View Full Version : Never say Never Again(Special Edition)


beatlepaul
10-21-2005, 04:55 PM
Hi Guys, Just wanted to share a new purchase with you. I just recieved via mail, My "Free copy" I made a $10.00 donation, of the Sean Connery (Not official), Bond Film, Never Say Never again. The original film has been edited and Official Bond music added. Also the Official Gun barrell sequence has been added. Now As I have said in another post I am a Huge Bond Fan. And my favorite Bond happens to be Sean Connery. This Fan Produced DVD is excellent! It Feels like a Real Bond film. I didn't care for it originally. Hated the music and it didn't flow like it should. Kudos should be given to the fan who ,over a period of a year made the film Almost as good as Goldfinger! Regards, Mark

rw2516
10-21-2005, 05:46 PM
Where do you get it? Have a link?

terryr
10-21-2005, 05:51 PM
I liked the movie as it was. It didn't rely on stupid gimmicks or moronic puns. Neat Bike too.

trevanian
10-21-2005, 07:49 PM
I liked the movie as it was. It didn't rely on stupid gimmicks or moronic puns. Neat Bike too.


There are things I love about it, like Brandauer, and especially the fact that we get to see Bond really turn the girl around in stead of it just happening by him snapping his fingers, but the 'stately' pace really works against most of NSNA. I didn't want to get this fan version because I don't think a real Bond score would work against visuals and cutting like this pic has.

But if they ever figured out a way to do the original ending (which, in the 70s, when the project was called WARHEAD or JAMES BOND OF THE SECRET SERVICE, was going to be a full out battle at the statue of liberty, after Blofeld has taken it over), then you'd have me queing up yesterday for it.

John P
10-21-2005, 10:36 PM
Is the name Paul Scrabo anywhere in the credits of making the disk?
Paul is an industry friend of mine who's been very active with the Bond video releases for many years. Soon after Never Say Never came out on tape, he had taken the bike chase scene and redubbed it with John Barry music (for his own amusement). It was wonderful. This makes me wonder if he's gone all the way this time.

beatlepaul
10-22-2005, 09:47 AM
Is the name Paul Scrabo anywhere in the credits of making the disk?
Paul is an industry friend of mine who's been very active with the Bond video releases for many years. Soon after Never Say Never came out on tape, he had taken the bike chase scene and redubbed it with John Barry music (for his own amusement). It was wonderful. This makes me wonder if he's gone all the way this time. No Paul Scrabo is not involved with this project. http://www.ohmss.ohmss-007.com/ohmss.html Click on SCREENING ROOM, THEN NEVER SAY MCLORY AGAIN. Regards, Mark

beatlepaul
10-22-2005, 09:57 AM
Again it makes this film feel like a Bond Film. I watched it again last night.Check out the site I listed above. There is also a lot of info on Probably one of the BEST Bond films"On Her Majesty's Secret Service". I am a Connery Bond Fan all the way, But read some of the articles on George Lazenby, You will appreciate him more. I do. Regards, Mark

rw2516
10-22-2005, 10:54 AM
Thanks for the info. I've got me a copy coming. Great to know there is a site dedicated to what I've always felt was the best Bond film.

beatlepaul
10-22-2005, 12:31 PM
Thanks for the info. I've got me a copy coming. Great to know there is a site dedicated to what I've always felt was the best Bond film.That site is awesome isn't it!!! I love "on Her Majesty's Secret Service". And Like I said before, Lazenby makes a Damm good 007.

terryr
10-23-2005, 09:48 AM
Too bad its Paypal. I heard bad things on web sites, like the agreement gives them the right to plunder your bank account.

rw2516
10-23-2005, 06:27 PM
This site is awesome! Lots of great trivia I've never heard before. The contoversy over whether Fleming appears in FRWL, the man with the bottle in the Moore films, and lots more. He also has the ABC network re-edit of OHMSS on dvd. Supposedly toward the end of Licence To Kill a firing machine gun is playing the James Bond theme.

lonfan
10-24-2005, 07:48 AM
AS LONG AS IT STILL HAS BARBRA CARRERA IN THIS VERSION I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY DO TO THE FILM! lol

FATIMA BLUSH the perfect Bond Girl!
BIG BARBRA CARRERA!
BIG BARBRA CARRERA!


Okay I feel better
JOHN/LONFAN

sbaxter
10-24-2005, 03:33 PM
FATIMA BLUSH the perfect Bond Girl!Well, there was this girl in Philadelphia ...

Qapla'

SSB

terryr
10-25-2005, 10:09 AM
Pussy Galore was the perfect bond woman.

lonfan
10-25-2005, 10:18 AM
Well, there was this girl in Philadelphia ...

Qapla'

SSB


"INFIDEL! How Dare You Mock Fatima Blush!!!" :devil:


Seriously though I just went over to that 007 Site Wow! I'm gettin' Me one of those! lol

JOHN/LONFAN

trevanian
10-25-2005, 11:57 PM
Pussy Galore was the perfect bond woman.

Was is and ever shall be ... (though I have soft spots for Tatiana Romanova and Fiona Volpe as well)

Zorro
10-26-2005, 12:24 AM
I always liked the way Connery pronounced it - "Pooshy".

scotpens
10-26-2005, 12:41 AM
As long as we're turning this into a "Best Bond Girl" thread. . .

My vote for the sexiest Bond Babe goes to Shirley Eaton as Jill Masterson. Gorgeous, great figure, and projected a warm, appealing, playful sexuality. Her seven minutes of screen time in Goldfinger definitely left a lasting impression — and she looked great covered in gold paint! Runner-up: Luciana Paluzzi as Fiona Volpe in Thunderball. She was bad. She was dangerous. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her. But she was my kind of woman.*

Worst Bond Girls: Claudine Auger as Domino in Thunderball (boring and wimpy); Lois Chiles as Holly Goodhead in Moonraker (bland, pretty but no sex appeal, couldn't act worth bubkes).

*Maybe that last bit belongs on the "Guess the Movie" thread. . .

John P
10-26-2005, 08:07 AM
I have a hard spot - er, soft spot for Jill St. John in Diamonds Are Forever. Especially in that purple bikini. Dang, she was beautiful.

terryr
10-26-2005, 09:12 AM
And how about Lana Wood, Natalies' younger, bigger sister?! Tiffany Case and Plenty O'Toole.

rw2516
10-26-2005, 09:18 AM
Plenty O'Toole.

"Named after your father perhaps"

scotpens
10-26-2005, 11:13 AM
And how about Lana Wood, Natalies' younger, bigger sister?! Tiffany Case and Plenty O'Toole.Yes, Lana may have had a small part in Diamonds are Forever, but her, uh, parts were anything but! Not much of an actress, though.

John P
10-26-2005, 11:34 AM
I didn't know there a pool down there...

rw2516
11-26-2005, 12:51 PM
Got mine in the mail today. Checked out the first ten minutes and think it's awesome. Gonna watch the entire thing tonight. Love it when the James Bond theme kicks in as Bond enters the room where the girl is being held hostage and takes the bad guys out with a machine gun in the pre-credits sequence.

trevanian
11-26-2005, 03:36 PM
And how about Lana Wood, Natalies' younger, bigger sister?! Tiffany Case and Plenty O'Toole.

She was in one of my top 5 WILD WILD WEST episodes, with Pernell Roberts. Really good use of dynamite in the fourth act, as I recall.

The Legrand music in NSNA is really bad, but it IS paced to Connery's delivery and Kersh's direction. Everything is just so damned leisurely, even the "my name is Bond" reading. But I really love Brandauer's performance. I'd think you would need to speedramp a lot of the movie and seriously over-cut the sequences to make it seem like a regular Bondflick.

rw2516
11-26-2005, 04:53 PM
She was in one of my top 5 WILD WILD WEST episodes, with Pernell Roberts. Really good use of dynamite in the fourth act, as I recall.

The Legrand music in NSNA is really bad, but it IS paced to Connery's delivery and Kersh's direction. Everything is just so damned leisurely, even the "my name is Bond" reading. But I really love Brandauer's performance. I'd think you would need to speedramp a lot of the movie and seriously over-cut the sequences to make it seem like a regular Bondflick.

I'd have to compare but the opening sequence seems shorter and more tightly cut. I know he edited some scenes to make it fit the particular piece of music. I've just skipped through it so far. He used the Thunderball title sequence with a Shirley Bassey song called "History Repeating".
It looks like he moved the order of some scenes around. Amazing that you can re-edit and rescore an entire feature film on a home pc.

terryr
11-27-2005, 11:03 AM
If the studio had tried to do that the director would scream rape.

trevanian
11-27-2005, 01:51 PM
If the studio had tried to do that the director would scream rape.

I honestly don't think the studio was disappointed with the way Kersh handled the show, especially considering all the various issues with weather and financing. They had already given up on the idea of making it in the same style as the Eon Bonds (John Barry turned them down pretty early), and I think Connery wanted this more "mature" or stately approach. But if you want to make it (after the fact, not for a 1983 release) a more traditional Bond film, you'd have to alter the style pretty heavily.

and for the record, the kind of speedramping they did in DIE ANOTHER DAY is something I find abhorrent in movies in general and especially in a Bond film. The sped up framecut stuff in GOLDFINGER in the barn and underwater in THUNDERBALL sucked back then, and the DAD stuff sucked now ... sped-up just doesn't work in general, though if you design a sequence for it (like Ridley Scott intended at one point in Blade Runner), it can work on occasion.

When I said speedramping NSNA, I was meaning that the whole show seems off-speed and it is almost like the movie is in need of timecompression, or perhaps giving Connery a heavy dose of caffeine. He only seems like Bond to me in the title sequence (geez, he doesn't shoot anybody during the rest of the movie!) and in brief parts of the seduction of Domino.

rw2516
11-27-2005, 06:30 PM
When I have the time I'll do a complete comparison. The SE has definately been edited to tighten up the movie making it seem to movie faster. Bond's assault on the terrorist(or whatever) camp in the beginning is 2 minutes shorter. The aerial view of the island is gone. In the original Bond leisurely takes his time eliminating the bad guy. In this version the white dot of the gun barrel logo expands to Bond in the jungle. He then takes out the bad guys wham-bam-thank you maam to music from the pre-credit sequence of Goldeneye and the James Bond theme. In the original after the girl stabs Bond the camera zooms to a close-up of Bond sighing and then cuts to the videotape replay in M's oiffice. In this version the camera zooms to the closeup of Bond, freezes, and everything around his face dissolves into blue and then the Maurice Binder credit sequence from Thunderball, only with NSNA credits and Shirley Bassey singing "History Repeating". The credits dissolve into a close-up of bronze plaque on outside of hotel and Fatima Bush entering the hotel and then to the hidden SPECTRE headquarters, just like with Largo in Thunderball. The M's office scene come later. I'd have to compare but he may have reedited more scenes so the sequence of events is the same as Thunderball.
At the end, in the pool with Domino, the "romantic" version of "All Time High" is playing. When Bond looks at the camera and winks the gun barrel logo ciurcles in around his face. The end credits looks to be from DR. NO, the gun barrell logo with Bond firing in the center. The credits roll to "Nobody Does It Better".
The music edits make a big difference. The ones I can remember:
James Bond theme during motorcycle/car chase and when Bond is fired into air from submarine
007 Theme during gun battle between CIA and SPECTRE in underwater cove
Welcome to Miami from Goldfinger as Largo's helicopter flies in and lands on The Flying Saucer
Both Thundball underwater themes and capsule in space themes from YOLT during underwater scenes
music from OHMSS when Bond is out on cable car used when Pitachi is switching atomic bombs
The Pretenders-"Where Has Everybody Gone" playing on car radio of Fatima Bush as she throws snake in Pitachi car and them blows it up after it crashes.
The band at the hotel is playing the music froim the band in Pusfeller's bar in Dr. No(this was exceptionally well done)
Too many more to mention.

terryr
11-27-2005, 10:06 PM
Wasn't -"Where Has Everybody Gone" in the original?

rw2516
11-27-2005, 10:22 PM
Wasn't -"Where Has Everybody Gone" in the original?
It's in The Living Daylights, playing over the portable radio of the assassian impersonating the milkman. Unless I'm mistaken the background music of the milkman assassin destroying the safe house with milk bottle bombs in Living Daylights is used in the NSNA SE during Bond's fight with the big guy at Shrublands.

spe130
11-28-2005, 01:22 AM
Pussy Galore was the perfect bond woman.

I have a female friend who's IM handle is PussE Galore ... :tongue:

lonfan
11-28-2005, 05:42 PM
And how about Lana Wood, Natalies' younger, bigger sister?! Tiffany Case and Plenty O'Toole.

"Not Better Just Different" Bond on Japanese women lol

STILL MS. Carrera Rules!



John/Lonfan:thumbsup: