I just thought this was an interesting e-mail I just received:

INFINITE POWER IP3800SC
http://www.web-pros.com/bip2/IP3800a.jpg
Infinite Power Announces 3800mAh Cell Specifically for R/C Market

September 6th, 2005 - Infinite Power is proud to announce the release of their new 3800 mAh Sub-C cell. This new cell is specially formulated for RC applications. With a 3800mAh capacity, high voltage and low IR this cell will compete with current cells on the market.

Specifications:
Sub-C NiMH 1.2 Volt Rechargeable Battery*
Minimum Capacity 3600 mAh
Typical Capacity 3750 + mAh
Typical Voltage 1.17+
Typical IR: 1.8-2.2
Meets all IFMAR Specs
Submitted to ROAR for Approval
*All Typical Specs shown above come from virgin cells tested on Competition Electronics TM-4 at 30 Amps discharge.

About Infinite Power
Infinite Power was founded by Hugues-Andre Meloche, owner of Pole Position Batteries. With over fourteen years of battery matching experience, and direct collaboration with factories in China, Infinite Power is able to offer the same high quality cells to all battery matchers. Infinite Power is committed to offering only the highest quality products to the Radio Control market. For more information, visit our web site at http://www.infinite-power.net (http://www.infinite-power.net/).

Infinite Power
www.infinite-power.net (http://www.infinite-power.net/)
Email: sales@infinite-power.net (sales@infinite-power.net)

Curious to know if these are rewrapped IB 3800. Other companies like Epic and Orion rewrap cells to make them their own. Hopefully there will be more info on these soon.

They are a different cell. I've run a couple of the test packs. If the production cells are as good as the test cells they will be very good.

i notice in the specs. it says 3600 mah Min capacity, yet they are rated at 3800 mah... why is that? i thought they mah rating was the minimum.. My gp cells all peak higher then the listed 3300 mah capacity.. anyone know..

i notice in the specs. it says 3600 mah Min capacity, yet they are rated at 3800 mah... why is that? i thought they mah rating was the minimum.. My gp cells all peak higher then the listed 3300 mah capacity.. anyone know..

I'm quite sure (99.9%) they are "GREPOW" 3600mAh SC cells re-wrapped in a personalized (3800 mAh Infinite Power) cell shrink.

I know for a fact that they're currently above ROAR specs in size and they weight slightly more than current IB3800 cells (69g per cell versus 67g for IB3800).

The voltage and resistance are getting close with current IB3800 numbers but they have less runtime.

burbs ... The mAh rating is on discharge, not charge.

BTW, here are the current specs' on the IB3800 ...

Minimum capacity: 3888+ mAh.
Typical capacity: 4000+ mAh.

Steve Salvas
tqcells.com

So my post is well understood ... I'm just trying to share more info on these cells ... if someone says I'm wrong ... I'll be more than glad to admit that I was wrong.

Steve.

burbs ... The mAh rating is on discharge, not charge.



sorry typo.. it was 4 am here when i typed that post.. thanks for clearing that up

Thank you for your interest for our new cells. We will release more information early this week but I will still give you as much information as I can.

Our cells are different than IB3800s and GP3700s. So far, we are very happy with the performance of our new cells! And we are very confident that oval racers will really like our new Infinite Power cells. Please also note that we will offer our new cells to all matchers interested.

Burbs, to answer your question. 3600 mAh is a minimum capacity mentionned for reference only. The typical or average capacity of our cells is definitely higher. It is current in battery specs to have a minimum. Just as an example, at some point, Gold Peak minimum capacity on their 3300s was 3100mAh. Also, please do not compare the charging mAh of a pack (ie charge time) with its discharge mAh capacity. You can easily see the difference with a deadshorted GP3300, it will take 4000+ mAh of charge during charge but it only has a discharge capacity of 3000-3300 mAh. You probably knew this already but I thought I should mentionned it since we know that many racers are confusing these 2 ratings.

Also, please note that our cells meets all IFMAR specs, like the IB and GP cells. And like the GP3700 and IB3800, our cells are slightly above ROAR size measurement.

If you have any questions, please feel free to post them here. We will answer them as soon as possible. But please keep in mind that we will release more info early this week.

Thanks again for your interest,

Hugues-Andre
Infinite Power

... like the GP3700 and IB3800, our cells are slightly above ROAR size measurement.

H.-A. ... IB3800 are ROAR legal size!

IB3800 cells are below 43mm in length and below 23mm in diameter ... you better verify your source before posting here ...

Steve.
tqcells.com

oh boy am i glad im out of this bussiness !

"GP3700 (cells on the market now), IB3800(cells on the market now) and our new Infinite Power 3800 cells are ALL above ROAR current limit for lenght (43.00mm). However they are ALL fine with IFMAR standards."

Please note that we would never make a statement like this without measuring hundreds of GP3700 and hundreds of IB3800 cells.

With this being said, I don’t think that the racers are really interested to know if their cells are 42.9, 43.2, 43.4 or 43.5 mm long….. With the quantity of emails we received in the last day, we believe that many racers are looking forward to try our cells as soon as possible, so they can compared with their GP and IB cells.

Well, we are very happy with the response we have so far. We have received multiple emails already from racers and battery matchers. Racers are really looking forward to try these new cells! And we already have some well-known battery matchers very interested in our cells.

As I mentioned before, we will release more info early this week, like specific Runtime, Voltage and IR, etc.

Finally, to answer a question that we have had in basically every emails we received…. there will be packs available in some hobby shops at the end of this week and early next week!!


Hugues-Andre
Infinite Power

"IB3800(cells on the market now) ... above ROAR current limit for lenght (43.00mm) ... Please note that we would never make a statement like this without measuring hundreds of GP3700 and hundreds of IB3800 cells."

I guess you know more about IB3800 than I do ... how many thousands IB3800 cells have you cycled/matched? :confused:

I'll step out of your thread.

Actually, I should've never posted any comment here, I sincerely excuse myself for disturbing your sales pitch.

Steve. :wave:

Well there you have it folks, the mystery for now will remain...who's got the biggest cells?

:lol:

(this ain't a post)

Uh oh...We may have a Canadian war on our hands...:eek:
Please guys, not now... Our Salvation Army is really busy, and doesn't have time to be deployed to settle a battle on Canadian soil!!!:lol:

I'm sure the best cell will rise to the top...as usual.

I JUST HOPE THEY dont have w-o-m-d !

...weapons of mass destruction? Not unless it holds a hockey stick and travels across ice on skates...:thumbsup:

...Although I do remember Marcel "The Hammer" LaFrance tearing up some serious race cars on the DIRT circuit a few years ago...there was mass destruction in his wake...hmmm...

You think that you guys are funny? Aye? The only weapons of mass destructions up here is driving in the same car as The Batt Man after he ate some poutine ("poutine" is a Quebec delicacy!) and beer.

Canadians at work - Beware of the High Voltage

Antonio:devil:

Tony, do we have to give an exchange rate on voltage,a canadian cell that's 1.18 in canada may only be a 1.16 in the us.
Todd don't worry i still have the keys to the salvation army building in Plattsburgh, we are ready to deploy in combat if nessary,we'll fire at them with free cheese first and the send in welfare dwellers in hand to hand combat.

mightymidget

hahhahhahhahha!!!!!!!!! lol

Uh oh...We may have a Canadian war on our hands...:eek:
Please guys, not now... Our Salvation Army is really busy, and doesn't have time to be deployed to settle a battle on Canadian soil!!!:lol:

I'm sure the best cell will rise to the top...as usual.



TP your the man....lol

Midget: That's funny....heh heh...

Sonny B!!! Holy Smokes...How are ya man?!? Give me a call if you get 5 minutes...

Todd Putnam
Putnam Propulsion
518-452-0422

Well I can't let a good debate go by so how about this" Our exchange rate might suck in Canada but "Canadian Women Kick Ass and they take all there clothes off in the strip joints hahaha

Wheel'her

Well I can't let a good debate go by so how about this" Our exchange rate might suck in Canada but "Canadian Women Kick Ass and they take all there clothes off in the strip joints hahaha

Wheel'her

Can't argue with that! [Not that I've ever been in any strip joints to know for sure. :) ]

RC

I just thought this was an interesting e-mail I just received:

INFINITE POWER IP3800SC
http://www.web-pros.com/bip2/IP3800a.jpg
Infinite Power Announces 3800mAh Cell Specifically for R/C Market

September 6th, 2005 - Infinite Power is proud to announce the release of their new 3800 mAh Sub-C cell. This new cell is specially formulated for RC applications. With a 3800mAh capacity, high voltage and low IR this cell will compete with current cells on the market.

Specifications:
Sub-C NiMH 1.2 Volt Rechargeable Battery*
Minimum Capacity 3600 mAh
Typical Capacity 3750 + mAh
Typical Voltage 1.17+
Typical IR: 1.8-2.2
Meets all IFMAR Specs
Submitted to ROAR for Approval
*All Typical Specs shown above come from virgin cells tested on Competition Electronics TM-4 at 30 Amps discharge.

About Infinite Power
Infinite Power was founded by Hugues-Andre Meloche, owner of Pole Position Batteries. With over fourteen years of battery matching experience, and direct collaboration with factories in China, Infinite Power is able to offer the same high quality cells to all battery matchers. Infinite Power is committed to offering only the highest quality products to the Radio Control market. For more information, visit our web site at http://www.infinite-power.net (http://www.infinite-power.net/).

Infinite Power
www.infinite-power.net (http://www.infinite-power.net/)
Email: sales@infinite-power.net (sales@infinite-power.net)

Nice cell wrap, good luck! :thumbsup:

...They do have sporty looking cell shrink...wonder if Dusty designed it???

Well I can't let a good debate go by so how about this" Our exchange rate might suck in Canada but "Canadian Women Kick Ass and they take all there clothes off in the strip joints hahaha

Wheel'her
you Had too say'it
know your gonna have too let everybody into my house

looks like something Dusty would draw up...:)

Canadian Women Kick Ass and they take all there clothes off in the strip joints hahaha

I'll drink to that................

HAHAHAHAH Whooooooooo!!!!!

Dusty shmusty... ;)

andre, i need some of these new 3800's, i got some racerz who are interested.



junior barnes
R/C World & Raceway

I just thought this was an interesting e-mail I just received:

INFINITE POWER IP3800SC
http://www.web-pros.com/bip2/IP3800a.jpg
Specifications:
Sub-C NiMH 1.2 Volt Rechargeable Battery*
Minimum Capacity 3600 mAh
Typical Capacity 3750 + mAh
Typical Voltage 1.17+
Typical IR: 1.8-2.2
Meets all IFMAR Specs
Submitted to ROAR for Approval
*All Typical Specs shown above come from virgin cells tested on Competition Electronics TM-4 at 30 Amps discharge.



What's the big deal??? IB3800 have 1.17-1.18 @ 35 amps :eek:

Later, Bret

As his post says he thought it was an intresting email.Everyone else came on and bashed other batteries!

BRET virgin IB3800's don't have 1.17 to 1.18 a/v at 35, only after zapping do they have that kind of voltage. As stated in the origanal post, but most people who posted here haven't had anything to say about the cells at all.

I would think the voltage would increase after the cells are zapped.

mike beat me to it, story of my life ha

I have run these cells a few times, before the had shirk wrap on them, just a piece of clear. I was every bite as with them ,as I was with the GP3700's and Faster then the IB3800's. Running 19 turn at few tracks (don't want to say which tracks due to the legalness of running them, lol

BRET virgin IB3800's don't have 1.17 to 1.18 a/v at 35, only after zapping do they have that kind of voltage. As stated in the origanal post, but most people who posted here haven't had anything to say about the cells at all.

Ah, The VIRGIN part just went right over my head.

Why would you skip the zapping part anyway???

Later, Bret

JET, he's not skipping the zapping, just posting Manufacturer's specs for reference, until he has sufficient production quantities done to give more acurate numbers. I've got to run the test cells a lot, and these things are stompers!!!! In both 19turn and MOD, consistently 2+seconds faster than anything else I've run. (and I heard the production stuff is even better than the samples!). OH, and after 10-12 runs, still holding cycle numbers(both runtime packs, and deadshort packs) These are the real deal!!

Ran the cells tonight for the first time. They were fast out of the box, and were better the second run of the night post a short dead short. TQ & Win first time out isn't bad... :thumbsup:

What about round 3 ??? about 2 minues in. I recall hearing a cry for Koback from the drivers stand. . :rolleyes: Sorry had to do it.. lol

Hung a brush...fired the motor guy ;)

Hung a brush...fired the motor guy ;)

Good thinking..A good motor guy is hard to find these days...LOL

We're finally ready to release more info....

Typical numbers after zapping : (TM-4 at 30A discharge)
Runtime: 445 sec. +
Voltage: 1.185V+ with 1.19+ available to all
Internal Resistance: 1.7-2.0

Also, so far our cells are reacting very well to deadshorting.

Please note that many hobby shops will receive their first shipments of Infinite Power 3800 cells this week. For racers interested, RC4Less and Lefthander RC should have them in stock this week. Our IP3800s will be also available at the onsite hobby shop at the IIC race this week in Las Vegas.

We are also very confident to see more battery matchers carry our cells soon. Many matchers are very interested. And some matchers are already testing them.

If you have any questions, please feel free to post them here.

Hugues-Andre
Infinite Power

First of all the IP cells will be tested by many.
Second they need to be roar approved, or track approved.
Third If you have not tried them you should not trash talk them.
Remember thats the sin of all sins, it may bite you in the ass.
I will try them and form my own opinion so should you.
("Just a thought you may want to think about")

We received our first shipment of these cells and they look great. I'll be building a pack this weekend and doing some cycling. Have a couple of customers doing the same thing. Will report back what our T35's come up with.

Bt

Hey Bruce Do you have a price yet on these batteries??
Andy
Just checked the site. Disregard.

So how is this cell looking as far as ROAR approval is concerned?

Doug P

Well, either it's looking like they will be approved, or a lot of tracks aren't going to care about the ROAR rules -- there are a LOT of IB3800 and IP3800's in pit boxes already.