It's that time guys to start a new Mississippi thread.

Guess I'll make the second post, how's the back Jones? I've got a call in to an electrician about the power service for the off-road, still waiting for the $$$ amount so I can cuss for a few hours about the cost.




Pearce Dickson

MELLO MELLO Pearce MELLO

still waiting for the $$$ amount so I can cuss for a few hours about the cost.


Pearce Dickson

Could run on Saturday. Wouldn't need any lights, just shade.LOL

We still need more power outlets, especially on the north side of the property.



Pearce

patriot, back's doing good, had the stitches removed today. start physical therapy in 2 weeks--still no lifting and no work for now. maybe next week I can start working half days.

Ya'll keep us updated on the offroad. Would like to run it if it's not on one of our
days. Do ya'll think you'd run it on Fridays too?

[QUOTE=B.A. Do ya'll think you'd run it on Fridays too?[/QUOTE]

More than likely, always be on Friday night.

The monster truck is running and looking for some offroad. I went with a new stock .21. I just finished breaking it in. I ran half a gallon through it this morning. I had it real rich and tried to keep the temp up around 150.

I have a feeling I will be wanting to run offroad more than oval due to my small engine size!

jones,
Are you still limited to the house? Are you able to get about much?
Can you ride for any distance?

Tommy

I can ride now. I went to the dragstrip last weekend and just hungout. Then got my stitches out this last Tuesday. I started driving some this week. I don't seem to have any problems riding.

The Dr told me to not do any offroad riding or 4-wheelers or any type of running. Just nothing high impact until I can start physical theropy and build thoes muscles up.

got any pics of the offroad? what time do yall start?

got any pics of the offroad? what time do yall start?

No pics yet. No off-road yet. Sort of a site under construction project.
Work in progress.

just wanted to let everyone know that me and a fellow racer were talkin' and he let me know that we can get 11.1volt lipos for around $36. a pack!!!!!!
You could truly run 1 pack all night, and not charge it.
no speedo made specifically made for rc cars to run 11.1 v yet but castle creation is working on one.

Lipo's have to use a certain charger unlike what we charge NiMh with. Doesn't that mean the money you would save on the Lipo's, you have to spend on a charger?
I heard some auto makers are starting to look into the Lipo's to.

yes you would have to get a charger for lipos, i have a triton $129.(great planes) not sure the exact price at the LHS, i think its a little lower. there are other chargers that will charge lipos only for less $$$, but the triton charges EVERYTHING lipos, li-ions, ni-cads,ni-mah, gell cell.

and yes it sucks to have to buy another charger.
i love the E-truck class like it is now!
but the batt thing is still going to be a problem there until we look at something like lipos. in other words something like these batts would give more power than anyone could put to the ground and do it for 3 heats and a 1 main
these are 11.1v so the novak wont run them. the 7.4 will but they dont really run as fast until the nimhs lose there edge. and i'm not sure how cheap you can get them for.

voice your opinion guys

we could all go to 7.4 lipos but that might cause problems when out of towners want to come play. along with having to buy a lipo charger and getting no performance gain.

i have plans to try to work the oval track next friday to start getting it into shape.

anybody wanna come run?

I don't run e-truck, but I would only suggest that the class be kept where if someone from out of town did come to race they would have a chance some how.

But then again when was the last time we had someone from out of town come and race on the oval in that class?

If you think about it, the out-of-towners that came from T-town quit coming soon after the brushless deal come up. Even ROAR has seen they cant run the two classes together without some bickering.

But to me the whole electric deal is going down hill. They come out with new batt's every year, which is good I guess, but it makes you have to buy the latest and greatest to keep up. Its all about the $$$ for the manufactures to keep shoving new cells/products every year. But thats what they are there for I guess.

You said there was a Lipo charger for $129, that could go toward a gas engine. Some engines run all year, with some TLC. I might buy a couple packs this year, but only if the ele. buggy class gets larger. Other than that, I'm looking at gas, as much as I hate to say that. I like electric, don't get me wrong, but it has gotten rediculous. If we are going to be a ROAR track and run their rules, doesn't that mean Lipo's are not allowed. Since they aren't approved.
I look to be a one-track-jack this year.LOL
And gas is more dominant here.

Tommy

But to me the whole electric deal is going down hill. They come out with new batt's every year, which is good I guess, but it makes you have to buy the latest and greatest to keep up. Its all about the $$$ for the manufactures to keep shoving new cells/products every year. But thats what they are there for I guess.

You said there was a Lipo charger for $129, that could go toward a gas engine. Some engines run all year, with some TLC. I might buy a couple packs this year, but only if the ele. buggy class gets larger. Other than that, I'm looking at gas, as much as I hate to say that. I like electric, don't get me wrong, but it has gotten rediculous.

Tommy
i agree with the batts getting expensive, i my opinion the high voltage lipos will give more power than you could use thus ending the battery war.(in theory) and cheap at around $36. buy one pack and run it till it duds out.

as for the gas your right, it starts to sound better don't it? thats partly why i posted this, i know youre looking for something else, and wanted to let everyone know what people are talking about in E truck. dont want any one buy an e-truck and a year or two things change in the class.

I don't run e-truck, but I would only suggest that the class be kept where if someone from out of town did come to race they would have a chance some how.

But then again when was the last time we had someone from out of town come and race on the oval in that class?

we could run them together.
i think the last guys from T-town that came over with some nasty modifed brushed motors did it just to spank us.

with the setups were talking about we could let ANY brushed motor on the track and it would be some good racing, and probaly come down to who could put the power down.

I think your gonna really open a can of worms by doing that. I would have to vote against it because of several problems. First your going to make it a Meridain ONLY setup. That means anyone running that setup there will still have to have more equipment to go to Jackson or T-town. There is no cost savings for some. Next is those new/old racers that purchase these items will have to "learn to put the power down". In the meantime it will run people off cause others would be breaking parts all the time and your back to square one in getting people to show up. I could keep going on and on but I don't want to turn into one of those that find all the negetivity in things like whats happend in the past.


Need to stand by the rule "KISS" Keep It Simple Stupid You need to have a class or classes that new or traveling racer can run without special equipment

i agree with the batts getting expensive, i my opinion the high voltage lipos will give more power than you could use thus ending the battery war.(in theory) and cheap at around $36. buy one pack and run it till it duds out.


With the batteries that are out now, from 3300 to the 3800's and 4200's out next year, the only people getting to use all the capicity thats in the cells, are mod racers(factory guys)
The last time I ran off-road, I ran 10 minutes after the race of 5 min. easy. 19Turn too. Still hadn't dumped or started to dump.
So I really don't see the point to have 5000mah batteries or whatever the Lipo's are. Or even the 4200's NiMh.

Need to stand by the rule "KISS" Keep It Simple Stupid You need to have a class or classes that new or traveling racer can run without special equipment

I like the way you think.LOL
Meridian diffinetly needs "NEW" and "OLD" racers to come out and build the hobby/sport back up to what it used to be.

Ya'll could always start out like we did, just use the ole "We just need racers to
support the track" and have an open electric class. That's how we're running
our onroad right now, run brushless, mods, and stock together. It's been working
real well so far, but I do realize once we get more racers you need seperate classes.
As B4 said there may be some bickering in the oval class, but it is much different than other tracks, and these classes do have an advantage over the other to some extent, but for offroad and onroad, I've seen RTR's win and high dollar mods/brushless win. Start getting racers first and see what
shows, then you can see which path you want.
That's my .02 worth, and I'll come run stock 27turn truck anytime if other racers don't
mind. :thumbsup:

Tommy keep that buggy thought open I still have that brand new Grand Motorsports HB30 latemodel in the trailer I want to get on the track sometime. I know Paul wants to get his sprintcar on the track too.



Something for everyone to think about is racing on Friday night helping or hurting attendence. I know that I would have a big problem being able to race on Friday nights and there is alot of other people that cannot get off work at 5 and be at the track early enough to get batteries charged and some laps in before starting.

Tommy keep that buggy thought open I still have that brand new Grand Motorsports HB30 latemodel in the trailer I want to get on the track sometime. I know Paul wants to get his sprintcar on the track too.

i think those kind of cars running together and the batt problem is what killed Buggy class in Meridian. most people didn't like to run them together.
as for the other you may be right there are a LOT of possible negatives but thats what i asked for.

With the batteries that are out now, from 3300 to the 3800's and 4200's out next year, the only people getting to use all the capicity thats in the cells, are mod racers(factory guys)
The last time I ran off-road, I ran 10 minutes after the race of 5 min. easy. 19Turn too. Still hadn't dumped or started to dump.
So I really don't see the point to have 5000mah batteries or whatever the Lipo's are. Or even the 4200's NiMh.
i agree that you can get nimh to run 10 min but
its the average discharge factor that is kicking peoples butts. after 4 min into a race you may not be putting out nearly as much juice as another guy with high dollar packs. we watched that happen all last year on oval. off-road may be a different story.

We ran mod buggy last weekend at Small Cars. Terry ran brushed motors, I ran Novak Velocity 6.5 with 1 1/2 year old matched "2400 NiCd" batteries and Terry and I turned 15 laps in the main. I ran 2400 stick packs the first 2 heats and did great too (had to adjust a couple things and put on different front tires to get it to come out of corners faster for the main). As far as me and my sons off road racing, brushless has made the expense of batteries and replacement brushes go DOWN. Had 7 mod trucks again. Had 9 stock trucks. Had 4 mod buggies. I've bought 2 batteries in the past year - a 2 pack of Orion 2400 e-maxx stick packs. $31.99.

I think the savings when Lipos really kick in is going to be maybe needing only 2 packs (one for backup only) and topping off between heats without even taking the pack out of the car.

My 2 cents (and experience thus far)

My main concern is that we need new racers in the sport.

B4, we're getting alot of new racers starting over here. This past weekend, I met
with three or four folks, and they all have e-buggies. We may finally be getting
a buggy class back together for the first time in a couple of years. I'll keep ya'll posted.

i agree that you can get nimh to run 10 min but
its the average discharge factor that is kicking peoples butts. after 4 min into a race you may not be putting out nearly as much juice as another guy with high dollar packs. we watched that happen all last year on oval. off-road may be a different story.

I know that when you cycle packs, look at the charger at the 4 minute mark, thats what you will use out of the pack, maybe 4 1/2 min or 300 seconds. A lot of people look at what the pack had over the whole discharge cycle, which is OK to. But with off-road or oval you only need 4 1/2 to 5 1/2 min. of 7.00 volts. 7.15 would be great. Once it gets into the 6's, they become practice pack like I have.

Tommy

Well, the never ending story has a new twist. Bates has decieded to sell the 1/8th scale..... which he has never ran and wants a T4 to run truck. With Mod truck making a come-back over here and if they are not running, there is always a stock truck class. So I guess the saying he has doesn't apply any more! LOL (remember.... F... dirt!) So I guess Pearce will be getting a call soon!!

Mark

I take it that the 1/8 scale is a X-ray?

Do you know how much he wants for it?

yes a XB8. he has someone that is suppose to buy it this weekend but the info, that i think is right, is a XB8 that is put together but has never had an engine in it, a adjustable motor plate ( think it was around $100-150) and a Jammin' ( i think) pipe for $500.00. Gatewood put the thingtogether for him but it has never even had electronics or an engine installed. Hejust decieded to go another route, i guess.

O my Gawd....I don't believe it.

Did he ever sell his buggy?

yeah, he sold the buggy to Joe Stalins. He saw one of the other guys that runs on-road with us show up with a truck and run mod truck with Joe and Blake. He liked the way it ran and there is always a truck class so he changed course.... again! LOL

Hey Josh. Bates said first come, first serve. If you want it call him at 601-832-3394. 75% built, includes adjustable motor plate and Legacy carbon fiber pipe.. 500 bucks buys it.

Hey Josh, can you pm me Reggie's cell number?

Tommy

You have been PM'd!!

Rainey,
I can't right now. 1/8 scale class in Meridian is too iffy. I was just wondering really.

Thanks dude.

Just got off the phone with Bates, he's got a lot of stuff for sale.

would like to put my 1/8scale on the oval

I know them 1/8 scales scream on our oval!

Over here the truggies run in the low 6 second laps. Might get some mid to high 5's with 1/8 scale. I dont think anything could be faster than 5 on rubber tires. Be tuff with foam tires. But that would be opening a can of worms.LOL

You know I thought about that the other night.

1/8 scale, foam tires, oval,,,,,,hummmm!!!

Sounds like trouble!

I think Pro-Line or TRC make foams for a T-Maxx. But its been awhile since I've seen any. Who's gonna be first.

It would have to be a heck of a tire to hold together.

i've been there and done that. it wont be me!!!!!

bill tried them last year on his revo and i dont think he had much sucess.

i had plans to work the track but something came up. i will work it next friday if its not to cold or going to rain. maybe we can start some racing again.

Ya, I remember when Bill tried those foams on the oval. They just never would hook-up it seemed.

B4, remember those foam tires that came in when you where working at the LHS? Bill bought those.