Since we talk about what we think is the best of everything, I thought I'd change things a bit by asking what in your opinion was or is the WORST sci-fi movie or tv show ever.
Mine's would have to be a show mid to late 80's show called Small Wonder.
It was about some inventor guy who builds a robot that looks like an eight year old girl. The production value was really bad, I remember the dialogue was ha ha cute awful and the theme song to that show which oddly enough is imprinted in my memory, was the whitest theme song I ever heard.
That was my worst, what is your's?

Dreamcatcher.

I hated that piece of...trash.

Worst sci fo show? Probably that one that was on a few years back on UPN. I think it was Canadian about a guy with a spaceship out looking for his son. It kinda had a Firefly/Andromeda feel, only crappier. "Starhunter 2300", I think the name was.

Oh, and "The Tribe". WTF is that show about?

I mistakenly ordered "Mission To Mars" on Pay-Per-View in a hotel one time. I demanded a refund the next morning. The desk clerk gave it to me - no questions asked. I'm guessing he had seen it too.

Worst Movies:

Waterworld- As a guy interested in both ocean travel and survival, I can't get past the movies incredibly stupid concept that 1)though fishman Kevin Costner can build a filter that can strain ammonia and salt from his own urine and build a boat that can do everything but fly and that 2)Bad guy Dennis Hopper can refine crude oil into gasoline, nobody on Earth can apparently remember how to boil and distill sea water. The whole "fresh water is precious" concept is ludicrous.

I Robot- Incredibly bad, even for a Will Smith movie.

Worst TV Show-Any of the current "I See dead People & Solve Mysterys" shows.

Geez, so many things to choose from. Unfortunately as a genre, I think, sci-fi has a disproportionately large number of clunkers. Some of these had their tongues firmly in their cheek, had no delusions of aspiring to be more than they were or, if needed, they made it worth the viewer's time by showing gratuitous nudity of the female kind. So because of that I'll disregard them and narrow the field a bit. IMHO, the worst movie-attempting-to-pass-itself-as-a-respectable-film award goes to "Armageddon." Worst score (c'mon, don't tell me you don't want to scrape your brain out with a dull pencil everytime you hear Aerosmith's version of "I don't want to miss a thing"), worst actor (B.Fleck), most insulting plot points, and the worst abuse of scientific principles ever. Not even the sight of Liv Tyler could save this turkey.

José

Worst show: The Starlost, the concept was great, the execution horrific. Looked like a highschool media club production. And the Ark? Well it did look realistic didn't it? As in it looked like something from Radio Shack.

Worst film: Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone. The makers should have been forbidden to make this thing.

Runner-up: The Intruder Within. Blatant Alien rip-off, prolly worse than Spazhunter, but it was made for TV, so it came in second.

If the topic was about TV movies it would be pretty much anything the Sci-Fi channel makes. They are all soooooooooooo bad each one is the worst one made.

Worst Sci-Fi TV Show: Space: 1999, a show that fell miserably short of its high aspirations with an utterly stupid and illogical premise, and the trippy, muddle-headed mysticism of many of the episode scripts. The money and effort spent on the sets, miniatures, and generally good production values only make the show's faults more glaring. Gene Roddenberry probably didn't know any more about real science than Gerry Anderson did (or Irwin Allen for that matter), but at least Roddenberry knew how to fake it!

I second The Starlost! Ugly & dull. Even with Keir Dullea!

Is no one remembering "Plan 9?"

Is no one remembering "Plan 9?"Well, that one's pretty much a given, isn't it? Not just the worst sci-fi/horror movie ever made, but one of the classic bad movies of all time!

That movie with Michael Rennie where aliens do something with Frankenstein and Dracula. Dracula vs. Frankenstein? Assignment Earth?

I'd say "Message From Space," a late-70s Japanese Star Wars ripoff, but it was one of those films that was so bad it was great. The entire audience MST3Ked it when we saw it in the theater.

Shows - so many... Earth 2, Power Rangers, .....

Movies - tons. All those TV movies starring Michael Pare (I think that's his name) are really poor. In fact most of those TV movies are lousy.

Also, Plan 9, Robot Monster, etc... are so bad they are actually enjoyable.

I think that's the trick. If you have no budget, crummy script, and lousy actors, don't try to make a good movie or show, It will stink. Make it bad on purpose and you will have a cult classic. LOL!

Guess Who (James at Work) :)

I'd say "Message From Space," a late-70s Japanese Star Wars ripoff, but it was one of those films that was so bad it was great. The entire audience MST3Ked it when we saw it in the theater.


And around the time of "Star Wars" - "Starship Invasions" and "Laserblast". I remember "Saturn 3" as being pretty bad too.

Earth 2, Buck Rogers, Galactica 1980 (cringe).

Alien 3, Alien 4, Millenium.

Leonard Maltin gave 'Laserblast' two stars. Leonard Maltin smokes crack. :freak:

How about Corman's 'Humanoids From the Deep'? :thumbsup:

I mistakenly ordered "Mission To Mars" on Pay-Per-View in a hotel one time. I demanded a refund the next morning. The desk clerk gave it to me - no questions asked. I'm guessing he had seen it too.


grrrrr. I enjoyed mtm. OK maybe I'd had too much liquid refreshment and it was free on HBO.

worst? have to be the insipid tv shows I watched as a kid. What was I on then? (maybe that set me up for MTM?). I think there was great SF on tv then (outer limits?) but it was on after my bedtime.

Automan
Timerider
Streethawk
Manimal
Knightrider

The 80's eh?
Great at the time, but not now...

Jim

E.T.

Lord of the Rings

Lord of the Rings

When did this thread move from Sci-Fi to Fantasy?

when i said that LOTR is one of the worst ever...............

Anyone here remember "The Green Slime"?

The Green Slime Was Cool, Man!! It Was Awesome, Man!! You Dont Know What Your Talking About , Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I always loved that one with the big shag rug that "eats" people, I'll be damned if I can remember the name. 50s, B/W.

I always loved that one with the big shag rug that "eats" people, I'll be damned if I can remember the name. 50s, B/W.

The Creeping Terror. Classic Bad Cinema!!!

Worst movie: "The Crater Lake Monster" (which I worked on, ahem)(our cameraman on that one graduated to "Laser Blast" as his next project, a definite step up...)

Although it did have one of my all-time favorite monster movie lines in it: "please don't eat me Mr. Monster!!". Pure gold (or pure something...).

It's still available DVD if anyone out there needs coasters...

Worst TV show: anyone here see the Pendragon Productions version of "War of the Worlds"?

I just finished watching it last night. Looks like either a super bad professional production or a very ambitious student project. If the latter, then I give them high marks for making the most out of very little and for trying to tackle project of such scope. If professional, well... Kack!

That's it, thanks Zor, The Creeping Terror! Yay! Wish I was watching it right now.

Worst TV was undoubtedly The Starlost....it was SO bad that Keir Dullea didnt get another gig until 2010....my favourite bit was the camera panning over the ship...great use of egg cartons!
BTW anyone who loves the cheesy but technically brilliant Space 1999 should check out Star Maidens which made even less sense but was great to look at.

http://www.animus-web.demon.co.uk/maidens/

Remember "Eghah" (sp) with the Jaws guy from the Bond movies. He played a caveman. What tripe! LOL!

Guess Who (James at Work) :)

i think it's easy to pick on cheap low budget films. why not pick a film that was suppose to be great but ended up being crappy?

like...........

THE MATRIX FILMS!!!!!!!! ALL CRAP!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.davidhasselhoffonline.com/StarCrash12.jpg


" Star Crash "...

Although I DID like what Caroline Monro was wearing thru most of it.

Hasselhoff as a space-hero? Puhleeze. He was much more effective working with a talking car! :D

I mistakenly ordered "Mission To Mars" on Pay-Per-View in a hotel one time. I demanded a refund the next morning. The desk clerk gave it to me - no questions asked. I'm guessing he had seen it too.




Man Zor, I REALLY LIKE YOU I mean you never fail to express just what I'm thinkin' but in a more humorous way! :thumbsup:


JOHN LONFAN
OH BTW WORST FILM EVER (in my opinion) The Burton Planet Of The Apes! I was gonna Puke they coulda AT LEAST used ALL the original Names But then again I'm glad they didn't soil them with that Cinematic Mule Muffin! Credit to Col. Potter for that Discription! lol

now thats a good pick! POTA by TIM Burton sucked!!

the pilot (forgot his name) had no character, hated the chick ape. General Theed was way misused and that ending was bad.

now thats a good pick! POTA by TIM Burton sucked!!

the pilot (forgot his name) had no character, hated the chick ape. General Theed was way misused and that ending was bad.Actually, the ending of Tim Burton's POTA was more faithful to Pierre Boulle's original novel -- but that doesn't necessarily make it good!

BTW, I had forgotten how bad Saturn 3 was! A synthetic food research station on one of Saturn's moons? Harvey Keitel (with his voice dubbed, no less) playing an inexplicably psychotic bad guy who speaks a strange, stilted jargon? An 8-foot-tall robot named Hector? Farrah Fawcett showing us her boobies? (Okay, the picture had two things going for it.) ;) ;)

the ending of POTA "take 2" is more like a Jack Kirby Kamandi issue than it is a well thought out end for a film. great in a comic book, bad in a big budget film!

The Creeping Terror. Classic Bad Cinema!!!

The MST3k Volume 1 DVD set has both the mistied and original versions of Creeping Terror. The story of it's production is more interesting than anything in the movie, it was produced & directed by a con man who also stars in it. In fact every acting role in it was filled by somebody who "invested" money in the movie, the reason the ridiculously slow-moving carpet monster is shown eating so many people is that they were all investors in the film! The director disapeared with the underage jailbait heroine in the movie after it wrapped and was never seen or heard of again!

The director disapeared with the underage jailbait heroine in the movie after it wrapped and was never seen or heard of again!

She must have been the one with the bodacious tushie. She got "stuck" in the carpet monster's mouth about midway in.

Battefield Earth. I can't think of anything much worse.

I'll agree on Armageddon and I, Robot. Oh, and Independence Day.

Is no one remembering "Plan 9?"

I remember seeing that movie and it was so mindnumbingly bad that at the end of that movie I was completely retarded. :freak:

Oddly enough, I still quote my favorite line from Saturn 3 to this day - "Quick! Get his brain out!!"

X15 - I kinda liked Crater Lake Monster. Nice to meet someone who worked on it.

Did I mention I worked on The Deadly Spawn, and it's probably worse than Crater Lake? ;)

Battefield Earth. I can't think of anything much worse.

I'll agree on Armageddon and I, Robot. Oh, and Independence Day.

Dunno, I liked I Robot, but I hate several;

Armageddon( this movie sucked. Ripped off ID4)
star trek 1(nastalgic?, perhaps, but also slow paced, and utterly boring)
star trek 5(2 words, Razzie award)
star trek 10(absolutely horrid way to end it for the tng crew,and the aftermath of Data's demise was really awkward)
(and before it even hits theaters) star trek 11
star wars episode 1(lil anne did not build C3PO, I just will not buy it, oh yea and what's with that jar jar character? I mean come on, any one of us coulda done a better job with this picture. Message to George Lucas, The droids did not need to be in the prequal trilogy, well at least not in the first or second episodes anyway)
MIB 2
Matrix 2 and 3(well :puke: )

Worst TV show
robocop the series

How did Armageddon rip off ID4? The plots were completely different.

Dunno, I liked I Robot, but I hate several;

star trek 1(nastalgic?, perhaps, but also slow paced, and utterly boring)


Liked I, Robot but hated TMP???

Heretic!

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

The Inquisition - what a show
The Inquisition - here we go
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away.
But the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!

How did Armageddon rip off ID4? The plots were completely different.

The plots were different, yes, but the feel of the movie as a whole, or its idea and theme were the same. ID4 was an ok movie for its plot, but Armageddon was a coppy cat to me, even though they tried to be cooler than ID4.

yeah, i agree......they were both different. how you see one as a copycat makes no sense to me.

yeah, i agree......they were both different. how you see one as a copycat makes no sense to me.

I beg to differ, those movies where quite similar in their respects. In both movies, the earth was threatend, the mass distruction scenes mirrored each other. There was scenes of international unity, there was a speach given in each movie about human survival, and they expressed lots of patriotism. Also there was a main love story in each movie as well as others. The world being united canceling out "petty differences". The same thing. I dont see how they were so different.

Oddly enough, I still quote my favorite line from Saturn 3 to this day - "Quick! Get his brain out!!"

X15 - I kinda liked Crater Lake Monster. Nice to meet someone who worked on it.

Did I mention I worked on The Deadly Spawn, and it's probably worse than Crater Lake? ;)

John, you LIKED "The Crater Lake Monster"??? They have medications for people like you...

Just kidding, but you are the first person who has ever said that, that I know of. There was actually a re-written script for CLM that was much more intelligent and would have made a decent low budget film but the guy who was making it didn't seem able to understand the new version so he brought it back to "his level"...

I haven't seen "The deadly Spawn", are there coasters available of it too?

I must say however that working on a film like CLM was a fantastic experience, one that I would not trade. It was an incredible opportunity to learn filmmaking because on a low budget independent film you are not limit to one job, they will let you do most anything that you think you are capable of. And it was all shot on location in the Sierras at Huntington Lake, Big Bear Lake and around Mount Palomar Observatory so that was an extra perk. Hard work but good fun too. Not to mention that we had Jim Danforth working on it too!

m.a.n.t.i.s.

Was "M.A.N.T.I.S." the show that had an episode featuring a running Lincoln Futura replica? Or was that "Viper"? Anyway, they both sucked!