RCScrewZ Speedway (livonia, Michigan) is hosting the ROAR Region 5 US Indoor Carpet Championships. Follow the Link Below for information, dates and the entry form. Don’t Miss out – check out our website for track and pro-shop pics.

http://www.rcscrewz.com/Roar%20Carpet%20Championships%202005.pdf

Thanks,
Keith Bergevin
Owner

The dates are october 19th - 23rd ,the track is the best in this state. the track phone#(734)765-8870

Keith,


I would recomend changing the schedule. For a regional race you have a nationals schedule. I would suggest 3 rounds of qualifing on saturday and a 4th qualifer and the mains on sunday.

Walter Henderson

Think the deadline might need to be extended on the flyer? It sez August 1st.

Also, I was wondering when the carpet was going to be layed back down. Vegas is in a month and some people are asking where they can come and practice.


Tim

Think the deadline might need to be extended on the flyer? It sez August 1st.

Also, I was wondering when the carpet was going to be layed back down. Vegas is in a month and some people are asking where they can come and practice.


Tim


Last I (over)heard was the carpet was going down at the end of this month.

I agree with Walter [edited] See you in Toledo

We will be changing qualifying to (4) saturday an (1) on sunday + mains - change will be made this week and posted on the website!

Halo Hobbies will be hosting IIC Warm-Up Event on August 25th-28th - $20.00 for 4 days of practice and racing.

Due to the fact that RC Screws knew about our IIC Warm-Up and decided to host a "Texas Hold'em" event on the same day as us (after I dropped fliers for the event off at Screw's track) we will be kind enough to return the favor.

SAME WEEKEND AS THE REGIONALS: Halo Hobbies Grand Prix $20.00 Entry, same schedule as the IIC event with complimentary pizza & pop for everyone in attendance (Sat evening).

Sorry Keith, you stiffed us on the money series and now this. Completely uncalled for.....

Well this sucks,
we obviously can't do both.

WOW.......eenee, meenee, minee, mo ---- which one would be the best to go? Catch a racer by the toe...if he hollars, let him go---eenee, meenee, minee, mo

Halo Hobbies will be hosting IIC Warm-Up Event on August 25th-28th - $20.00 for 4 days of practice and racing.

Due to the fact that RC Screws knew about our IIC Warm-Up and decided to host a "Texas Hold'em" event on the same day as us (after I dropped fliers for the event off at Screw's track) we will be kind enough to return the favor.

SAME WEEKEND AS THE REGIONALS: Halo Hobbies Grand Prix $20.00 Entry, same schedule as the IIC event with complimentary pizza & pop for everyone in attendance (Sat evening).

Sorry Keith, you stiffed us on the money series and now this. Completely uncalled for.....
Sad. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Holy Moly. Trackwars.

Decisions, Decisions, Decisions. The entry price doesn't bother me at 'screwz, and free food definately is a plus.

Crap.

Tim

Uh we paid off our guys for the money series (I told you that when you were here - we paid shaen planko - and you were suppose to pay your guy - since we never got any pot entry from either week at your place) and the texas holdem series is for the local racers only - not everyone is going down to las vegas. Your warm race is for the attendies of the vegas race - our local races are in michigan not in ohio so we can run any race we want - I am sure there is a race in california that weeekend to - but I won't schedule around it. The 15 guys who come here every tuesday night are not going to vegas - so we are holding weekend racing for them and whoever wants to race who's not attending Vegas. We are also holding another poker run during the cleveland race - for those who cannot attend that either.

No wars - two different tracks in two different states - race where you like to race. Either race local or travel it's up to the racer.

Halo Hobbies will be hosting IIC Warm-Up Event on August 25th-28th - $20.00 for 4 days of practice and racing.

Due to the fact that RC Screws knew about our IIC Warm-Up and decided to host a "Texas Hold'em" event on the same day as us (after I dropped fliers for the event off at Screw's track) we will be kind enough to return the favor.

SAME WEEKEND AS THE REGIONALS: Halo Hobbies Grand Prix $20.00 Entry, same schedule as the IIC event with complimentary pizza & pop for everyone in attendance (Sat evening).

Sorry Keith, you stiffed us on the money series and now this. Completely uncalled for.....
Before this thread turns into a war (like stamper calls it - which is totally wrong) I want to apologize to Josh for stepping on his toes. But I did not advertise this race (the texas holdem) on any dicussion boards - I am not trying to pull racers from anyone (the last texas race we had only 8 people anyways). I am a track owner trying to make my rent and I have to hold as many local races as it takes to do this. Josh (if you are reading this) all the local diehard racers (people who do travel to big events) like tim stamper, Dave johnson, james riley, greg anthony will be at your place they haven't come to the last several races (poker and texas) we have held. I know if i didn't have a business to run - I would be there too to see the big names in attendance - we passed out all your fliers for your race over the past several weeks so everyone in our club know about it - any many (mentioned above) will be in attendance. I am doing these races for the guys like bob silervi and ken compton who are just typical racers who love to race but not on the big scene just locally. I wish you the best on the race your holding during our regionals -(you have to make rent also). I hope you get a good turn out - probably some of our local guys will be attending your race also (they don't do big events). So for future refernece every month we are holding either a texas holdem race or poker run on one weekend (dates are unknown as of right now - but usuallay either the 2nd or 4th sunday). So I am ending any further comments from me on this thread. If there are any questions on the regional race or inquires on adding 1/12th stock or masters class ( need at least 3 racers to make a class) please let us know ASAP at 734.765.8870 or email us at sales@rcscrewz.com.

Sorry greg - dave said you were going. I am taking gregs name out of the last reply . I am sorry greg -

Keith - Funny, I thought the money series was for 19T and stock (that was what we understood it as)??? If not, then why were the 19T drivers charged $20.00 also??

Also, I was told an RC Screws rep(yourself) would be at the last race to pass out the $$. I missed the 3rd race due to my wife's illness so I thought things were to be squared up at the 4th and final race at our track. Only Sean showed up from Screws to the last race at Halo. How long did it take to get the actual points tally from the series??? That's right, I still don't have them as you never e-mailed me. I believe that 19T drivers who finished 1,2,3 were all from Halo. I'm not worried about my portion of the series $$ but it would have been nice to pay those places out with the "series" money (not my own pocket) as it was supposed to be.

As far as different states - That's a joke, we are only an hour away from each other and many of the same racers attend both tracks. I won't litter on your threads anymore and I wish you luck with your track.

We never received funds from your track to pay anyone - so we had to pay from our pockets for the stock winner - as far as 19turn there were (average between all races) only 5 racers so - first and second only get paid not all (3) and only (3) racers average for stock - so only 1st got paid. the (3rd) race in the series we had (2) stock racers and no 19turn nor mod racers. So we paid the stock racer who won (from michigan) - so it would figure you could pay your racers ** no matter how far we are apart - we never tried to steal a race or racers -we have our own group and thats what I care about and thats who these club events are for. Racers make the track not the other way.

Josh almost forgot - good luck on your new car project - seen many pictures online- car definatley looks different and a very potential world champion vehicle in the making.

thanks, Keith

So you changed the rules of the series as you saw fit?? Not as advertised?? If the prize money was $5.00 then it should have been sorted and paid as advertised. As far as recieving money from our track - I believe the first series day there were 18 entries - 10 for 19t and 8 for stock - that's $90.00 in prize $$ that was to be awarded. Your next race only had 2 people in stock - Ok, the total was $100.00 in prize money - the same total we had from our track.

Basically there should have been $90.00 in prize money to stock and $110.00 for 19T between our tracks:

Stock:

Sean Planko $45.00
Luie Szilagy $27.00
3rd Place?? $18.00

19T:

Josh Cyrul $55.00
Casey Buedoin $33.00
Rick Monahan $22.00

We have had several inquires now for the addition of some classes for this race
(1/12 Masters and 1/12 Stock) The new updated application is now available on line at:
http://www.rcscrewz.com/Roar%20Carpet%20Championships%202005.pdf

Thanks

Have there been any approved deviations from the ROAR Rule Book for this event?

Have there been any approved deviations from the ROAR Rule Book for this event?
None that comes to mind - is there something we are missing - let me know

None that comes to mind - is there something we are missing - let me know

No it would be something that you asked ROAR to have differently then the normal rules.

Before this thread turns into a war (like stamper calls it - which is totally wrong) I want to apologize to Josh for stepping on his toes. But I did not advertise this race (the texas holdem) on any dicussion boards - I am not trying to pull racers from anyone (the last texas race we had only 8 people anyways). I am a track owner trying to make my rent and I have to hold as many local races as it takes to do this. Josh (if you are reading this) all the local diehard racers (people who do travel to big events) like tim stamper, Dave johnson, james riley, greg anthony will be at your place they haven't come to the last several races (poker and texas) we have held. I know if i didn't have a business to run - I would be there too to see the big names in attendance - we passed out all your fliers for your race over the past several weeks so everyone in our club know about it - any many (mentioned above) will be in attendance. I am doing these races for the guys like bob silervi and ken compton who are just typical racers who love to race but not on the big scene just locally. I wish you the best on the race your holding during our regionals -(you have to make rent also). I hope you get a good turn out - probably some of our local guys will be attending your race also (they don't do big events). So for future refernece every month we are holding either a texas holdem race or poker run on one weekend (dates are unknown as of right now - but usuallay either the 2nd or 4th sunday). So I am ending any further comments from me on this thread. If there are any questions on the regional race or inquires on adding 1/12th stock or masters class ( need at least 3 racers to make a class) please let us know ASAP at 734.765.8870 or email us at sales@rcscrewz.com.

War.... Okay, a small misunderstanding that leads to people being dragged into the thick of things when they don't deserve to deal with the issues brought forth before them. War was shorter and easier to type.

Actually, I won'r be able to make it to Josh's race on the 28th due to the MORL. Which only a couple of the guys that ran the race at your track where the series started showed up to the second race. And the drccc held a series race the same day as the second race. People are constantly stepping on other people's toes trying to stay afloat and it's the racers that get stuck in the middle being used as pawns and excuses for bad turnouts.

I haven't been to your track on tuesdays because I have been working till 6 or 7 every day, not because I've been going down to Josh's everyday like most folks would think. I was there for you from day 1 to help out and 2 people not showing up isn't the reason for the dead season. a slow season has effected all local tracks. You have an awesome track and I really like that it is 10 minutes away, but I don't like the I tried to come by last Sunday and I brought someone else with me and at 1:30, the doors were locked and the lights were off. I get up for work at 5:45am and it is hard staying at a track 'till 10:00 or 10:30 during the week lately.

I would like it to be known that I have put a lot of effort to keep your track going over the past year donating my time and whatever resource you need and now since I have been working a bunch I am an outcast that turns his back on the little guy. That's not what anyone who has been in this for 19 years shoots for.

Anyways, the last time I came by on a tuesday there were just a handful of people there to race and most people there bitch that i race there anyways. I race for a chassis manufacturer, so I shouldn't be able to race the class that I am trying to get better at for the real races. That's absolute BS.

I am getting ready for a few big carpet races and had to sell almost all of my cars to fund these races. The current carpet car that I have is borrowed and he told me that under no circumstances am I to run it on asphalt because it is a one-off chassis. I have gone to Josh's the last 2 saturdays just because Reilly has gone and I hitched a ride. I can barely afford gas in my car to go back and forth to work. At $3 a gallon and 100 miles a day, life sucks.

Please don't name drop and think that people are playing favorites. The carpet season is upon us, and when you roll out the carpet, I will probably be there practicing .

Thanks for everything,

Tim

War.... Okay, a small misunderstanding that leads to people being dragged into the thick of things when they don't deserve to deal with the issues brought forth before them. War was shorter and easier to type.

Actually, I won'r be able to make it to Josh's race on the 28th due to the MORL. Which only a couple of the guys that ran the race at your track where the series started showed up to the second race. And the drccc held a series race the same day as the second race. People are constantly stepping on other people's toes trying to stay afloat and it's the racers that get stuck in the middle being used as pawns and excuses for bad turnouts.

I haven't been to your track on tuesdays because I have been working till 6 or 7 every day, not because I've been going down to Josh's everyday like most folks would think. I was there for you from day 1 to help out and 2 people not showing up isn't the reason for the dead season. a slow season has effected all local tracks. You have an awesome track and I really like that it is 10 minutes away, but I don't like the I tried to come by last Sunday and I brought someone else with me and at 1:30, the doors were locked and the lights were off. I get up for work at 5:45am and it is hard staying at a track 'till 10:00 or 10:30 during the week lately.

I would like it to be known that I have put a lot of effort to keep your track going over the past year donating my time and whatever resource you need and now since I have been working a bunch I am an outcast that turns his back on the little guy. That's not what anyone who has been in this for 19 years shoots for.

Anyways, the last time I came by on a tuesday there were just a handful of people there to race and most people there bitch that i race there anyways. I race for a chassis manufacturer, so I shouldn't be able to race the class that I am trying to get better at for the real races. That's absolute BS.

I am getting ready for a few big carpet races and had to sell almost all of my cars to fund these races. The current carpet car that I have is borrowed and he told me that under no circumstances am I to run it on asphalt because it is a one-off chassis. I have gone to Josh's the last 2 saturdays just because Reilly has gone and I hitched a ride. I can barely afford gas in my car to go back and forth to work. At $3 a gallon and 100 miles a day, life sucks.

Please don't name drop and think that people are playing favorites. The carpet season is upon us, and when you roll out the carpet, I will probably be there practicing .

Thanks for everything,

Tim


And this is why I stay off the boards - no name dropping nor bad feelings toward anyone - people (generic) who come tuesdays say they going here or there and sometimes say so and so is going - all told to me . from now on don't talk to me with info if it going to be used against me.

Sunday we were closed - I was on vacation - the last (4) weeks on sunday it has been me only from 1pm to 6pm - and so when it came time to take some R&R - no sense in paying someone to watch dust settle. We are open this sunday. People have to remember this is a one man show - I cannot please everyone everytime and latley no-one any of the time. This is the last no "Region Race" topic I am commenting on for this thread

Holy Wow's

Hi Tim :wave: how's life ;)

Hi Tim :wave: how's life ;)

My life seems to be going better than some. I have been working 12 hour days and only getting paid for 8. It gets old pretty quick.

I don't know why people use selective listening, but it seems to be a common problem.

I said what I needed to say. I'm not the only one that feels the way I do. Oh well.

Keith, you have a PM.

Tim

My life seems to be going better than some. I have been working 12 hour days and only getting paid for 8. It gets old pretty quick.

I don't know why people use selective listening, but it seems to be a common problem.

I said what I needed to say. I'm not the only one that feels the way I do. Oh well.

Keith, you have a PM.

Tim

Hey guys - this is not a personal conversation thread - this is for the Carpet Championship Race only - make another thread and talk about this - please

Halo Hobbies will be hosting IIC Warm-Up Event on August 25th-28th - $20.00 for 4 days of practice and racing.

Due to the fact that RC Screws knew about our IIC Warm-Up and decided to host a "Texas Hold'em" event on the same day as us (after I dropped fliers for the event off at Screw's track) we will be kind enough to return the favor.

SAME WEEKEND AS THE REGIONALS: Halo Hobbies Grand Prix $20.00 Entry, same schedule as the IIC event with complimentary pizza & pop for everyone in attendance (Sat evening).

Sorry Keith, you stiffed us on the money series and now this. Completely uncalled for.....

Mr. Cyrul,

After hearing what you wrote it makes me see you in a different light. :confused: We should be thankful that someone has opened up a track, if their are not tracks this could become a dead hobbie, and without RC where would you be - think about that for a moment. Seems that it is petty for you to put on a fluff race during a regional race just for spite. As I recall (races that actually meant something/or multiy state entreies) no conflicted with the schedule for nats or the great lakes race. I know I am not driving over 2 hours for a warmup race that I am not even attending. But If I due decide to race (in michigan where I live) on sunday - then I am glad to know there is somewhere I can go. And Screwz has been doing these racers since april - seems to me you should have checked with them before sceduleing your race - that is just my 2 cents.

Wow, if Larry see's this he'll probably take the dune buggies off the track.

But seriously guys remember this is all supposed to be fun, with toy cars. Very expensive toy cars I might add.

Wow, for a minute there I thought I was reading one of the old GR threads!
Sorry..... I just couldn't resist.

Mr. Cyrul,

After hearing what you wrote it makes me see you in a different light. :confused: We should be thankful that someone has opened up a track, if their are not tracks this could become a dead hobbie, and without RC where would you be - think about that for a moment. Seems that it is petty for you to put on a fluff race during a regional race just for spite. As I recall (races that actually meant something/or multiy state entreies) no conflicted with the schedule for nats or the great lakes race. I know I am not driving over 2 hours for a warmup race that I am not even attending. But If I due decide to race (in michigan where I live) on sunday - then I am glad to know there is somewhere I can go. And Screwz has been doing these racers since april - seems to me you should have checked with them before sceduleing your race - that is just my 2 cents.

And if the track owners don't look out for each other and work with each other then there will be no tracks. Each place will end up with 10 racers and the track will close. The people and racers that have been around for a while (10+ years) have seen this happen in this area.

since they are both in the same REGION I would hope that racers would attend the sanactioned race to represent there REGION and sponsered drivers should be required to attend REGION races to boost the hobby not break it up JUST THINK ITS SAD THAT THIS CAN'T BE WORKED OUT for all to enjoy in the REGION (racers and potential new people who might show up to see the racers) just a thought!!!!

since they are both in the same REGION I would hope that racers would attend the sanactioned race to represent there REGION and sponsered drivers should be required to attend REGION races to boost the hobby not break it up JUST THINK ITS SAD THAT THIS CAN'T BE WORKED OUT for all to enjoy in the REGION (racers and potential new people who might show up to see the racers) just a thought!!!!

I for one love the idea of supporting Roar. But you also need to keep in mind that this Regional race is the same price as the Nationals have been lately. So it seams way over priced for what it is.

As instructed by roar 20% of all entry fees are put towards prizes (trophies/awards) Shirts and motors the most money, payment for race officals - advertising in a magazine (we are in extreme magazine) $800 a month - cost is high to even put a race on - I agree with you.

payment for race officals

What are you talking about? ROAR is a volunteer organization.

Hey guys - this is not a personal conversation thread - this is for the Carpet Championship Race only - make another thread and talk about this - please Keith you should relax just becuse we may drift off the topic doesn't demean this wonderful race you are holding, If you look at every thread nobody is completly on the sudject every post so just control your track and not the tread. :thumbsup:

Mr. Cyrul,

After hearing what you wrote it makes me see you in a different light. :confused: We should be thankful that someone has opened up a track, if their are not tracks this could become a dead hobbie, and without RC where would you be - think about that for a moment. Seems that it is petty for you to put on a fluff race during a regional race just for spite. As I recall (races that actually meant something/or multiy state entreies) no conflicted with the schedule for nats or the great lakes race. I know I am not driving over 2 hours for a warmup race that I am not even attending. But If I due decide to race (in michigan where I live) on sunday - then I am glad to know there is somewhere I can go. And Screwz has been doing these racers since april - seems to me you should have checked with them before sceduleing your race - that is just my 2 cents.


It's funny, I was going to open a track in the Livonia area as I was looking into buildings within 2 miles of where screws is now located. It was at that time that I found out that the Toledo track was probably going to close. It dissapointed me as I always enjoyed going to the track there to race so, I bought the track, remodeled EVERYTHING to make it one of the nicest tracks possible.

Now, if you remember back (oltimerracer)- My parents were a huge part of the old Rider's in Canton, before that Jonimos (over 18yrs ago) as well as Stage III. Now I own and opperate Halo Hobbies and CEFX. R/C has always been a huge part of my life but I've also more than put back my share with supporting tracks, helping host major events, now running a hobby shop and doing more than a fair share of helping and supporting racers at Halo and on-line so they can enjoy the hobby and get the most out of it.

As far as the Warm-Up race that we are holding - It's not a $65.00 entry, it's a $20.00 laid back race that should bring a decient group of racers together to hang out, practice and enjoy r/c rather than be nuts trying to win a major event title. Here's a question?? If I called it a Halo Hobbies GP rather than a IIC Warm-Up would you attend?? It's a title of a race because it's the next large event on the r/c calander and for the guys who are going it's a good chance to practice. For the people who aren't going, it's still a chance to come and race to get 4 days of track time (you don't have to come for all 4 days) for a cheap price. I don't really think it matters at all if you are attending the actual race. Supposedly races like this are to bring groups of racers together to support the local (or somewhat local) track.

As far as this whole "Michigan" issue everyone seems to have..lol.. I was born in Michigan, I've grown up in Michigan and I still live in Michigan. CEFX is located in Michigan. I remember driving to Grand Rapids every weekend to race (over 2hr drive). Screws and Halo are only 1 hour a part so it would seem that a little cooperation among schedules would benifit both tracks, but since my track is "in Ohio with Ohio racers" then I guess it really doesn't matter that we are holding a Halo Hobbies GP on the same weekend as the Regionals just as the Texas Hold'em and our IIC race are on the same weekend (see my point).

As far as checking with Screws - I was at Screws when I dropped off flyers and there was NO RACE scheduled for the same weekend as ours. Keith actually gave me a flyer for a Texas Hold'em race for that coming weekend (this was before the Great Lakes Challenge). Don't tell me that was scheduled in April....

Sorry for the attitude, but just as Keith I am trying to keep my track open and take care of business. After "my Ohio" racers got stiffed on the money series and now this scheduling conflict I think you could respect my frustration.

Xpressman - Amen.

funai - Due to the lack of ROAR structure, there is no need to attend a State or Regional event because you can directly enter into a National - It's been this way for years. As far as requiring "sponsored" drivers to attend.....lol.... I'm not even going there....

Nicely stated Josh!

Wow, for a minute there I thought I was reading one of the old GR threads!
Sorry..... I just couldn't resist.


Ain't that the truth- And people wonder why I don't race anymore...

How far is this track from the IN. border?

David

How far is this track from the IN. border?

DavidHOUR AND A HALF I think :rolleyes:

hey i was wondering if there is an age limit to this race because i am 15 and am thinking about coming to this race and compete in stock touring and stock 1/12th scale.

Max

Max,
I don't believe there's an age limit.

No age limit - come and race!

there going to be big name guys there, if there are i'll try my best

Max