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erock1331
12-01-2005, 02:43 PM
Please Comment / Review / Discuss !!!!!

PUF19
12-01-2005, 02:46 PM
they will be available next week ;0)
this is the other one
http://www.nicks-simworld.com/images/Monster27.jpg

irvan36mm
12-01-2005, 03:02 PM
Please Comment / Review / Discuss !!!!! WOW! It's about time! Now I could get one to match my Cobalt 19t. LOL Hope it's a really good one.
-George

Kenwood
12-01-2005, 04:01 PM
Gee if its as good as the cobalt 19t motors are>>>Sign me up to buy 0 pcs of that one. I guess a positive is at least this does not have the stupid heat sink mess on the endbell..

erock1331
12-01-2005, 04:06 PM
I did a little reading over on Rctech and they claim....i repeat they claim, its a good tenth to 2 better than a good Monster motor was for on-road.

Runs cooler I hear too.

me21
12-01-2005, 04:08 PM
Great just when i get the Monster figured out, looks like anouther 2 years before i am fast agian......LOL

erock1331
12-01-2005, 04:10 PM
adrian you still gotta master the epic roar. its faster than the monster if geared and built right. baby steps before you try this one,
just messin

me21
12-01-2005, 04:18 PM
adrian you still gotta master the epic roar. its faster than the monster if geared and built right. baby steps before you try this one,
just messin


not nice....lol, But i have to admit it was funny i laughed.........

Kenwood
12-01-2005, 04:19 PM
Great >>> so now because im running stock again next week Ive got to buy a new motor.. UGH!!!!

Tommygun43
12-01-2005, 04:46 PM
Is it roar legal?

burbs
12-01-2005, 06:25 PM
Is it roar legal?

No it will not be legal per roar until the next aproval.. There ha to be a certain amount in circulation, and the specs have to me right first.. im sure it will eventually..

Tommygun43
12-01-2005, 06:37 PM
There not legal yet...awsome. I don't get the cobalt part. I thought that normally referred to cobalt magnets...but I wouldn't think it would be legal for stock if that is the case. I notice it doesn't say Outlaw motor or Roar approved on the box so it makes sense it it will lkely be approved at a later date.

erock1331
12-01-2005, 06:41 PM
Got some info:

Release date was supposed to be at the Ceveland Champs but
Changes were made to the pre-production model causing some delays.
No specific date for delivery to Trinity.

Slight changes in the arm: most notibly instead of a brass spacer between the stacks, there will be laminations as spacers.

Arm appears to be legal stack length and diameter.

The can is a Monster can, in Colbalt blue color.
The magnets are the same magnets used in the Monster Stock. So the only change here is the color.

Xpressman
12-01-2005, 07:35 PM
No it will not be legal per roar until the next aproval.. There ha to be a certain amount in circulation, and the specs have to me right first.. im sure it will eventually..

Chances are it will be legal Jan. 1. This is the day that all new approvals for ROAR occur and they seam to never tell anyone before hand. Though motors and batteries can be submitted anytime during the year for approval where as batteries are done once a year.

Dan
12-01-2005, 07:47 PM
Please Comment / Review / Discuss !!!!!

Well.... hopefully they will come out with another one
in a few months.
Maybe like a "Super Cobalt Monster Eater".

Hopefully we will soon have 1.26 batteries...

Now if we could just find another tire dealer with 20 different
compounds that would guarantee another lap AFTER you find
the right combination...

Maybe a new speed control to revolutionize the industry?

I just need a few more items to spend some money on
to go from a 4:03.164 to a 4:02.288 :rolleyes:

(I need a home equity line.... hep me... hep me...)

jsrocket13
12-01-2005, 09:40 PM
Coool hey Todd i want you to tune me one of those

Mr.fastman
12-01-2005, 10:06 PM
So its not roar or arcor legal?

erock1331
12-01-2005, 10:59 PM
JB contaced Trinity today and Trinity does not have an updated production motor to send out to them yet. They changed the prototype motors that are out there now.

erock1331
12-01-2005, 11:01 PM
Maybe a new speed control to revolutionize the industry?

LRP has the Q3 out now

captain11
12-01-2005, 11:41 PM
erock, ozzy called Q3 not available yet.

me21
12-02-2005, 01:34 AM
it comes out the 5th

DK47
12-02-2005, 06:27 AM
Hey Dan,can you say Quantum3?It's here!

tfrahm
12-02-2005, 05:06 PM
Hmmm.... Big Jim had been doing some consulting for Trinity before his untimely departure from this world...

Anyone remember his posting of this "armature of the future":

http://rccars.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=21774

Hmmmm....

Not the same as what shows on the packaging, but some of the same ideas... Cut down laminations as spacers between the full size ones instead of non-ferrous material...

rickster58
12-02-2005, 07:07 PM
adrian you still gotta master the epic roar. its faster than the monster if geared and built right. baby steps before you try this one,
just messin
I don't think that's always true. The monster has more torque doesn't it? Then if that's true, the monster would be faster. (K&N)
Rick<><

PUF19
12-02-2005, 07:09 PM
rickster dont go there....

rickster58
12-03-2005, 12:57 PM
I don't follow...?

burbs
12-09-2005, 01:43 AM
Trinity is proud to announce the next generation stock motor the Co27. The Co27 is the first stock motor specifically designed for the new 3800 and 4200 cells. A new armature designed to have more inertia produces a motor that carries more rpm into the turns, instead of falling flat on its face the second you lift off the power.

The Co27 also features tweaked vents in the can to increase the virtual magnetic timing to the armature so the motor thinks it has more timing than it actually does. The Co27 is designed to efficiently use the voltage of the new style cells so the motor runs cooler and does not fade from heat at the end of the race like other stocks


i got this in an email today

Mayhem
12-09-2005, 08:02 AM
Finally a torque motor, I dont like those peaky RPM Motors they have been putting out.This motor should be more like the P2K, best stocker ever produced INMO!

erock1331
12-09-2005, 11:21 AM
Burbs,
they kinda said the same thing on the specs for the Monster

"This is Trinity's Monster Horspower Stock Electric Motor.

FEATURES: All new armature lamination design that fools the motor into thinking it has more then the legal 24 degrees of timing.

It has an asymmetrical hole pattern to alter the magnetic field for more magnetic timing. "

pepe
12-09-2005, 11:52 AM
WOW! that was some quick R&D by Trinity didn't the 4200's just come out? I mean the 38's haven't been out all THAT long? What like June or something?

ta_man
12-09-2005, 12:17 PM
Finally a torque motor, I dont like those peaky RPM Motors they have been putting out.This motor should be more like the P2K, best stocker ever produced INMO!

I do not see them saying more torque. The quote reads:

"A new armature designed to have more inertia produces a motor that carries more rpm into the turns, instead of falling flat on its face the second you lift off the power."

Seems to me that if it has more inertia to keep up RPMs as it goes into a turn it is going to have that same inertia to prevent it from spinning up as fast (as a lighter armature) leaving the turn. Actually, this is probably more marketing hype than anything else and both effects might turn out to be negligible.

FASTALJR
12-09-2005, 01:07 PM
oh boy another stock motor!!! I love trinity!





"Bring on the brushless"

JPHRacer
12-09-2005, 02:02 PM
I quote the web page that says, "the RPM of a monster with the torque of the P2K2."

Their new arm is supposed to make more power mid and low without loosing any top end. Its all on the web page.

B mullins
12-10-2005, 12:28 AM
What happened to the quad magnet motors? why arent we running those?

pepe
12-10-2005, 12:59 AM
oh boy another stock motor!!! I love trinity!





"Bring on the brushless"
This is the first new stock motor in quite a while,brushless is for wimps anyway.

Milky
12-16-2005, 08:18 PM
Any info on release??

burbs
12-16-2005, 08:40 PM
This is the first new stock motor in quite a while,brushless is for wimps anyway.
i guess im a wimp now.. No more stock class here.. brushless is my only choice..:cry:

Dan
12-16-2005, 09:07 PM
i guess im a wimp now.. No more stock class here.. brushless is my only choice..:cry:

Sometime when you have a few minutes, maybe you could do a brief
(or not so brief) "report" on brushless...

They are not used at all here, and I have NO idea what they are like...
(nor does anyone else in this area).... looking to get edgukated... :confused:

burbs
12-16-2005, 09:38 PM
Well i have yet to run it yet. but i have seen it run since mid summer.. we run the 4300 series motor here.. it is slightly slower then 19 turn.. tons of power. 3-4 laps faster then stock.. 1-2 lps slower then 19 turn..

the reason people seem to like it so much is there is no motor maintinance.. Put it in and go..

ddpierson
12-16-2005, 11:54 PM
What burbs said. One motor is it. No more Dyno, Brushes, checking spring tension, comm lathe, break in brushes hell we can can go on. You will not be disappointed.

beekman
12-17-2005, 12:21 AM
i believe that this new motor will not have the brake effect to it.(when you let off the throttle seems like the motors arcs or acts like a break comes on.)wich will help it spool up from the center of the turn off.quicker acceleration to top speed.

Z-Main Loser
12-17-2005, 11:37 PM
i believe that this new motor will not have the brake effect to it.(when you let off the throttle seems like the motors arcs or acts like a break comes on.)wich will help it spool up from the center of the turn off.quicker acceleration to top speed.

What about 4 cell stock when you're wide open at all times? No braking effect but will it get off the corner quicker?

Mayhem
12-18-2005, 01:42 AM
Am I missing something here? From what I understand the new motor is a conventional brushed motor. As long as it is run with a standard speedo it has to have some braking effect. I thought it was the brushless that had no braking effect?

pepe
12-19-2005, 03:46 PM
What burbs said. One motor is it. No more Dyno, Brushes, checking spring tension, comm lathe, break in brushes hell we can can go on. You will not be disappointed.

OH Well! you 're missing out on half the fun of the hobby,the tinkering.

ddpierson
12-19-2005, 11:44 PM
There are other things to tinker with. There are a lot of adjustments on my CustomWork cars that I have not tried yet. Don't get me wrong I still run stock all the time but when I have a chance to run brushless all I have to worry about is the chassis and rollout to adjust. Makes it easier to work on one motor rather than two when you are running two classes

pepe
12-19-2005, 11:52 PM
You're not going to change set ups that much on race day anyway,I mean c'mon if my set up is off this week I have next week to make some more changes and try some different things,Chassis set up is a forever changing thing anyway, you will always be tweaking your set up,that's why I do my motor work during the week,leaving the chassis work for the track.

erock1331
01-13-2006, 04:30 PM
Be the person to get the first production C027


Trinity put it up on Ebay



www.teamtrinity.com (http://www.teamtrinity.com)

canbquik
01-13-2006, 05:21 PM
supposedly the comm is heavier than normal, allowing better speed in the corners by rotating mass keeping it going. That is what I read somewhere.

Mr.fastman
01-14-2006, 12:18 AM
supposedly the comm is heavier than normal, allowing better speed in the corners by rotating mass keeping it going. That is what I read somewhere.

Then couldn't I just run a lead pinion?

Doug P

canbquik
01-14-2006, 12:35 AM
Then couldn't I just run a lead pinion?

Doug P


why not? put them both together and that thing will haul a$$!!!!!! that is what they said in xtreme magazine's new product section.......