OK so that we don't 'hose up' the other threads (figures, PL, LM Jupiter 2's) I figured a single subject that we can revive anytime sumtin NEW comes along.

I'll post updates to my 'progress' on my 4 foot J2, and I guess any of the Studio props (chariot, 10 foot J2, 1 foot J2 etc) can also go here.

Like I said, I will most likely do a launch tower in plywood and lots of paint for my 4 foot J2. I'm gonna make a cradle for it with wheels so I can roll it around to vacuum etc, and maybe I'll even attempt to film a launch just for S&G... Same reason for filming a Derelict sequence. Gotta make a boom though.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/IMG_0411.jpg

Cool! :thumbsup:

BTW: About how much does your J2 weigh?

A short while back you also made mention of comparing it to another 4 footer you saw in '03.... I know which J2 you are talking about - how did those unique markings match up bewteen the two? Where they only in the one from '03 or are they also contained on your hull too? :cool:

Thanks again for posting/sharing your pix!

seems that the markings "B" appear on both. The only difference is that the "Other" one was flatter on top, and was about 1/3 the thickness. I haven't weighed mine, but it's sturdy enough to slide into the ground without damage, and on MINE the upper and lower hulls are still mated. I've seen the same poor details involved with the round upper hull hatches too.

mark, you gonna keep the hulls as 1 piece ?

seems that the markings "B" appear on both. The only difference is that the "Other" one was flatter on top, and was about 1/3 the thickness. I haven't weighed mine, but it's sturdy enough to slide into the ground without damage, and on MINE the upper and lower hulls are still mated. I've seen the same poor details involved with the round upper hull hatches too.

Thanks Mark , that's interesting to know. :thumbsup:

The word I heard on that particular 4 footer was that the guy who cast it from the mold , layered it too thin for his liking and so he put it up on that online auction place , he had another one , with thicker hull, that he could keep for himself.

Though of course you know the speculations around that one being an original extra from the show ... so conflictions there. :freak:

BUT - I wasn't aware that the other 4 footer was in two halves!??
Was it sold in that condition or was that the doing of the person who purchased it and perhaps was building it up?

Where exactly did the two halves join? I assume right at the upper deck floor line - like the lunar kits ?

I doubt it was around the ceiing line , like the Polar Light kits and the J2 Autopsy video that shows where the Hero opened up.... just want to be sure.

it happened while it was being handled by the owner. It joined at the middle, not the top. Henry & me and the owner had a Jupiter 2 "Show n Tell" at Henry's shop. The thinness of that hull makes it hard to add large mechanics etc. I'm going over my 2 foot LM job for the video shoot you requested as well. Dusted, new batteries, and a few repairs where I didn't join wires together too well, just twisted 'em together.
I had forgot about 'those last few details' I had to do before it was truly complete. See what a girlfriend - now fiance' can do to yer mind!! I might get her to wear a silver LIS style suit for the final photos of the 4 footer! Would look great on the cover of the book!

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/wider1.jpeg

I think that quitte a few folks have J2 Hulls annd 'plans' to complete theirs, but I wonder how many ACTUALLY GET DONE? maybe 40 percent? I think the landing gear legs, feet and them slidin' doors keep most folks from finishing theirs..

I think that quitte a few folks have J2 Hulls annd 'plans' to complete theirs, but I wonder how many ACTUALLY GET DONE? maybe 40 percent? I think the landing gear legs, feet and them slidin' doors keep most folks from finishing theirs..

yeah - I'd say the "In Flight" build up version is the most popular! lol

Can't blame them really. :freak:

But they don't even put in working space pod bay door details ... :devil:

it happened while it was being handled by the owner. It joined at the middle, not the top. Henry & me and the owner had a Jupiter 2 "Show n Tell" at Henry's shop. The thinness of that hull makes it hard to add large mechanics etc. I'm going over my 2 foot LM job for the video shoot you requested as well. Dusted, new batteries, and a few repairs where I didn't join wires together too well, just twisted 'em together.
I had forgot about 'those last few details' I had to do before it was truly complete. See what a girlfriend - now fiance' can do to yer mind!! I might get her to wear a silver LIS style suit for the final photos of the 4 footer! Would look great on the cover of the book!


Now that you mention it - I recall Henry telling me about that a while back and having to tape the hull together ... your picture jogged my memory! :rolleyes: Weird that it would split cleanly and completely like that .... hmmmmm.....

Cool pic - NEVER get tired of looking at pix of 4 foot Jupiter 2s !!! :D

Thanks again for the 2' Looner stuff- can't wait to see that !!!

Yep get her in that suit & those pix FAST while she's your fiance ... 'cause once you two are married ... it might not be as easy (to say the least!) to get her to do it. ;)

I don't give a rodent hiney about the Space pod either.

Mark what size is that other jupiter 2 in the backround ?
bert

hey Mike wanna see pics of my Jupiter 2's ? both lunar 16.5 and 24 inch, my polar lights jupiter 2 is finished after 2 1/2 years of detailing, gotta sand the upper deck edges so the hulls will close evenly.
bert

after i get it to be gap free and i have some time, hopefully this weekend i need to take pics of both decks.

Mark what size is that other jupiter 2 in the backround ?
bert


it's a LM 2 foot job.

what did the 4 footer cost you mark ? and any chance of others being available ?

what did the 4 footer cost you mark ? and any chance of others being available ? I would sure like to know as well. My wife would probably make me sleep outside in the shed with it! Possibly if enough guys are interested, the 4' Jupiter Two could be offered a Little less expensive??? Y 3a You might be able to make copies yourself?? Off the one you already own??

I don't have the know how to do a BIG casting or pulls in fiberglass. I wish I did.

BTW - If we started making Jupiter 2 hulls based on or actually from the original 4 foot models we would have to pay royalties/lic. fees.

Displaying and storage is different than a B9 replica too. It's about 2 feet square at the bottom(floorspace) and about 6 feet tall or so. The Jupiter 2 foot job takes up almost 16 squares and even though you can hang it, it's also about 18 inches tall so you give up some head room. I don't know if any of us will ever get permission to display it on the dining room table. thats why i'm gonna do the launch tower too, as a display cradle for mine. it's still gonna be expensive to make the cradle since it'll tahe 6 sheets of high quality- finished on both sides 3/4 inch plywood, and then all the details, and a pair of 4 foot circles cut from a single sheet of 3/4 ply. I'm gonna put some wheels on the bottom of mine so I can roll it around.

BTW - If we started making Jupiter 2 hulls based on or actually from the original 4 foot models we would have to pay royalties/lic. fees.


Absotootley! :(

That's why these saucer-deals have been pretty hush-hush in the past ... no one wanted the attention of selling these... you typically had to know someone to get the chance to own one. :cool:

UNDERSTOOD. We will have to pick up a 4' Jupiter two on our own somehow. God knows they are out there. We don't want anyone getting in trouble for anything. This is for fun and the love of the ship. Regards, Mark

there was some one at Wonderfest selling a 4 foot J2. all one piece and the view port had to be cut out. price was 800.00 buck i belive, cant say how thick it was tho of how acurate. looked good, thank god for small cars, no way i cood have got it home. or to put it another way no way I wood have got home with it acording to Mich.(-:

hey chuck tell me about your j2 launch tower

hey chuck tell me about your j2 launch tower

Yes, I'd like to hear about that, too. Did you buy the Jim Key launch display?

http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hero20420ft20j20jj.jpg


http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wonderfeststuff2pn.jpg


http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10ftj20mi.jpg

http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hero20420ft20j20jj.jpg


http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wonderfeststuff2pn.jpg


http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10ftj20mi.jpg I like that Seaview in the second Photo. I would have bought that. Who was selling it? Could it possibly be still for sale??????

The third pic looks like the 10' model. Do you have any info on this pic, Chuck?

I always get a kick out of the photo of the 10 foot Jupiter 2 remanants. I wonder if it's just water exposure over the years that messed up or if it was sailed into something, or used for a crash landing shot that went really bad.

No pictures of the bottom of it eh?

The Hull in the "wonderfest stuff" photo looks like all the hulls I've ever seen photos of.

BTW- of the 3 guys looking at the hull, which one is Azarian??

I need to find a photo of the guy 'holding' the 12 inch Gemini 12/Jupiter 2.

Finally, I may have an easy method to raise and lower the gear on y'alls PL Jupiter 2's and slide the doors too. I'll post the drawings next week sometimes.

Looking forward to your drawings.:)

...I may have an easy method to raise and lower the gear on y'alls PL Jupiter 2's and slide the doors too. I'll post the drawings next week sometimes.

I too have been working on mechanism designs for the landing gear and pad doors. In fact, I've been working on a simplified mechanism for my cardstock model.

I'll be very interested to see your design! :dude:

http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10ftj20mi.jpg

thats a grab form Mikes Jupiter 2 site, the Seaview sold almost instantly i belive and it was in bad shape missing some parts. the 10 footer or maybe 12 now from what I have heard is in the hands of a private collector, sad thing about some of these collectors, we the fans well never see it again. At least if you dont have enought spare cash to bail out the national budget. ill see if i can find the other pics of the assembled gantry.

for J2 info, Mike has got one of the best places for info and pics.

The Azarian Jupiter 2 Hero MUST be the one that all the molds and copies came from. Jeins is pretty scruffy, and has a fusion core that still has fins.

Azarians hero doesn't as seen here:
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/Hero2btm.jpg

you can see the tape used to mask the 'windows' on the copies of that Fusion core.
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/IMG_0390.JPG

http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hero20420ft20j20jj.jpg


http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wonderfeststuff2pn.jpg


http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10ftj20mi.jpg

The first image is when the runaway criminal Jim Latta at Icons got the 4 footer.

Did he start to sell off his collection?

perhaps he made some bucks under the table by allowing molds to be made of that particular Jupiter 2?

The Jupiter 2 hulls I've seen aren't like Jeins. They are in better shape, like the ones in the I"CON"s pictures. So, HOW does Azarian fit into the picture?

The Azarian Jupiter 2 Hero MUST be the one that all the molds and copies came from. Jeins is pretty scruffy, and has a fusion core that still has fins.

Is Jeins STILL scruffy? I thought I read that it had been restored, this time in a very professional way. And, that molds were made of it at that time.

You tell me...Is THIS too Scruffy??

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/medium/3.jpg

or this


http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/medium/4.jpg

i have seen these pics be4, they look bad, speacialy around the viewport, this was after it was restored from City beneth the Sea? not sure which Saucer Arzarian has, ill ask tho.

http://www.lostintoys.com/museum/props.html

You tell me...Is THIS too Scruffy??

Yup. Don't know which one I read about, then. Are Jein's and Azarian's the only original four-footers?

...this was after it was restored from City beneth the Sea? not sure which Saucer Arzarian has, ill ask tho.

Yes, this was the one used in City beneth the Sea, and it was kinda, sorta restored, to what you see here.

The Azarian model is the hero. It had(has?) the working landing gear.

Yes, this was the one used in City beneth the Sea, and it was kinda, sorta restored, to what you see here.

The Azarian model is the hero. It had(has?) the working landing gear.
what a shame to tear it up like that instead of making a new prop for cbts

I always get a kick out of the photo of the 10 foot Jupiter 2 remanants. I wonder if it's just water exposure over the years that messed up or if it was sailed into something, or used for a crash landing shot that went really bad.

I dunno. Heard rumors the guy kept it in his swimming pool ~ don't know how true that is....

Heard more reliable rumors that he left it outside leaning up against the side of his house .... :rolleyes:

No pictures of the bottom of it eh?

That was the ONLY picture I was able to get from the guy. He keeps it in storage these days and at 10 feet diameter - he doesn't take it out much for photos etc... At least that's what he's told me in the past. Trust you me - I've asked and asked for more pix! lol


The Hull in the "wonderfest stuff" photo looks like all the hulls I've ever seen photos of.

I believe they can all be traced back to Greenwood/Latta and the restored Hero J2

BTW- of the 3 guys looking at the hull, which one is Azarian??

None!

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3357/hero20420ft20j20jj.jpg

It's ( left to right ) Dave Hielman, Al Zequira, & Scott Brodeen. It was
taken at Fab & Design at Icons circa 1996-97.



I need to find a photo of the guy 'holding' the 12 inch Gemini 12/Jupiter 2.

What guy are you talking about Y? Latta ? Was Icons J2 to be 12" ? I thought it was larger than that ... maybe up to 18" ... but my memory is vey foggy on that.

I have a pic of Latta with the Icons J2 - take me a lil time to get it online ... yep - I got it in "storage" too! lol



Finally, I may have an easy method to raise and lower the gear on y'alls PL Jupiter 2's and slide the doors too. I'll post the drawings next week sometimes.

Cool! Can't wait to eyeball 'em! :thumbsup:

http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10ftj20mi.jpg

thats a grab form Mikes Jupiter 2 site, the Seaview sold almost instantly i belive and it was in bad shape missing some parts. the 10 footer or maybe 12 now from what I have heard is in the hands of a private collector, sad thing about some of these collectors, we the fans well never see it again. At least if you dont have enought spare cash to bail out the national budget. ill see if i can find the other pics of the assembled gantry.

for J2 info, Mike has got one of the best places for info and pics.

Thanks Chuck! :wave:

The pages that go along with that picture can be found by clicking on the 10 foot Jupiter 2 below.

http://jupiter2.freeyellow.com/10foot/10ft01b.jpg (http://jupiter2.freeyellow.com/10foot/10ftj2.htm)

I don't have the know how to do a BIG casting or pulls in fiberglass. I wish I did.


Molds made off the restored 4' Hero J2 ....

http://jupiter2.freeyellow.com/J2Orig/j2molds.jpg

The Azarian Jupiter 2 Hero MUST be the one that all the molds and copies came from. Jeins is pretty scruffy, and has a fusion core that still has fins.

Azarians hero doesn't as seen here:
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/Hero2btm.jpg

you can see the tape used to mask the 'windows' on the copies of that Fusion core.
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/IMG_0390.JPG

Hey Y - I've never seen this belly picture before - pretty interesting. :thumbsup:

Never seen the bare core pic either ... is that the same core on the ship , prior to it's painting?

I have a pic of the form from which the restored Hero's core was taken from .... but I have never seen the core itself , until this bellyshot.

Do you have any more pix like these?

Where did you come across them?

The first image is when the runaway criminal Jim Latta at Icons got the 4 footer.

Did he start to sell off his collection?


A few years back rumor had it that he was selling off some of his collection through a third-person on that online auction site ...

I never eyeballed any listings personally.

perhaps he made some bucks under the table by allowing molds to be made of that particular Jupiter 2?

For a basic outline of events following the Hero 4' J2 from FOX to Azarian , you might want to look here (http://jupiter2.freeyellow.com/root/testj2xf.htm) - though not 100% accurately factual (we learned more details in the past 3 years since that page was written) it is pretty close.

The Jupiter 2 hulls I've seen aren't like Jeins. They are in better shape, like the ones in the I"CON"s pictures. So, HOW does Azarian fit into the picture?

To the best of my knowledge , Greg never made molds from his 4 ' pod dropper J2 ... though anything is possible.

I think it would be pretty obvious to spot though if he did and you came across one : as you face the front of the pod dropper the perimeter of the hull to the left of the viewport has a weird "dip" that is not on the Hero. Even looking back at pictures of the saucer in Greg's storage bid prior to any work being done on it - you can see that weird dip .



John Azarian is merely a COLLECTOR of Television Memorabilia , much like UncleOdie - except that Azarians collection is much broader than just things Irwin Allen...

If Azarian did not purchase it directly from Latta - he got it soon after.

here is a photo/screen grab showing the 12" Jupiter2/Gemini 12 model. I had hoped to find the frame that shows a guy holding it in his palm prior to the shot to steady it.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/12398_58369_98.jpg

Notice: The 3 wires supporting the model AND the shadow to the left cast onto the background.

Is Jeins STILL scruffy? I thought I read that it had been restored, this time in a very professional way. And, that molds were made of it at that time.

Jein's is still "scruffy" and is now technically the property of Paul Allen and is on display at the Science Fiction Museum at Spaceneedle Seattle - though for the sake of not clouding things further - calling it "Jein's" is convieniant. :freak:

A while back someone visited my site and contacted me becuause they were doing a French tv documentary on the histor y of robots and they were hoping I could get them in touch with Robert Kinoshita.

While talking with this gent he mentioned in passing that he saw the original Robby the Robot the day before and that he also saw the original Robot from Lost in Space - to the LIS Robot I said "Whoa - wait a sec!" (Sorry Robby - you're a distant second in my book. lol :p ) . Then he went on to tell me where he saw them and that the LIS robot was undergoing restoration work.

Where am I going with this & what's it got to do with Jein's J2???

I contacted the guy doing the restoration work on the LIS B9 and he was surprised I knew about it. We agreed "Mum was the word" and then he went on to tell me that Paul Allen also had the Jein J2 and the original Launch pad too!

Here's the point of all this blabbering : :rolleyes:

I asked him if there were plans to ALSO restore the Jein J2 and/or Launch Pad and he said "no" not currently at least. He said if they decided to do a restoration on it - they would more than likely ask him to do it too.

Since that time the Museum has put the Jein J2 and Launch Pad on display and it looks exactly the same as it did when purchased from Profiles In History - so no , there has been no additional restoration work done to that particular J2 since Jein did his own.

I think you are thinking of the Hero 4 ' Jupiter 2 ... again follow the link I mention above for a brief outline of the history of the J2 travels from FOX to Azarian. It might make more sense after that. Hopefully.

here is a photo/screen grab showing the 12" Jupiter2/Gemini 12 model. I had hoped to find the frame that shows a guy holding it in his palm prior to the shot to steady it.


Notice: The 3 wires supporting the model AND the shadow to the left cast onto the background.



OIC ...

Hold on a sec ...

Here ya go Y -

http://jupiter2.freeyellow.com/J2Orig/smallj2b.jpg

You can find it on this page called "Orig Props (http://jupiter2.freeyellow.com/J2Orig/origprop.htm)"