll just have to order more diff gears and maybe go ahead and do the Idler while I'm at it. But I did find out my motor was locked up... one of the magnets broke in the motor can.
Since I had the trans apart I decided to try a little modification and dremeled away at the trans case and installed a metal motor plate I had laying around. After installation I have just enough room to gear it 15/87 (decent gearing for the All-T's). It has the motor tight up against the trans case, but it works. Thinking of trying a different motor plate I have now, one that will offer a rear bumper.
Anyone else made this Mod?
ChrisHarris 03-17-2006, 12:23 PM I tore into one of my tranny cases to try to get a Losi plate to fit and I gave up and trashed the case. :rolleyes: I love the concept, especially from a heatsink point of view but the best-fit plate, (Traxxas Blue Eagle or somesuch) is long gone. I don't run it enough these days to worry too much. It would lok cool though.
tommckay 03-17-2006, 04:40 PM I'm using an old Losi plate, Not sure where I got it from, but it's flat... Possibly from a XXT. I did it because the slots on the plastic were getting torn up and making it hard to get the mesh right. I'm going to see if the plate drom a JRX-T can be made to fit because it has a bumper built in. That way it would be more like the one in RCMT & not have a naked motor sticking out the back.
I'll take some pics as I go for ya.
Real 'Pede Talk.... wow!
ronbeck 03-22-2006, 01:15 PM a track friend gave me a great little heat sink that goes on th outside of the motor motor. the bad thing is that i dont have enough room for it to fit behind the spur on the pede though :( man just as th epede thread lives i dont get emails, and i forget to check here...sniff sniff
i still havent replaced my front bulk head brace. i found one in my parts tub. and even got it out. but the micros are eating up my time. built a new adjustable gear diff for onroad M-18 and did soem adjusting on the m-lst. tok it out and sheered off my new hard to find body posts and cracked a rear knuckle lol hehe
well hope to top off the batts fro the pede and run it a little....if the weather holds or even dries up a little more.
tom thanks for the pic!
who here has doen a wide pede conversion? and what one did you do?
the rpm losi lxt arms, rear pedes or a 3rd option????
thanks guys
tommckay 03-23-2006, 10:16 AM Saw a wide pede conversion using HPI Rush front arms. I have yet to try the Wide Pede conversion.... I even have a pair of Losi LXT front arms to use (which I've heard work well) but just haven't put the time in yet. I probably will eventually, the difference in the rim offset front to rear has always bugged me a little.
My Tranny parts should be here today I think so I'll be able to re-build the pede and get the pics done.
Oh yeah, the motor plate I used was off of a XXX-t original trans, not the MF2.
ronbeck 03-23-2006, 11:44 AM Hmmm......
i do remeber the rush A-arm conversion....the only reason i wan to do the conversion is becouse of the offset of the wheels...not a huge fan of the stock style pede rims..and i still may want to go to maxx rims on it. i have clod rims but passed on a clod-O-pede...
thansk for the info tom....
ronbeck 03-24-2006, 11:32 AM Tom,
do you rember what site had the rush conversion part numbers?
think i found my project for next weekend.........
tommckay 03-24-2006, 04:57 PM No site, it was a guy at the last race I was at, he saw me racing my Pede and stopped in my pit with his Pede did the conversion on with the Rush Arms.
Heres a link to the arms: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVK07&P=OW
ChrisHarris 03-27-2006, 12:04 PM My wide Pede conversion used the Losi arms. The first arm took a while in that I needed to narrow it a bit to hold the C hub and I was n't sure how much. The second time around though the dremel got it done in a minute or two!
I found it much more stable but also it allows you to run the same rear rims on all four wheels opening up lots of choices. I might even have some photos of the job but I am not at MY computer to even look. This work thing gets in the way
ronbeck 03-28-2006, 02:16 PM thanks for the info. i will see what my lhs can get fast.
misbehaven's old site had some rush a-arm info on it. but not much. i was leanig that way but with the lower shock mount on top of the arm i would have to get new shocks. and the rpm arms seem to last forever.
i will let you guys know when/if i get it going.
ChrisHarris 03-29-2006, 12:02 AM Found a few old shots of my conversion. This one is nice as it shows the Losi shock set-up as well.
ronbeck 03-29-2006, 12:10 AM Found a few old shots of my conversion. This one is nice as it shows the Losi shock set-up as well.
thanks for the pic chris.
should help me stay focused on the goal!!! :D
i need the help these days. our night off from ball was filled by filling in for some no show parents off my son's team. our league is a 100% donation driven wether it's time or money. and my wife and i can find time to coach but they cant find time to show up for a practice or to help with the things that make money(working in the snack shack for couple of hours) for the league.
well i am off my soap box!! hehe
later
-peter-
I just had to log on to see Chris's picture. So I thought I would say hello to all of you.Hope all is going well....
tommckay 03-30-2006, 09:20 AM Well, well, well. I got my parts and re-assembled the truck (forgot to take any pics!). Charged a pack and went out to goof off. Had the slipper locked down for the first time since I got the truck (new aluminum Idler so what the heck!) and now I know what everybody means by "wheelie monster"!!! Even with those big All-T's on it it would lift and put itself on its lid in a heartbeat. it was actually kinda fun, I was actually able to ride the wheelie a little after a little "trial & error". But alas, I ran it up on the curb and goosed it in an attempt to climb up and it was evidentally too much for the outdrives. I broke one. Bummer.
So now I have another parts order on the way, but I went ahead and ordered some HPI Rush arms as well to do the wide pede conversion. (I found out I don't have the LXT arms I thought I did) And while I was at it I ordered the new Pro-Line Moab 2.2 truck tires & 4 front rims. Gonna be stylin!
I decided to go for the new tires because the foam in the All-T's..... well...... SUCK! There is probably a good 1/3" breakdown in the foam of the back tires. The tires are great but the foam really stinks. I think the Moabs look cool too so those will be my Wide Pede tires.
ChrisHarris 03-30-2006, 02:10 PM Ah the good old days of multiple orders to Tower! I don't miss those at all, thank you. Having all but given up on my poor trucks I am thrilled at how much money isn't hemorraging to the hobby. It goes elsewhere, I assure you.
I keep hoping to get back into it and for that reason I still have tons of parts and stuff. I try not to think of the dollar value though. I just think of it as clutter. :p
tommckay 03-30-2006, 08:00 PM I'm hoping that will be the last $$ I spend on the pede in a while, I'm gonna re-adjust the slipper to my liking & then just run the snot out of it this summer up at the campground!
tommckay 04-04-2006, 09:07 AM Well, my parts came & I got the Pede up-n-runnin' again. I did the Wide-Pede conversion using the Rush front arms. A little more involved than I had thought it would be, But I got it worked out in my own way. It now sits wide on new pro-line Moabs, looks kinda badass!
The biggest problems I had with the wide conversion was shimming & Tie Rod length. I had to shim the arms & modify hingepin length because the stockers were too short. My big idea on Tie Rods went to crap because the ones I had on hand were either too long or too short for the traxxas rod ends. I ended up using Losi Ball studs & Ball cups on the stock rods, but it worked well.
I think I'm going to have to gear it up a tooth now since the Moabs are smaller diameter than the All-Ts.
ChrisHarris 04-04-2006, 03:19 PM Ah yes, the linkage problem. That took me quite some time to get "right". I finally nailed it when cruising the LHS discount bin I found a set of old Maxx steering links. Titanium, of course. The fit perfectly! That plus the Ti camber links add that 'bling"! Initially I tried the HPI links and I folded them up so badly it was sad. I guess it is better than breaking steering blocks but she didn't run so well with the links folded in half. :freak:
tommckay 04-04-2006, 03:41 PM See, that was my thought, I had some Lunsford rods for a Maxx I was gonna use, turns out they were for the widemaxx. I must have gotten rid of the stock maxx rods I had when I put the Pro-Line wide kit on my old narrow maxx way back when. The perfect spacer for the inside hinge pin was a losi shock piston.... Go figure! :freak:
ronbeck 04-05-2006, 02:55 AM tom sounds like it tuned out good. no rc for me. i bought a new 18th scale micro track last week at the track. adn the next morning while taking the kids to school in the truck i am barrowing from my dad, it broke down in th emiddle of the drieway to the school! d'OHHHHH lol
got it towed, figure out the issues(S)(bad plugs, wire with missing insulation and a no ground). i bought parts to fix it friday. spent saturday with the wife lookign for a new TV stand. the old one was damaged by a leaking hor water tank. and it took a long time to get it together. spent sunday changing valve cover gaskets and was going to replace the plugs and wires, but i got the wrong wires. my truck is a '73 gmc with small block 350. but has been upgraded to a '75 electronic egnition.
2 days later(today, we went to opening day of the M's) got it all fixed. minus getting two plug wires shortened. they are about 12 inches to long.....got to love the generic one size fits all plug wires kits they have for old V-8's. i got beat up working ont he truck but it's runnin ga 100x better. starts easy, run much quiter and take less pedle to get her moving.
hope to get my xray m18t built to marrow for a trip to the track thursday with the kids. i have pretty full micro collection. hpi micro Rs4, rc18t, m-18, m18t and the losi mon lst. the pede may get a run tomarrow night! :D they are building about 50 new homes behind we live. and they have a huge mountain of dirt that is calling hte Bl pede out ot play! i have some nice proline paddle tires that a friend gave me to try out.
forgot to order my rpm lxt arms. but got one of my drifter bodies today though. it's a toyota corolla or tureno AE86 for my pro2. waiting fo rone for my mirco as well. if you guys get bored and need some more off topic talk you should check out a thread at one18th.com it's the monster hang out thread in the off topic area. bunch of cool folks(like here) who have many different RC intersts and back grounds.
well later for now, wrote myself a note to order my new a-arms tomarow.
pics tom, pics ;)
tommckay 04-05-2006, 08:25 AM Well, I went out when I got home from work and used up the rest of the pack I had in it from when I broke the outdrive & got about 15 min out of it (pretty good for a partially used pack!). It's still a wheelie machine! need more slipper adjustment. Although it's really fun doing the wheelies! I definately need to go up to a 16 tooth pinion & get a gear cover though.
I'll get pics, I hope tonight.
Thinking of doing a breast cancer benefit race this Sunday, something I haven't done in years, a Carpet Stadium style race.
tommckay 04-05-2006, 09:39 PM OK, Pics.....
http://images.snapfish.com/34674%3C27%3A%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D3253%3E%3B5%3A%3E4%3A 8%3EWSNRCG%3D323363347%3A%3C%3A%3Bnu0mrj
With the Rush arms, notice the Orange Losi Shock pistons as spacers!
http://images.snapfish.com/34674%3C2%3B%3B%7Ffp339%3Enu%3D3253%3E%3B5%3A%3E4% 3A8%3EWSNRCG%3D32336334%3A2%3A64nu0mrj
The new XXX Motorplate & Losi Blue bumper
http://images.snapfish.com/34674%3C2%3B%3B%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D3253%3E%3B5%3A%3E4% 3A8%3EWSNRCG%3D323363347%3A%3C%3A9nu0mrj
tommckay 04-05-2006, 09:46 PM And now the other side of the trans
http://images.snapfish.com/34674%3C2%3B%3B%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D3253%3E%3B5%3A%3E4% 3A8%3EWSNRCG%3D323363347%3A%3C%3A8nu0mrj
And the bottom, I had to shorten the rear skid & dremel a slot for the blue bumper
http://images.snapfish.com/34674%3C2%3B%3B%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D3253%3E%3B5%3A%3E4% 3A8%3EWSNRCG%3D323363347%3A%3C%3A6nu0mrj
I know its dirty, But I had to play! And the beauty shot......
http://images.snapfish.com/34674%3C2%3B%3B%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D3253%3E%3B5%3A%3E 4%3A8%3EWSNRCG%3D323363347%3A%3C%3A7nu0mrj
Yea!!
ronbeck 04-06-2006, 01:14 AM thank you very much for the pics!
it looks like a fun beast!
bilding up my xray m18t now. going well. i have never built on eof the xray micros. but i do own 2. my m18 was a storedisplay so it was factory prebuilt. forgot hiw relaxing building new is!
tommckay 04-06-2006, 07:37 AM I ran a pack thru it last night and got the slipper adjusted so it only wheelies when I do an "R-D" or if I have great traction and nail it from a rolling corner after it's been runnibg a bit and has some heat in the slipper. I only have a 19 turn in it now, that's the hottest motor I've ever had in it. I think my ESC is good to a 16 turn. But I'd have to check on that.
Building kits from scratch can be very relaxing, and I find that odd. Seems like it would be somewhat stressful trying to get it "just right", but it's not. Must be a "Zen" kind of thing!
ronbeck 04-06-2006, 05:48 PM yeah it is wierd.
it's all together. trying ot get a old kan stick pack to charge. the chassis will not hold my 7cell i made for my rc18t.. not sure if the kans are up to a Bl motor runnin g6K kev and loads of torque....
trying to get to the track tonight and make dinner and coach softball practice.....it all looked so easy on papper when we were planning out the year!
i also sent out o micro lids to be painted. a 50's panel for my now shelf queen mini giant and the stock lid for the m18t. i am mad i havent goten the pede out to the dirt hill out back. but i am short Rxs. and i ahev been runninga bunch of cars/trucks at the track. so th epede is sitting without.. :( i bought a used futaba 2pl Tx for $20. so clear up some of hte radios i need to take with me. but i have added 2 or 3 runners since i bought.
ChrisHarris 04-07-2006, 08:34 AM I will have to check but I might have a receiver or two not in use I could toss your way. That's an AM, right? 75MHz? We have so many old radios it is stupid. Just taking up shelf space, especially since we aren't running these days. :rolleyes:
ronbeck 04-07-2006, 12:37 PM ahh i need AM 27mhz.
thanks for the offer chris.
ChrisHarris 04-07-2006, 03:40 PM Well, all I have (that I know of) in 27 is an old Traxxas receiver. Sorry.
ronbeck 04-08-2006, 12:44 AM Well, all I have (that I know of) in 27 is an old Traxxas receiver. Sorry.
that is cool. and thanks for th eoffer though. i do have a 75mhz Jr xr2, but i already have 2 Rx-s foir it. may sell it to get another 2pl or 3pm...not my favorit radios but i like htem more the old style Jr's. i would love a Z-1..but at almost $400 it's not going to happen! hehe :D
have a good weekend all.
-peter-
ChrisHarris 04-08-2006, 07:18 AM Brings me back to that post I made about the money pit that is R/C!
ronbeck 04-08-2006, 02:52 PM Brings me back to that post I made about the money pit that is R/C!
yeah....but i couldnt imagine what kind of trouble i would get into with out RC!!!
:D
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