Blade Trilogy 18.5%
Underworld 15.9%
Interview with the Vampire 15.0%
The Lost Boys 10.1%
From Dusk Till Dawn 8.9%
Van Helsing 8.7%
An American Werewolf in London 7.2%
Bram Stoker's Dracula 5.6%
Teen Wolf 2.9%
Dracula (1931) 2.3%
John Carpenter's Vampires 1.6%
The Wolf Man (1941) 1.0%
The Howling 0.9%
Cursed 0.9%
Wolf 0.5%


The was a recent poll on www.comingsoon.net (http://www.comingsoon.net) which asks people to list their favorite WEREWOLF movies. The braindead youth of today voted the Blade Trinity as their favorite instead of the Wolf Man..A TRUE classic. I've officially given up on the youth of today. Complete morons.

Yeah, boy. Proof once again that our public education system is completely broken. How can a kid expect to be successful in life when he doesn't know the difference between a pure lyncanthrope and a semi-lycanthrope? I mean, what the hell are they teaching in science classes these days!!??

Here's a true story that got me going. It was right after the AFI announced their 100 top films of all time. I happened to be at Blockbuster (mistake) and noticed they had a big display of their VHS tapes that were on the AFI list. There on the display was King Kong.....the 1976 version by Dino DeLaurentis.

I angrily pointed out the mistake to the highly trained staff and I was met with blank stares.

Thank goodness my daughter knows her monsters!

Here's a true story that got me going. It was right after the AFI announced their 100 top films of all time. I happened to be at Blockbuster (mistake) and noticed they had a big display of their VHS tapes that were on the AFI list. There on the display was King Kong.....the 1976 version by Dino DeLaurentis.

I angrily pointed out the mistake to the highly trained staff and I was met with blank stares.

Thank goodness my daughter knows her monsters!

If you were born in 1985 and work at Blockbuster, the '76 version qualifies as a stone "Classic".

Face it WE are getting old. We remember the real classics, the kids today, well....

Maybe the teenagers thought weird wolf.

The only way to get them to watch anything in black and white involves strapping them to a theater seat and pinning their eyes open. Maybe play them a little Ludwig Van while we've got their attention. :thumbsup:

The movies have been getting worse as creativity, story writing, and actors all are replaced with software and effects. The studio exec's have been doing drugs and listening to fools so long as to be worthless. Even the remakes and re-hashes are horrid, which points to lousy directors and actors. These folks were picked by the drug damaged execs BTW.

The kids have been damaged socially by the junk on TV and even worse... Video Games, which remove creativity the longer the kid plays. Before technology, kids made up their own stories, and later in life some became writers. When Radio came along, at least you had to get the mental picture of what was going on - a form of creativity. TV has, with high viewing rates ruined the minds of lots of people, young & old. Very few 'kids' have skills any more, since they just 'have' to be at the soccer fields, instead of the model clubs (RR, RC, IPMS, etc). Parents are also to blame as most of the ones I've met are culturally stupid, and can't tell you the name of a black n white movie. Little emphasis is placed on the history of anything anymore, so the yoot's of today are bound to make all the mistakes again.

Actually if you put all the teens and adults from this country who actually HAVE a clue into Rhode Island, you'd still have enough room to fit Connectitcut in.

That's OK. My staff of youngins laugh at me about my ancient-ness, even though there's only a 9 year difference between the youngest member of my staff and me. But because I remember typewriters....

José

Actually if you put all the teens and adults from this country who actually HAVE a clue into Rhode Island, you'd still have enough room to fit Connectitcut in.
And as someone who works in Rhode Island, all I can say is...


DAAAAAAMMNNNN!!! :eek: :freak: :lol:

The only way to get them to watch anything in black and white involves strapping them to a theater seat and pinning their eyes open. Maybe play them a little Ludwig Van while we've got their attention. :thumbsup:


"Right Right Dear Brothers" ;) lol




John/Lonfan

Soccer's not a skill? And I'll tell you what, as a long-in-the tooth veteran of broadcast television who has found many of his traditional skills replaced by software, I find that the "yoots' of today" can run circles around me with their considerable computer skills and ease within "the digital environment". Today, one kid in Jr.high school with access to relatively cheap digital equipment can produce, shoot, write, edit, and do full sophisticated graphic animations on a video production that will technically be of broadcast quality - the same job that used to require the work of at least 8 or 9 grizzled veterans at a 50-fold monetary cost. They may not be smart about werewolves, but they're real smart about the practical tools they need to move forward in today's world.

I don't remember any werewolves in Blade. Must be in the 'doped while watching' version. ..and 2 & 3 ain't no good atal.

It's just further evidence that the dumbing down of society is alive and well. At least we can take solace in the fact that "Teen Wolf" didn't make the list. :rolleyes:

It's got nothing to do with "dumbing down" and everything to do with what you were exposed to. If you're 15 or 20, those films at the top of the list are the ones you are most likely to have seen. Local television's "Shock/Chiller/Horror Theater" only exists in the cathode haze of our collective memories. It tickles me that there's a pop-cultural chauvenism among us older "genre fans".;)

The studio exec's have been doing drugs and listening to fools so long as to be worthless. Even the remakes and re-hashes are horrid, which points to lousy directors and actors. These folks were picked by the drug damaged execs BTW.

It's ironic you should choose to blame drugs for Hollywood's creative problems. Given the corporate ownership of the studios these days the executive ranks are probably more drug and alcohol-free than at any time in the history of the industry. Indeed, when you consider that America's cinematic Golden Age began in the sixties and ended in the seventies, I think a strong argument could be made that drug-popping execs were a good thing -- at least in terms of the films they green-lit. Hell, I'll take Bob Evans over Bob Iger any day of the week. Coke and all.

People love to bitch and moan and complain about all the sequels and remakes the studios churn out, but the truth is that aside from comedies and slasher flicks those are the only films capable of finding an audience right now (consider last year's top ten B.O. hits, six of which were either sequels or remakes).

The studios have always been in business to make money, and they'll continue to push whatever sells until it stops selling. If America wants to know why it's being offered so many sequels and remakes, all America has to do is look in the mirror.

Oh yeah, gotta agree with that. Crap sells.

The poll asks for favorite vampire / werewolf movies whick explains some of the odd picks. I went ahead and put my vote in for the wolf man 41 as it is the best of the classics available to vote for. Perhaps if other bb members placed their votes there would be results that make more sence.

An American Werewolf in London
Blade Trilogy
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Cursed
Dracula (1931)
From Dusk Till Dawn
The Howling
Interview with the Vampire
John Carpenter's Vampires
The Lost Boys
Teen Wolf
Underworld
Van Helsing
Wolf
The Wolf Man (1941)


Of the movies listed that I've actually seen, my list of the the movies I enjoy most to least would go like this:

An American Werewolf in London
The Howling
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Dracula (1931)
The Wolf Man (1941)
From Dusk Till Dawn
Interview with the Vampire
Wolf



... and I ain't no teenager.

Not really a wolfman fan. But vampires!

Dracula's Daughter - 1936 - under-rated sequel and very atmospheric.
Nosferatu - the silent version.
Salem's Lot - with a very Nosferatu-like Mr. Barlowe.
Dracula - 1931
The Lost Boys - yeah, more style than substance, but the style is cool.
and any of the Christopher Lee/Hammer vampire films.

I'd say the "Golden Age" was earlier. Perhaps 1930's thru 1950's.

I'd say the "Golden Age" was earlier. Perhaps 1930's thru 1950's.

Both eras are referred to as "The Golden Age" but I know from which era the preponderance of movies I relate to come from. Which sort of gets back to the concept of what you are exposed to. For most of us, "Frankenstein" or "Dracula" or "The Wolfman" would be about as significant as "Gold Diggers of 1933" if it weren't for the evil medium of television and the overwhelming influence that it had on our young lives.

The only way to get them to watch anything in black and white involves strapping them to a theater seat and pinning their eyes open. Maybe play them a little Ludwig Van while we've got their attention. :thumbsup:

Or you could just colorize it but I'd bet they'd catch on when they saw the effects weren't CGI.

Let's face it, "Jurassic Park" spoiled it for everyone.

Jim

It's ironic you should choose to blame drugs for Hollywood's creative problems. Given the corporate ownership of the studios these days the executive ranks are probably more drug and alcohol-free than at any time in the history of the industry.

Are you sure about that? ;)

José

Peter Jackson said he was doing King Kong, so this generation could see it in color. I bought the colorized version of the original, and it is far better than the NEW one.

As for the Wolfman, to me the original is still good even now. As for the others, the more you try to improve, the more they failed.

The old ones, you had to use your imagination for the horror of it. Now you see it all, and the gore is more than I can take. Just like sex in movies, before the door was closed, now they don't have walls.

For most of us, "Frankenstein" or "Dracula" or "The Wolfman" would be about as significant as "Gold Diggers of 1933" if it weren't for the evil medium of television and the overwhelming influence that it had on our young lives.Are you implying that "Gold Diggers of 1933" is insignificant? I love those old Warner Bros. musicals with those great Busby Berkeley dance numbers! Who could forget Ginger Rogers singing "We're In the Money" in Pig Latin?

And no, I'm not gay!

Just like sex in movies, before the door was closed, now they don't have walls.I think sex in movies is a good thing. The more gratuitous, the better. For one thing, it usually looks a lot better than real sex.

There ain't nearly enough sex in movies these days. The "Golden Era" of the 60s and 70s had it all over today's movies in that department. You want scary and sexy? Watch "Don't Look Now" (1973). If that film was made today Sutherland and Christie would be wearing underwear in the lovemaking scene and the producers would film a happy ending after the first negative advance screening.

Personally, I miss the gratuitous female nudity of the '70s and early to mid-'80s... in any genre. Sometimes they would sneak a boobie shot just because. Heck, even Red Asphalt circa 1982 had a topless woman in it.

José

Seing the more recent American Werewolf and The Howling got such crappy numbers makes me feel old. And speaking of sex scenes, the Jenny Agutter shower & sex scene in American Werewolf to Van Morrison's "Moondance" is one of the best ever imho. Like I suspect many young men of my age at the time, after seeing it for the first time I immediately added a copy of Into the Mystic onto the surefire-make-out-music shelf.

*sigh* Susan George in Straw Dogs just flashin' 'em for the sake of flashin' 'em. ... :)

The was a recent poll on www.comingsoon.net which asks people to list their favorite WEREWOLF movies. The braindead youth of today voted the Blade Trinity as their favorite instead of the Wolf Man..A TRUE classic. I've officially given up on the youth of today. Complete morons.
It's just further evidence that the dumbing down of society is alive and well.
It's got nothing to do with "dumbing down" and everything to do with what you were exposed to. If you're 15 or 20, those films at the top of the list are the ones you are most likely to have seen. Local television's "Shock/Chiller/Horror Theater" only exists in the cathode haze of our collective memories. It tickles me that there's a pop-cultural chauvenism among us older "genre fans".Okay, now I'm confused (which, admittedly, isn't a difficult thing to accomplish). According to Matthew's post, these kids were asked to list their favorite WEREWOLF movies--not werewolf/vampire--WEREWOLF. Considering the fact that many of the films that made the top 10 have nothing to do with werewolves, I thought this thread was about how today's kids don't know the difference, or at least weren't paying attention to the original question when they listed their answers. S'plain please! :confused:

Okay, now I'm confused (which, admittedly, isn't a difficult thing to accomplish). According to Matthew's post, these kids were asked to list their favorite WEREWOLF movies--not werewolf/vampire--WEREWOLF. Considering the fact that many of the films that made the top 10 have nothing to do with werewolves, I thought this thread was about how today's kids don't know the difference, or at least weren't paying attention to the original question when they listed their answers. S'plain please! :confused:

www.comingsoon.net (http://www.comingsoon.net/) Look at the poll. That's not what it says. Even if it did limit itself to werewolf movies, you're still given a list of those specific titles to choose from.

Ignorant poll to begin with.
They don't even list one of the best werewolf movies.
DOGSOLDIERS!

I have fond memories of all the old classics.
And do love to watch them on occasion when I am in the mood.
But to be perfectly honest, I get bored with a lot of them.
There are only a few of the classics that really hold up well to repeat viewings anymore.

I have fond memories of all the old classics.
And do love to watch them on occasion when I am in the mood.
But to be perfectly honest, I get bored with a lot of them.
There are only a few of the classics that really hold up well to repeat viewings anymore.

This is why I haven't bought any of the box sets. With the exception of a couple of the Frankenstein and Dracula titles, they don't hold up to repeat viewing for me. Especially the "sequels".

It's ironic you should choose to blame drugs for Hollywood's creative problems. Given the corporate ownership of the studios these days the executive ranks are probably more drug and alcohol-free than at any time in the history of the industry.
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That's the only thing that can explain Alexander. Either Oliver jumped on the rehab train and can't direct straight, or he had a really good time on location.

That's the only thing that can explain Alexander. Either Oliver jumped on the rehab train and can't direct straight, or he had a really good time on location.


If he directed that movie straight, then it's completely unforgivable!

Its ashame that kids just dont know what ART is anymore, yet alone have a clue. Anyone can take a computer and make "Broadcast Quality" stuff, but to be able to CREATE a work of art, be it a classic MOVIE, MUSIC that will always be recognized & moving, a WRITTEN piece that stirs emotion, a meticulous hand built MODEL of any subject that can be appreciated for it intricacies, or a PAINTING that shows mastery of a medium & can start a discussion on wht it all means.
That's what really shows about not having a clue, that many have a mastery of the technical aspect of "modern tools", but may not have a mastery of the emotional aspect of those tools that can create something of true value, not just something. Thanks to our school boards for cutting out art & music programs from most of the curriculums.

Thanks to our school boards for cutting out art & music programs from most of the curriculums.

But then one needs to thank the taxpayers for not wanting to pay more each year which in turn makes the school systems have to cut programs like that.
You can also thank the oil companies for artificially inflating oil prices which has also created a BIG problem with school funding this year and most likely next as well, which then leads to cuts in programs.

Its ashame that kids just dont know what ART is anymore, yet alone have a clue. Anyone can take a computer and make "Broadcast Quality" stuff, but to be able to CREATE a work of art, be it a classic MOVIE, MUSIC that will always be recognized & moving, a WRITTEN piece that stirs emotion, a meticulous hand built MODEL of any subject that can be appreciated for it intricacies, or a PAINTING that shows mastery of a medium & can start a discussion on wht it all means.
That's what really shows about not having a clue, that many have a mastery of the technical aspect of "modern tools", but may not have a mastery of the emotional aspect of those tools that can create something of true value, not just something. Thanks to our school boards for cutting out art & music programs from most of the curriculums.

While I totally agree with you there should be more emphasis on the arts in school, I'm just not convinced that "the younger generation" is any less inclined toward art and culture than previous generations. Most of us were exposed to plastic models and classic monster movies due to specific changes in technology - specifically plastic injection molding and broadcast television. I love monsters and I love plastic model kits but let's not confuse generational pop-culture trends with art - although the two do cross-pollinate from time to time. Every generation does this, considers their own era superior to what comes after it and rails against "the youth of today". Our grandfathers did it, our fathers did it, and "the youth of today" will do it 20 years from now.

I just don't understand what's gotten into kids today...

;)

I just don't understand what's gotten into kids today...

;)

with their freaky hair and loud music!

"It's Middle-Age Man!"

Hooly-hoops...

... and the 23-skiddoos ...

Qapla'

SSB

"You kids today don't know how easy you have it. When I was your age, we didn't have any MTV! We had to hallucinate our own pictures to go with the music!"

"Oh, no -- Dad's going to bring out the blacklight posters and play the Iron Butterfly album again. . ."

Congratulations, you've all become old. Shaddup.





:tongue:

Why back in my day, we escaped monsters by running uphill in knee-deep snow....

Okay, now I'm confused (which, admittedly, isn't a difficult thing to accomplish). According to Matthew's post, these kids were asked to list their favorite WEREWOLF movies--not werewolf/vampire--WEREWOLF. Considering the fact that many of the films that made the top 10 have nothing to do with werewolves, I thought this thread was about how today's kids don't know the difference, or at least weren't paying attention to the original question when they listed their answers. S'plain please!
www.comingsoon.net (http://www.comingsoon.net/) Look at the poll. That's not what it says. Even if it did limit itself to werewolf movies, you're still given a list of those specific titles to choose from.I looked on that site but I couldn't find the poll, which is why I asked for clarification of the issue. Under these circumstances, I retract my original statement; this doesn't have anything to do with dumbing down. It's simply a matter of varying tastes in film. Who cares? I like what I like, and the kids are wrong. :tongue:

BTW, thanks Zorro! :wave:

Peter Jackson said he was doing King Kong, so this generation could see it in color. I bought the colorized version of the original, and it is far better than the NEW one.
Well, as a fellow Kiwi I suppose I should support Peter Jackson. But after sitting through 3+ hours all I could think was "I bet this guy couldn't make a movie without CGI". And I'm serious.
Every film he's made has had SPFX - stop motion and splatter makeup in his earlier stuff, then CGI in everything from Heavenly Creatures onwards.
Bet you dollars to donuts that he couldn't do a nice little flick such as The World's Fastest Indian. Which was also a Kiwi film, a true story no less, with a great cast (and a few inside jokes - the mayor in the film was played by the current mayor of that town :)).
Sorry about the ramble, but Jackson's stuff just leaves me cold. And I probably shoulda put this in a Kong thread...

Im not that old, being a Gen Xer on the early side (67), Im stuck in between two very different factions, the boomers, of which my parents are on the beginning egde of, group wise, & the Y's (one so called name). Your right, most of us were exposed to things because of tehnology, thats the point, it whats done with the technology that matters. Superior is a matter of interpretation, of course, as I find many things superior now to things back when (remember 8 track)? Ill continue later.

(Willow, looking at graffiti left by a parent who was behaving like a teenager due to magic candy)
"Kiss Rocks?" why would I want to ... OH! I see.

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