Here are some photos of my completed Sci-Fi Metropolis 2' Jupiter Two. Sorry for the wait. I have tried to send them to Bert, But keep having problems. I really like this kit. Nothing was warped when I recieved it. I also assembled it without the instructions. Again apologies for the wait. High Regards, Mark

More Photos.

A couple moe photos of my Sci- Fi Metropolis 2' JUPITER TWO. Enjoy. Regards, Mark. (There are also photos in the ALBUM, so check them out!)

NICE JOB!:thumbsup:

NICE JOB!:thumbsup:
Thank you sir. The kit builds up very nicely. Again I didn't use any instructions to assemble it. It Photographs very well. Now I may want a Four Footer!!!!!!!!! High Regards, Mark.

Here are some photos of my completed Sci-Fi Metropolis 2' Jupiter Two. Sorry for the wait. I have tried to send them to Bert, But keep having problems. I really like this kit. Nothing was warped when I recieved it. I also assembled it without the instructions. Again apologies for the wait. High Regards, Mark Not with me lol ! the pictures would not come through on e mail until last night, I posted the pictures on the polar lights forum ! these are great pictures mark ! nice job

A four footer??

Ya up to it?

It's not a lightweight vacuform thing but a fiberglass cloth & resin hull with some areas as much as 1/4 inch thick. It's BIGGER than you think.
The fusion core is about 14 inches across.
It will require more light in it than most all LED's do.
The hull I have will need some teeny imperfections patched and sanded, AFTER the handling it will get to cut the gear leg slots, and the 3 upper hatches, and the main viewscreen and bubble. A dremel is just barely up to the task for the little holes, so I may end up with a compressed air powered tool for the leg slots.
The bubble is 4 1/2 inches across, and it needs a gearbox and motor and lights.
The fusion core will need 2-3 weekends to make it ready to install the spinning lights, gearbox, motor and batteries. THEN I have to make and attach all 32 fins. Big un's too.
The Landing gear legs and sliding doors have to be made as one assembly and they must be able to be slid thru the front window, or fusion core hole and put in place. I will most likely use 20 blind nuts per leg well to attach it to the hull. the legs will have to be done mostly in metal - bent steel sheet, pre-cut for those slots in the legs. Weight is already a factor with a big hull like that.

A four footer??

Ya up to it?

It's not a lightweight vacuform thing but a fiberglass cloth & resin hull with some areas as much as 1/4 inch thick. It's BIGGER than you think.
The fusion core is about 14 inches across.
It will require more light in it than most all LED's do.
The hull I have will need some teeny imperfections patched and sanded, AFTER the handling it will get to cut the gear leg slots, and the 3 upper hatches, and the main viewscreen and bubble. A dremel is just barely up to the task for the little holes, so I may end up with a compressed air powered tool for the leg slots.
The bubble is 4 1/2 inches across, and it needs a gearbox and motor and lights.
The fusion core will need 2-3 weekends to make it ready to install the spinning lights, gearbox, motor and batteries. THEN I have to make and attach all 32 fins. Big un's too.
The Landing gear legs and sliding doors have to be made as one assembly and they must be able to be slid thru the front window, or fusion core hole and put in place. I will most likely use 20 blind nuts per leg well to attach it to the hull. the legs will have to be done mostly in metal - bent steel sheet, pre-cut for those slots in the legs. Weight is already a factor with a big hull like that.
Yes sir, I think I can handle it! I just don't know where I would put the damm thing!! Good luck to you on your construction. You did an amazing job on that Lunar Two Footer. High Regards, Mark

A four footer??

Ya up to it?

It's not a lightweight vacuform thing but a fiberglass cloth & resin hull with some areas as much as 1/4 inch thick. It's BIGGER than you think.
The fusion core is about 14 inches across.
It will require more light in it than most all LED's do.
The hull I have will need some teeny imperfections patched and sanded, AFTER the handling it will get to cut the gear leg slots, and the 3 upper hatches, and the main viewscreen and bubble. A dremel is just barely up to the task for the little holes, so I may end up with a compressed air powered tool for the leg slots.
The bubble is 4 1/2 inches across, and it needs a gearbox and motor and lights.
The fusion core will need 2-3 weekends to make it ready to install the spinning lights, gearbox, motor and batteries. THEN I have to make and attach all 32 fins. Big un's too.
The Landing gear legs and sliding doors have to be made as one assembly and they must be able to be slid thru the front window, or fusion core hole and put in place. I will most likely use 20 blind nuts per leg well to attach it to the hull. the legs will have to be done mostly in metal - bent steel sheet, pre-cut for those slots in the legs. Weight is already a factor with a big hull like that.

Will you be creating a step by step guide for this thing? Will you build up for others? Will you need a support group after you finnish this thing?

I have plans to write a "How To" type book with pictures of the LM 2 footer, and the four foot job. I will even tape the workings in motion for an enclosed DVD.

i have not sucessfully built mine yet, so I have no plans to make anyone elses four footer. I may already be insane so the support group may be too late, unless you mean support the model.......

Hey Y3A. What did you use for figures inside your 2' Lunar Jupiter 2? I am thinking about sculpting a set of figures for my Sci-fi Metropolis Jupiter 2. Also what scale do you figure these things are 1/25 ? Regards, Mark

I just 'eyeballed' the crude figures from the 4 foot model, and halfed it. O did mine from scraps from clothes pins and shaped them with a dremel tool. painted them silver, and put dobs of flesh paint for faces, and brown, black and orange for hair. I didn't even paint faces, but used a sharpie to draw lines on 'em to look like the crappy ones on the 4 footers figures. maybe Frets will sculpt us a set as if the 4 footer was sixty feet in diameter??

Here are some photos of my completed Sci-Fi Metropolis 2' Jupiter Two. Sorry for the wait. I have tried to send them to Bert, But keep having problems. I really like this kit. Nothing was warped when I recieved it. I also assembled it without the instructions. Again apologies for the wait. High Regards, Mark


Thanks for sharing the pix Mark - it looks great! :thumbsup:

I hope you figure out how to upload a videoclip too - I'd love to see it in action.


Now I'm getting really greedy ... :devil:

Any chance you can share larger pix than the thumbnail sized ones presently on the board?


If it's a matter of uploading versus emailing - feel free to email them to me at jup2_com@hotmail.com . :)

I'm glad to hear you received all the kit pieces and no wArPaGe too!

Thanks for sharing the pix Mark - it looks great! :thumbsup:

I hope you figure out how to upload a videoclip too - I'd love to see it in action.


Now I'm getting really greedy ... :devil:

Any chance you can share larger pix than the thumbnail sized ones presently on the board?


If it's a matter of uploading versus emailing - feel free to email them to me at jup2_com@hotmail.com . :)

I'm glad to hear you received all the kit pieces and no wArPaGe too!
Thanks for the kind words. I LOVE YOUR SITE!!!!!!!!Now I want a 2' GEMINI 12!

Thanks for the kind words. I LOVE YOUR SITE!!!!!!!!Now I want a 2' GEMINI 12!

Thank YOU for your kind words too!

Gemini XII ... hmmmmm... you know who ya got to talk to about one of those .... :dude: HENRY ! lol

Dunno if he'd make a go at a 24" one though.... IF anyone would it'd probably be Y3a or GXII ! ;)

Oops!

Forgot to mention that I got your email and checked out the UO-site.

Pretty cool LM J2 you built up there - I like the crew you did - COLORED outfits! Most J2 crew you see are in the silver flight suits. They really *POP* in your J2!

Still wondering though if you can get/take larger sized photos ...? :)

Here are more photos of my Sci-Fi Metropolis 2' Jupiter Two as well as my Lunar Spindrift and Flying Sub. The Lunar Spindrift has a Complete scratch Built interior and Custom Figures. As well as Full Lighting. The Lunar Flying Sub has the new Lunar Interior Kit and the Full VOODO FX Light Package .Enjoy!!! Regards, Mark

Oops!

Forgot to mention that I got your email and checked out the UO-site.

Pretty cool LM J2 you built up there - I like the crew you did - COLORED outfits! Most J2 crew you see are in the silver flight suits. They really *POP* in your J2!

Still wondering though if you can get/take larger sized photos ...? :)
I Plan on sending you larger photos. Hopefully in the next couple of days. Please feel free to post them on your site if you like. High Regards, Mark.

Excellent Beatlepaul, please post more pictures

I need accurate Bluprints of the Launch Cradle. Thats How I would like to display This Large Model. HELP!!!!!!!!!

HENRY !?!?!?!?! :wave:

I know a 12 inch version was one of his pet projects - he did a lot of research and might be able to help ya out - don't think he has any actual blueprints he went by though ...

what about the launch cradle that was for sale on cults site, 12 inch X 2 the dimensions = 24, would that work, is that launch cradle still available ?

this would look great on a 2 footer

Hey All -

Mark (beatlepaul) sent me more pictures of his Sci-Fi Metropolis 2' Jupiter 2 kit build-up to post on the Jup2.com website.

I added them this morning and you can check them out by clicking here (http://jupiter2.freeyellow.com/synthsis/SFMfanbuilds/BeatlePaul/sfmbuild.htm).

Thanks again Mark - your J2 looks great! :thumbsup:

he did a fantastic job on his Jupiter 2, Mike, do you know of anyone else who has recieved and started building theirs ?, hey Mark OUTSTANDING job my friend !
bert

Actually, Henry had made a part for the PL scale launch tower. I took it, made a mold of one side, changed the part so it would be the other side, molded it, and slogged off about 22 lefts and rights. I was in the process of making the rest of the parts, and Henry was ordering the ready made stuff like stairs. we were gonna sell 'em until someone else showed up with one. I still have those parts... Somewhere... The main circle/deck was being modified for wire channels for the floodlights. I had also made drawings for the 3 light towers on treads. OURS ISN'T SO FLAT.

Actually, Henry had made a part for the PL scale launch tower. I took it, made a mold of one side, changed the part so it would be the other side, molded it, and slogged off about 22 lefts and rights. I was in the process of making the rest of the parts, and Henry was ordering the ready made stuff like stairs. we were gonna sell 'em until someone else showed up with one. I still have those parts... Somewhere... The main circle/deck was being modified for wire channels for the floodlights. I had also made drawings for the 3 light towers on treads. OURS ISN'T SO FLAT.Y3a, Why don't you guys produce this as a Kit?? I for one would Buy one. I mean The whole deal, Cradle and LightTowers. I am sure others on this board would be interested as well. What do you say?? What would you need to get started? I want to fabricate a tower for my 2' Jupiter Two as well. Hey Model Maker, Thanks again for the kind words, Sir! Regards, Mark

Henry and I had already done most of the kit design and casting. The molds are the industrial Alumilite type, and the only part I was still woking on was a detailed circular 'deck' piece with under details to give it scale, and to hide any wiring for lights. The tred units and towers were still to be finalized. I was gonna make 2 treads, the body, and 4 pieces to be the tower. Ours was gonna be more detailed, and at a correct height, but more expensive. If about 20 or more folks want these I'll tawk wiff Henry about it.

Henry and I had already done most of the kit design and casting. The molds are the industrial Alumilite type, and the only part I was still woking on was a detailed circular 'deck' piece with under details to give it scale, and to hide any wiring for lights. The tred units and towers were still to be finalized. I was gonna make 2 treads, the body, and 4 pieces to be the tower. Ours was gonna be more detailed, and at a correct height, but more expensive. If about 20 or more folks want these I'll tawk wiff Henry about it.Well put me down for a kit. now you need 19 more guys.

count me in as well, there WAS one available on cults site i read the review of it and it had some issues with air bubbles. I want one of the launch cradles, even made out of wood, just need to get the dimensions to fit the PL jupiter 2, but what a way to display it.

I wood go for one. maybe 2

i'd be interested of course

henry and I had initially thought of an 24" square piece of plywood with a frame/false bottom as a display platform. the tower would go in the middle and the 3 tractor light towers about 4 inches out from the diameter of the Jupiter 2. The tower and light towers would be glued to the base and the wiring could all be hidden Underneath. I had also planned to put a security fence around it too, with guards standing around it. I thought about putting one guard in the dumpster too. Anyway, I'll see where all the stuff is and figure what else is left.

The list SO FAR:

beatlepaul
model maker
lisfan
woof359


Anyone else who wants one, copy the existing list, paste it into the reply and then add your name to the bottom. Once it gets near 20 I'll start putting all the parts together. I'll remember to lose lisfans kit in the mail(LOL). actually I'll be shipping UPS, and you'll get a tracking nummer when I ship.

henry and I had initially thought of an 24" square piece of plywood with a frame/false bottom as a display platform. the tower would go in the middle and the 3 tractor light towers about 4 inches out from the diameter of the Jupiter 2. The tower and light towers would be glued to the base and the wiring could all be hidden Underneath. I had also planned to put a security fence around it too, with guards standing around it. I thought about putting one guard in the dumpster too. Anyway, I'll see where all the stuff is and figure what else is left.

Hmmm......

Something like THIS (http://jupiter2.freeyellow.com/replicas/jimkeydio/jkdio01.jpg) Y ?

Sounds pretty kewl! :thumbsup:

The list SO FAR:

beatlepaul
model maker
lisfan
woof359


Anyone else who wants one, copy the existing list, paste it into the reply and then add your name to the bottom. Once it gets near 20 I'll start putting all the parts together. I'll remember to lose lisfans kit in the mail(LOL). actually I'll be shipping UPS, and you'll get a tracking nummer when I ship.

Did you guys happen to have a ballpark figure in price for one of these kits ?

Fret's lil figures ran around 45 bucks - just wondering what's an estimate for a much larger J2 pad and ganty set kit ...

Did you guys happen to have a ballpark figure in price for one of these kits ?

Fret's lil figures ran around 45 bucks - just wondering what's an estimate for a much larger J2 pad and ganty set kit ...





Well, Fret was paying someone to do the casting for him. Mark (y3a) will be doing the actualy casting, as he made the molds and all from my parts (and had started working on the underside of the circle/deck). Here is an example of his work (which I was quite impressed with):

http://www.tristatedata.com/share/001.jpg

Doing this kit will be not cheap, but it will be better than the crappy one that was available a few years back (I got one myself, which is what made me work so hard on trying to get this one a bit more accurate). The one I bought for $59 was made out of some strange, cheap plastic (it was REALLY soft, and had LOTS of air bubbles in it and was very warped). The pieces above that Mark made were VERY sturdy, straight, and very few air bubbles -- it would be much easier to slap together than the one I bought, which took hours to make look even marginal, and it was the wrong shape (the guy used plans I posted here on the message board that I had rough-drawn up, and the gantry was, once I looked at it, CLEARLY the wrong shape and way too short).

I don't know about all the extras Mark is talking about, but I do like the idea of the towers being available as well. I know him, they will be very cool indeed. We're speaking now about getting this project going again.

--Henry

BASIC FYI:

The cost of casting 6 legs and 1 circle and providing the stairs, railing materials, instructions packaging, shipping will be in the range of 80 bucks.

I had planned to offer the light towers for an additional 70 as the parts are harder to produce. I still have to make the circle mold, the cost of mold making materials is pricey. I'll have about 150 bucks in JUST THE MOLDS, before pouring even one part. If the mold has problems, it's pitched and I have to make another. In 20 pours of the legs, I got 16 that were acceptable, 2 with bubbles, 2 with overpour. The instructions will be written as i figure the best way to build it.

This will be a craftsman kit, not a snap-together affair. YOU'll need a twist drill to put the railings in the side of the circle. I've already put small detents where you must drill. The wiring is more tricky as the wiring is threaded thru before completion and the wires are hidden in the underside of the legs. I have thought about WHAT KIND of lights should be in it. Because of the small size of the light reflectors, LED's seem to be the best idea. two 9v batteries can power the whole thing.

Hey guys. It might be better to post this Launch cradle Kit in it's own thread. So Y3a and Henry could get more Hobby Talkers Interested???Regards, Mark

Good idea -- we will once we have an idea as to how much it will cost to build, what we can sell it for, and figure out when we have time to do it. Too much of this crap going on here about people pre-paying for stuff, and then not getting it or getting it six months later. Frankly, I don't want to take any money up front at all until we are close to being ready to ship. The good thing is, we'll be doing it ourselves, and not depending on outsiders (which sounds like that may have been the problem with the latest J-2 fiasco).

BTW, I did try to e-mail you a day or so after we talked about this, and it got returned -- your mailbox was full! I was not ignoring you!

--Henry

Good idea -- we will once we have an idea as to how much it will cost to build, what we can sell it for, and figure out when we have time to do it. Too much of this crap going on here about people pre-paying for stuff, and then not getting it or getting it six months later. Frankly, I don't want to take any money up front at all until we are close to being ready to ship. The good thing is, we'll be doing it ourselves, and not depending on outsiders (which sounds like that may have been the problem with the latest J-2 fiasco).

--Henry I believe that is the only way it should be done. Also Henry, when you guys do get everything squared away, I might be able to interest my local Hobby shop in Buying some kits. Of course it is up to you if you would like me to do it. Also Culttvman might want to sell some on his site. Don't mean to get ahead of anything just food for thought. High Regards, Mark

Oh, I'm sure Steve Iverson could move some... I just don't know how many we are going to make. I'm in the middle of moving my office, and Mark keeps pretty busy. Likely, we'd just collect names from this message board and email the interested parties when they are ready to ship. For anyone that backs out, we could either ebay the remaining kits or see if Iverson wants some. I'm going to talk with Mark again later about this to see how many he wants to do. I remember Frets sold out of the first 50 LIS figures in no time (did everyone finally get theirs from the 2nd casting?). Until I talke further with him, I don't know if Mark wants to make that many or even if he has the time. He's pretty picky -- He won't send out crappy stuff, so it all kind of depends on how the casting goes and how much interest there is. We'll start a new thread once he and I have had a chance to talk.

--Henry

hi henry, you can count me in for one for sure, keep me posted !
bert

Would someone please tell me where may I get drawings of the launch cradle, and gantry towers?

Hmmmm.....I don't know of any. The Alpha Control Reference manual has a drawing but I don't know how accurate it is.

Hmmmm.....I don't know of any. The Alpha Control Reference manual has a drawing but I don't know how accurate it is.

Thanks, for that info. I have the small LISA drawings, but I don't think they are much help. Thing is, there are J2 models in so many sizes, good launch pad and gantry drawings would be more helpful than just about anything else.

I thought someone said the Fox prop drawings still existed. Otherwise, perhaps some of us could pool some money, and pay for good new drawings of the original props, which are in Seattle?

Well, Fret was paying someone to do the casting for him. Mark (y3a) will be doing the actualy casting, as he made the molds and all from my parts (and had started working on the underside of the circle/deck). Here is an example of his work (which I was quite impressed with):

Doing this kit will be not cheap, but it will be better than the crappy one that was available a few years back (I got one myself, which is what made me work so hard on trying to get this one a bit more accurate). The one I bought for $59 was made out of some strange, cheap plastic (it was REALLY soft, and had LOTS of air bubbles in it and was very warped). The pieces above that Mark made were VERY sturdy, straight, and very few air bubbles -- it would be much easier to slap together than the one I bought, which took hours to make look even marginal, and it was the wrong shape (the guy used plans I posted here on the message board that I had rough-drawn up, and the gantry was, once I looked at it, CLEARLY the wrong shape and way too short).

I don't know about all the extras Mark is talking about, but I do like the idea of the towers being available as well. I know him, they will be very cool indeed. We're speaking now about getting this project going again.

--Henry

Thanks Henry & Nice to see ya posting here! :thumbsup:

Question though : You talking above about a kit in scale for a PL J2 or for a 2 foot J2?

I thought we started this conversation in regards of finding/making a launch pad in scale for a 2 foot J2 ... :freak: maybe I confuzed?

Would u & Y be making both scales? .... 12" scale only? ..... 2' scale only?

just a tower for the more purchased Polar Lights J2. I know we'd all die of old age before SFM ever got around to a 2 foot sized tower! LOL

I have NO PLANS for a 2 foot sized tower at this time. The costs go thru the roof on a model of this size cast in Alumilite or some other industrial 2 part plastic casting material. The molds and patterns would also be 4 times the cost. A set of drawings of the parts - that YOU could make in wood - would be a better idea for that size.

Good idea -- we will once we have an idea as to how much it will cost to build, what we can sell it for, and figure out when we have time to do it. Too much of this crap going on here about people pre-paying for stuff, and then not getting it or getting it six months later. Frankly, I don't want to take any money up front at all until we are close to being ready to ship. The good thing is, we'll be doing it ourselves, and not depending on outsiders (which sounds like that may have been the problem with the latest J-2 fiasco).

BTW, I did try to e-mail you a day or so after we talked about this, and it got returned -- your mailbox was full! I was not ignoring you!

--Henry

Hi, All.
I have regularly lurked but not posted in a long time. I would be interested in a launch cradle and towers (I guess this is for the PL sized model?). It would be great to have.

PS.
I think the shots of the Gemini XII look great, Henry..would love to see a finished version. Gemini XII is my favorite style of the LIS ship...wish Sci-fi Metro would do one...

Regards,
Jim

Hey Mark , :wave:

I've been emailing you offlist and I keep getting following messages in response :

Delivery Status Notification (Delay).

Just wondering if you've been getting my emails ok? :confused:

Mike