I was talking to my friend last night.. he said he was talking tot he roar rep down at the paved nats a few weeks back.. The rep there said roar is wanting to add another 2 ounces to our weight again..

so fo us oval guys who have 3 ounces of lead on the car, now you have to find a home for another 2 ounces..


rOAR ALWAYS ASKS FOR ITS MEMBER INPUT.. I think this is one subject you all need to voice to them on... website is

www.roarracing.com (http://www.roarracing.com)

Burbs, was that for caps and foams or just caps?

Ouch, there goes any advantage the new cells provide.

In stock if you dont run a wing some cars need to add 5 oz already.
If anything make stock 38oz and 19T and Mod - 41.00 oz.

42 oz is too much in my opinion.

So you have to add weight twice a year....IF you go to those prestigious ROAR events....does it matter what ROAR does?

I didn't even know they were around still.

G-Dizzle / TG: Exactly...let them keep changing the rules like we change our clothes...It doesn't matter.
The 10 people who attend the ROAR races can decide how they want to run twice a year...heh heh :thumbsup:

erock from what i understand it is across the board.. all classes not just oval.. there currently 40 oz for foam, and 42 for caps...

I had to add 3.25 oz of led to my maverock for caps... Ill tell you it isnt easy to find the right locations.. I dont run small electronics either..

as for the who cares, 99% of the tracks i race at require roar rules.. we tech on weekly racing,, not just sanctioned events..

For some reason i think roar feels the heavier the cars are the slower they will go.. exept every time they raise the weight we still god faster.. Itsd just sad to have to add that m,uch lead..

We must be the eception too Burbs, we run ARCOR weight weekly which is slightly less (39.8oz) but still close to 40 oz

Anything more would be uncivilized, lol

Roar wants your INPUT, but all they do is INPUT it in you.

This may be the best thing to ever happen!!!!!



for Arcor it is high time for Roar to get there act together. They have already lost more than they can take. I had 3 oz on my KSG at BMS and do not have any more room. Also with so much lead it will just be a matter of time before a turn marshall will get hit by flying lead. This will just make the Bird's even bigger.:mad: If the mod cars are not able to get to 42 oz just add it for them. If they want to slow the cars add 1 more minute to the race. We will have the batteries to handle it.

For the record,

It was proposed to add 2oz. to 1/12 and 1oz. to 1/10.

I am on the ROAR oval committee and I voted No.

Thanks for clearing that up.. still 1 oz to 10th is still to much..

Froma chassis designer's point of view, this is not a bad thing. Just think of all of the additional performance enhancing option parts that can now be added to the car to increase speed without paying a penatly for additional weight. Independent front ends oh yea!!

What's the point of a weight rule if we all run the exotic expensive stuff anyway???

Most forms of racing use a weight rule to keep costs down, keep exotic metals and carbon fiber from finding their way onto the "elite" teams. Well, we all run this crap, so what's a guy to do to get an unfair weight advantage...NOTHING!!!

Weight rules are bogus, do what you can to get light, and go racing.

Later, Bret

Let them add it. Chassis companys won't have to design wieght saving items. Won't have to spend big bucks on micro electronics and try to find those lightwieght bodies.


With this increase, maybe I'll be able to add some lead where I could use it for once.

With 2 more cell everyone wants to run thats 45 oz for caps and 43 oz for foams! I think My car weight around 44.5 oz at SCU in 6 cell stock, so thats about right.

who in oval racing gives a rats arse what roar does? lol

My 2 cents. Because all of us have cars that are under weight (4 cell) I think roar should lower the weight limit not raise it! In stock and for the most part you can't really use up the entire battery. Especially now with 3800's looming in the not too distant future (next week at out track). Why not push for a battery that produces more voltage instead of more current? Four cells is nice because the car is more balanced. Think about how much 6 cells weigh in comparison to the total weight of the car. Just an opinion.
Rick<><

For the record,

It was proposed to add 2oz. to 1/12 and 1oz. to 1/10.

I am on the ROAR oval committee and I voted No.


Thanks Danny tell them fockers to lay off the oval there rules are absolutly silly I run a aggressor with a LRP Q2 novak reciever and a standard size futaba digital servo and my cars just make weight. adding to the minimum is



stupid STUPID STUPID!!!!!!!!!!


JUST KEEP VOTING NO DANNY!!!!!!!!!!

who in oval racing gives a rats arse what roar does? lol

Well maybe enough people can step up and give their 2 cents to ROAR so they (ROAR) actually know what the racers want. I know DannyB knows what is good for the oval racing but how many others actually say their opinion to any one on the oval committee, the ROAR Excomm, or any regional directors. Yes oval is a smaller group and those in power might tend to not know what would be good for oval because no one gives them any input.

If I did not race oval, from what I hear from all the oval races is the cars are too fast. So without knowing anything about oval it makes sense to make them weigh more to slow them down. I'm not rationalizing anything, just giving an example of what people not involved in oval racing might think.

whatever!!! if a 4 cell stock car is to fast for these people then maybe these people should find another hobby. lol


anyways ROAR never makes sense, ROAR never will make sense, ROAR has the distinct ability to not make sense, ROAR is a lost cause. why pay 25 bucks a year for a weight rule, battery rule (which alot of tracks have already dumped), motors don't matter because they approve everything along with bodies so as far as I am concerned ROAR is a lost cause. hell the paved oval nats ran on a concrete track. last time I check paved ment asphalt. that is why the race got such a little turn out because only a handfull of concrete track still exsist. most are now flat asphalt.

whatever!!! if a 4 cell stock car is to fast for these people then maybe these people should find another hobby.



And with quotes like that is what runs people off!

Who's ROAR anyway??


Are they still collecting entry fees to join...LOL

That's called taxation without representation!! :rolleyes:

Where is the 2006 Paved Oval Nationals at?

And when is the deadline to turn in the bid package for that race?

Because from what I hear........ ROAR has already chose where that race is going to be held and bid deadline is when??????

Politics ..... always has been, always will be in ROAR!

Kenny@SpringCove

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Maybe if we all wish real hard, ROAR will go away and stop screwing up perfectly good racing.:thumbsup:
Better yet, we should all stop supporting any organization,(or dis-organization, in this case) that does more harm than good...

If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything...:cool:

Tracks already follow roar rules. They all have the "exceptions" list. Now I know that tracks run exceptions for motors and batteries. This will be another exception on the list. ROAR is undermining itself. It will use it's power to make & change the rules without concern for it's customers, the racers, just like any big corporation does these days. It will follow the suggestions of the manufacturers and big companies feeding them. (may they choke on a chicken bone!) Eventually all ROAR rules will be abolished at local tracks! Each track will have their own rules. I think this is how it was in the past. It's funny how everything works in cycles. Just like the bell bottoms from the 70's became "popular" a few years ago. Maybe ROAR will again be popular in the future?

"like we need one more person screwing up the racing" but it's time for an organization that keeps it simple. you can look at the biggest race in the country and see what works. we need to eliminate spec all together and just run the most popular classes : Stock/ 19T open/ open mod and stop goin on tangents with all these side classes spec trucks run near enough to the same speed as the stock cars and those guys are already wanting to run open batteries and motor brushes/springs. this tells me that these racers just want to try to keep the classes small enough to give them a chance to an easy win rather than figuring out what it takes to go fast. to me the stock class is the busch class. you've got nineteen turn and mod if you want to go faster. we need to stop doing different classes and huddle all the racers in fewer classes to keep everyone on the same page. i think it's obvious what classes have the best competition by looking at the attendance. keep the racers in a few classes and make a set of rules that are actually reallistic and simple. when you go to the birds it's about the racing not dancing around an organizations new rules. it's one thing to change a rule to prevent cheating but i don't see how adding weight prevents an advantage when every one i know at some point has walked up to tech only to find themselves under weight at some point before a race. i bet i could make my car make todays weight with the old dinosauer stuff. it's high enough leave it alone.
Happy racing,
Jesse Bean :wave:

I have been running mine at 42 o/z. It ain't no biggy, But I don't much care for weights stuck here and there. We pay all this money for a light fast chassis. Just to add wheight.

I don't know exactly why... but I never had to add any weight to any of my pan cars... I've always strugled to get it down to the minimum. To my knowlege I never was running pretty much the lightest components around...

Seemed to me that every new car that comes out has more parts on it, causing the weight to naturaly go up.

Makes you wonder... who exactly made the suggestion in the first place? was it a racer, or a manufacturer, etc...