Do some of you feel that the prophecies of the last days are happening as the Bible foretold? Roving gangs in New Orleans are raping, killing, robbing people....That flood was the worst disaster to ever hit the U.S.

It's scary...

No. :rolleyes:

In no way what so ever.

If you can show me in the Bible where it says there will be a category 5 hurricane in 2005 that will bullseye New Orleans and that the levees won't hold because the Army Corps of Engineers built the levees to sustain only a Level 3 hurricane because they calculated that there was merely an .05 chance of such an event occuring - then, yeah, I'll believe we're in tha last days. Otherwise, the answer is no. Jesus! Everybody's got a freakin' agenda.

Hell, everybody knows Nostradamus predicted the whole thing. Or was it Criswell?

I thought it was Kreskin?!?!

Interesting that this should come up.

My SO's step-father, Ralph, is a christian fundimentalist who loves Bush and thinks he's a godly man. Okay, whatever, everyone has a different take on Godliness and that's fine. When pushed on politics and particularly this administration's deficit spending, his answer is (and I'm not kidding) that we'll never have to pay any of that debt back because "The Rapture" is just around the corner. Honestly, Ralph is kind and generous person, but he's also not a deep thinker, he didn't come up with that idea on his own. So if there's one fundimentalist out there who's got this in his head, there are more.

Ralph has been very sick for the last week and an half, at the same time Katrina has been the center of news. I was thinking yesterday morning how I wasn't sure I was seeing much in the way of Christian charity reflected in how this administration was reacting to the disaster (lets not even talk about OHS). Then, I got a call that Ralph had died. Not sure what it all means, but there it is.

John O.

John, sorry to hear about that.
Regarding the thread question, No.

Do some of you feel that the prophecies of the last days are happening as the Bible foretold? Roving gangs in New Orleans are raping, killing, robbing people....That flood was the worst disaster to ever hit the U.S.

It's scary...

Well, scientist say we're getting worse storms because the mean temperature of the Gulf of Mexico has risen one degree over the last thirty-forty years probably due to not addressing the greenhouse effect. Others say that's just a fantasy, but either way the fact the Gulf is warmer seems to be fuelling storm systems.

So no.

Of course, the hurricane forecasters are saying Florida can still expect 8 tropical storms including 3 major ones this season, so I reserve the right to change my mind.

*rolls eyes*

Time for the med's.

Well, it probably feels like the end times for the people who are dying down there, even if they're not christians.

But the Hindu Kali Yuga cycles don't predict the End Times until the year 2010, so I'm not gonna worry for another 5 years.

btw, what does Revellations say about the Indian Ocean coast being wiped out?

Interesting that this should come up.

My SO's step-father, Ralph, is a christian fundimentalist who loves Bush and thinks he's a godly man. Okay, whatever, everyone has a different take on Godliness and that's fine. When pushed on politics and particularly this administration's deficit spending, his answer is (and I'm not kidding) that we'll never have to pay any of that debt back because "The Rapture" is just around the corner. Honestly, Ralph is kind and generous person, but he's also not a deep thinker, he didn't come up with that idea on his own. So if there's one fundimentalist out there who's got this in his head, there are more.


John O.


This is called "Dominion Theology" and it applies to the environment and natural resources as well. It is embraced by a significant number of Christian fundamentalists. Many of those same people believe George Bush has been anointed by the Almighty to lead us to Armageddon. The thing that most tickles me about any religion is how utterly egocentric it's adherents can be: "Because I want something for my own very selfish reasons - then clearly it is what God wants." Pat Robertson claims he prayed away a hurricane in '95. I guess he was preoccupied this time around.

Pat Robertson claims he prayed away a hurricane in '95. I guess he was preoccupied this time around.

Now that's not fair, obviously he was preoccupied keeping an christian eye on Venezuela.

This is called "Dominion Theology" and it applies to the environment and natural resources as well. It is embraced by a significant number of Christian fundamentalists. Many of those same people believe George Bush has been anoited by the Almighty to lead us to Armageddon. The thing that most tickles me about any religion is how utterly egocentric it's adherents can be: "Because I want something for my own very selfish reasons - then clearly it is what God wants." Pat Robertson claims he prayed away a hurricane in '95. I guess he was preoccupied this time around.
You know Revelations mentions that in the "End Times" there will be many false prophets....HMMMMM........George bush annoited by the almighty.....God help us all.

God's Song (That's Why I Love Mankind)

by Randy Newman

Cain slew Abel, Seth knew not why
For if the children of Israel were to multiply
Why must any of the children die?
So he asked the Lord
And the Lord said:

Man means nothing, he means less to me
Than the lowliest cactus flower
Or the humblest Yucca tree
He chases round this desert
'Cause he thinks that's where I'll be
That's why I love mankind

I recoil in horror from the foulness of thee
From the squalor and the filth and the misery
How we laugh up here in heaven at the prayers you offer me
That's why I love mankind

The Christians and the Jews were having a jamboree
The Buddhists and the Hindus joined on satellite TV
They picked their four greatest priests
And they began to speak
They said, "Lord, a plague is on the world
Lord, no man is free
The temples that we built to you
Have tumbled into the sea
Lord, if you won't take care of us
Won't you please, please let us be?"
And the Lord said
And the Lord said

I burn down your cities-how blind you must be
I take from you your children and you say how blessed are we
You all must be crazy to put your faith in me
That's why I love mankind
You really need me
That's why I love mankind

And the man said to God, what's a million years to you?
And God said, a minute.

And the man said to God, what's a million dollars to you?
And God said, a penny.

And the man said to God, can I have a penny?
And God said, sure - in a minute.


:dude:

And what does all this have to do with models? Well, when I'm having trouble getting stubborn parts to fit properly, I frequently invoke the Supreme Being. . . This is called "Dominion Theology" and it applies to the environment and natural resources as well. It is embraced by a significant number of Christian fundamentalists. Many of those same people believe George Bush has been anointed by the Almighty to lead us to Armageddon. The thing that most tickles me about any religion is how utterly egocentric its adherents can be: "Because I want something for my own very selfish reasons - then clearly it is what God wants." Pat Robertson claims he prayed away a hurricane in '95. I guess he was preoccupied this time around.
Predicting the Apocalypse is nothing new. The early Christians in the Roman Empire were convinced they were living in the end times. All I want to know about this Armageddon thing is: Is it good or bad for the Jews?

BTW, good thing we're staying away from the touchy subject of RELIGION!

All I want to know about this Armageddon thing is: Is it good or bad for the Jews?

Depends on which version you subscribe to. In the Christian version it's a good thing. In the Muslim version, it's a very bad thing. To be honest, I can't wrap my head around what the Hindus believe, but they don't mention the Jews at all. And the Buddhists are really laid back. They don't even have an apocalyptic tradition.

As far as we can tell here in New Jersey, Hindus believe store clerks are scum and were put upon the Earth to serve them. That's just what my wife took away from her retail jobs in Hackensack in the 70s - no offense to any more recent non-haughty Hindus out there.


I have a book somewhere called "1000 AD," recounting what life was like the day the first millenium turned. Folks were generally more religious back then (and if not, they were burned ;)), and there was much panic across Europe waiting for the trumpet to sound. Here in America around that time, not so much. :D

Geo. Bush must be the Prophet, after all, he is all-powerful and CAUSED hurricane Katrina. Or hadn't you heard..?

:rolleyes:

I think God was aiming for Crawford TX and missed, in which case did he say "Me, damn it" ?

Has anyone heard about the dyslexic insomniac that would lay awake at nights pondering the mysteries of Dog? :dude:

To answer the question at the beginning of this thread, no. Someone somewhere raises this same question every time some kind of disaster strikes. The flood, by the way, was caused decades ago by city planners too stupid to listen to sound advice when they were told not to set-up camp in that particular location because it was below sea level. Doesn't sound very Biblical to me.

To paraphrase George Carlin, the world will be just fine. The people, on the other hand...

No. Bible says we won't have any idea when the end of days is coming, so be prepared, be a good person and don't worry about it.

Don't worry, be happy...
Bobby McFerrin

What, Me Worry?
Alfred E. Neuman

Could you supply me a quote where someone said that? I haven't heard that.

Geo. Bush must be the Prophet, after all, he is all-powerful and CAUSED hurricane Katrina. Or hadn't you heard..?

:rolleyes:

George Dumberthenya Bush couldn't spell Hurricane Katrina let alone cause it.

Geo. Bush must be the Prophet, after all, he is all-powerful and CAUSED hurricane Katrina. Or hadn't you heard..?

:rolleyes:

Yes. A Muslim co-worker told me that Allah was really pissed about the invasion of Iraq and took out New Orleans in retribution. On a related note, Donald Rumsfeld had this to say about the looting in New Orleans:

"Freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things," Rumsfeld said. "They're also free to live their lives and do wonderful things. And that's what's going to happen here."
Looting, he added, was not uncommon for cities that experience significant social upheaval. "Stuff happens," Rumsfeld said.

Ah...another bit of poetry from Rummy...

My campus has a "speaker's circle," which happens to be right outside of my building. Mostly, it attracts all manner of fundamentalist nutjobs who have nothing better to do than tell us that we're all going to hell. The past few days, I've been waiting to hear one of them say that New Orleans was destroyed by God in retribution for wickedness, which would probably lead to a short debate, me behaving in a very antisocial manner, and my arrest. Thankfully, this hasn't come to pass.

The universe isn't ending anytime soon, unless every physicist on the planet is very, very wrong. Cope with it, you're not getting a free pass out of life, unless you do something insanely self-destructive. Don't empty that 401(k) anytime soon. :cool:

To paraphrase that wise man of the 19th century, Samuel Clemens, on the subject of religion: one man's myth is as good as any other's.

Dueling Deities Declare Damnation!!!



"Al Qaeda Group in Iraq, which is led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, on Sunday praised in an Internet statement what it said was the "start of the collapse" of the United States after the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina.


"Congratulations to the Islamic nation, to our sheikh Osama abu Abdullah (Osama bin Laden) and to sheikh Ayman Zawahiri (bin Laden's deputy) for the destruction of America, which is at the forefront of evil. It is the start of its collapse."

The statement was referring to the hurricane which left some 10,000 dead.

In recent days, Islamists websites connected between the storm and the "US war against Islam." According to them, Katrina was sent by Allah to torment the American empire."



... and


"PHILADELPHIA - Just days before "Southern Decadence", an annual homosexual celebration attracting tens of thousands of people to the French Quarters section of New Orleans, Hurricane Katrina destroys the city.


"Southern Decadence" has a history of filling the French Quarters section of the city with drunken homosexuals engaging in sex acts in the public streets and bars. Last year, a local pastor sent video footage of sex acts being performed in front of police to the mayor, city council, and the media. City officials simply ignored the footage and continued to welcome and praise the weeklong celebration as being an "exciting event". However, Hurricane Katrina has put an end to the annual celebration of sin.

On the official "Southern Decadence" website (www.SouthernDecadence.com (http://www.southerndecadence.com/)), it states that the annual event brought in "125,000 revelers" to New Orleans last year, increasing by thousands each year, and up from "over 50,000 revelers" in 1997. This year’s 34th annual "Southern Decadence" was set for Wednesday, August 31, 2005 through Monday, September 5, 2005, but due to massive flooding and the damage left by the hurricane, Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco has ordered everyone to evacuate the city.

The past three mayors of New Orleans, including Sidney Barthelomew, Marc H. Morial, and C. Ray Nagin, issued official proclamations welcoming visitors to "Southern Decadence". Additionally, New Orleans City Council made other proclamations recognizing the annual homosexual celebration.

"Although the loss of lives is deeply saddening, this act of God destroyed a wicked city," stated Repent America director Michael Marcavage. "From 'Girls Gone Wild' to 'Southern Decadence,' New Orleans was a city that had its doors wide open to the public celebration of sin. From the devastation may a city full of righteousness emerge," he continued.

New Orleans was also known for its Mardi Gras parties where thousands of drunken men would revel in the streets to exchange plastic jewelry for drunken women to expose their breasts and to engage in other sex acts. This annual event sparked the creation of the "Girls Gone Wild" video series. Furthermore, Louisiana had a total of ten abortion clinics with half of them operating in New Orleans, where countless numbers of children were murdered at the hands of abortionists. Additionally, New Orleans has always been known as one of the "Murder Capitals of the World" with a rate ten times the national average.

"We must help and pray for those ravaged by this disaster, but let us not forget that the citizens of New Orleans tolerated and welcomed the wickedness in their city for so long," Marcavage said. "May this act of God cause us all to think about what we tolerate in our city limits, and bring us trembling before the throne of Almighty God," Marcavage concluded."







.... so far, Buddha and Vishnu (through their earthly spokesmen) have remained silent as to whether they too were pissed at New Orleans.

I can almost see Pat Robertson slapping some legal adviser/flunkie and ranting, "You let them beat me to it!".

Good grief. What century is this??:rolleyes: Where do these people get off?

Well, we know what they got off ON...

Seriously, if this was God smiting the gays, wouldn't he have waited for the event to be in full swing?

As for Bin Laden - I suspected he had something to do with this!

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Everyone knows Bin ladin has a hurricane generator....he bought it from Dr.Evil

Everyone knows Bin ladin has a hurricane generator....he bought it from Dr.Evil

He apparently bought a cloak of invisibility somewhere too.

I think he bought that from Harry Potter...probably cost him a few Galleons. :tongue:

Seriously, if this was God smiting the gays, wouldn't he have waited for the event to be in full swing?


... or taken out Vatican City first? I think it was those "Girls Gone Wild" videos that really sent God over the edge. And interesting that he would kill the poorest and weakest men, women, and children in New Orleans because they didn't exercise more political clout in keeping the Big Easy sufficiently "righteous". I'm guessing a significant number of corpses rotting beneath those floodwaters were professing Christians. Hmmm, maybe it was Allah that did it.

Well, if you buy that argument, then God must love, and decided to spare the wrath of Katrina on, all those God-fearing Family-value-lovin' conservative religious heterosexuals that make up the majority of the Florida Keys? Boy, the tourist board is gonna be thrilled to hear that!

I can see the billboard & magazine ads now, "FantasyFest 2006!-God Says Thumb's Up! :thumbsup: "

Do they even think about this stuff before they spew it?

Do they even think about this stuff before they spew it?


ROFLMAO!!!! Oh thats a good one!!
That makes me laugh as hard as someone saying "I'm sure Bush really cares about those stricken people in N.O. with no political concern involved what so ever."

I'm sure that somewhere, someway, a plot is being hatched to blame this on Clinton. Oughta be a good one.

I'm sure that somewhere, someway, a plot is being hatched to blame this on Clinton. Oughta be a good one.

That goes without saying, seeing as how these folks take no responsibility what so ever for anything. Unless, for once, it actually turns out to NOT be a failure.
It would probably start with Carter having messed something up, Nancy...umm err Ronald Regan and Duffus Senior actually fixed up Carters mess, and then Clinton threw it into the toilet again and poor dumberthenya Bush just never had time to fix it again.

Living in the bottom of a bowl with the ocean at the rim is a STUPID IDEA!

Just like living on a Mississippi river flood plain.

Stupid spelled with TWO "O" s. (STOOPID)

Living in the bottom of a bowl with the ocean at the rim is a STUPID IDEA!

Just like living on a Mississippi river flood plain.

Stupid spelled with TWO "O" s. (STOOPID)

Or building major cities on a fault line giving them a 100% chance of being destroyed some day. Or building houses on the old lava flows at the base of an actictive volcano.

Living in the bottom of a bowl with the ocean at the rim is a STUPID IDEA! Just like living on a Mississippi river flood plain.

Or building major cities on a fault line giving them a 100% chance of being destroyed some day. Or building houses on the old lava flows at the base of an actictive volcano.
Or building cities where killer tornadoes sweep the plains every summer. Or living in the hills where the dry brush just about guarantees wildfires every couple of years. Or living where there are snowstorms every winter. . .Let's face it, the only truly safe place to live is Antarctica -- that is, if you don't mind the minus-50 temperature and having penguins and a few aging scientists for neighbors.

I blame it all on

Amish Girls Gone Wild!

Churn that butter!

Show us thine ankles!!

:jest:

"Life is good, I live in a trailer park in Kansas with floridated water, and I drive a new Ford Pinto with Firestone 500 tires! They just sprayed the field next door with DDT for our protection against skeeters, and my pregnant wife is on that new miracle drug thalidomide!"