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lowdoughracer
08-02-2005, 08:24 PM
hey guys,
i have a question for you. which charger do you think is better the duratrax ice charger or the lrp pulsar competiton charger 2? any input would be great.
~Jake Feskanin~

Matt Bayless
08-02-2005, 09:08 PM
Of those two chargers go with the lrp 2 . If you can offord it. Step up to the best charger out there. GFX

RPM
08-02-2005, 09:16 PM
Of those two chargers go with the lrp 2 . If you can offord it. Step up to the best charger out there. GFX

I have the LRP 2.

GFX is good but I have to say the Ice is very nice.
Don't let the price fool you and the temp prob is a must have with the ice
to get the full potential of charging your batteries.
I would definitely check into the ICE charger. :thumbsup:

lowdoughracer
08-02-2005, 10:10 PM
so what do you think of the lrp 2? which of the two do you think is better? thanks for the input.
~Jake Feskanin~

burbs
08-02-2005, 10:37 PM
in my opinion, they both will work, both have motor run features, but the ice has a few more options..

erock1331
08-02-2005, 10:51 PM
Jake
no matter what to keep your batts in prime condition you are gonna need at least a 30 amp discharger.

Like i told ya a month ago, save your money and check the swap and sell forums on here...you can pick up a solid T30 or T35 for about $125-$175 which has more capabilities than the ICE and the LRP2.

Don't do what I did. I bought 3 lower line Integy chargers before finally selling them all to buy a GFX.

lowdoughracer
08-02-2005, 11:02 PM
so eric. you still sellin your old charger? some people tell me to go with the ice and then there are some people that tell me to go with a turbo. it gets kinda confusing. by the way are you gonna be at the track in two weeks.
~Jake Feskanin~

Fl Flash
08-02-2005, 11:28 PM
I have both a GFX Turbo 35 and a LRP Comp 2. For some reason I cant explain the batts charged on the LRP seem to have more punch ( I run stock and some 19 turn ) even though i use the same settings on both chargers. Dont get me wrong the GFX is outstanding and I use it when I discharge ( at only 25 amps ) cycle and graph and also to charge batts when I run two classes. I,ve had both for a year now with no complaints :thumbsup:

erock1331
08-03-2005, 11:19 AM
Jake
Not sure if I will be there or not.
Only reason I say get a CE T30/35/GFX is because of the discharger. If you plan on getting good cells discharging at 10amps is not going to keep them prime.

I agree the LRP 2 and ICE would be solid chargers that do include motor run in and can run com lathes. But I still think every oval racer should be able to discharge at 30+ amps.

here is a T30 for sale on the swap and sell $100

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=118706

wiscentral52
08-03-2005, 12:51 PM
I Have 2 Pulsar 2's. It Charges Faster Then The Ice. I Love The Charger, The Best For The Money!!!

bsracing8
08-03-2005, 12:53 PM
if you can hang on and save more money and atleast get your self a turbo 30,35. That would be the way to go.

Brandon

RPM
08-03-2005, 05:13 PM
if you can hang on and save more money and atleast get your self a turbo 30,35. That would be the way to go.

Brandon

A year ago I would say that was the case buy the turbo 35 but with new technology out today the Lrp 2 was big at the Snowbirds and now with the release of the Ice charger has features that the others don't and is now the
charger to have.

The price is a plus too.

erock1331
08-03-2005, 05:29 PM
RPM,

Not trying to be smart but What feat does the Ice Charger have over a GFX?
Cause I am missing the boat I guess.

Discharge Rate - Ice - 10 amp & GFX is 35 amps
Motor Run in Amps - Ice 10 amp constant -- GFX 20 amps (heck most stockers today pull over 10 amps on break-in at 2v, no fan that I run)

Li-poly charging - ICE - Yes -- GFX - No
(but Jake wants this for oval racing, who runs Li-poly's in oval?)

Step Charging - ICE - Yes 4 steps -- GFX - No
(I don't know anyone that uses step charging in oval)

lowdoughracer
08-03-2005, 05:34 PM
eric,
i see what you guys are saying and it makes perfect sense to me. i guess now i jus gotta save up my money and buy one. whats a better charger the turbo 30 or the 35? thanks for all the help everyone.
~Jake Feskanin~

erock1331
08-03-2005, 08:10 PM
Jake
The Turbo 30 (tan case with 5 buttons) is the old old one CE made.
It discharges at 30 amps and has motor run in functions, etc.
It was replaced with the Turbo 30 Indy car edition (only difference it had 9 buttons instead of 5)
Then the Turbo 35BL came out discharges up to 35 amps (the display was backlit and case was white with a nascar on it)
The Turbo 35BL Stealth came out - same functions as above but had a black case.
The GFX is their top of the line and newest of the lineup. It has graphing functions, etc

see their site

http://www.competitionelectronics.com/rc%20car%20products.html

lowdoughracer
08-03-2005, 08:38 PM
eric,
once again you answered my question. lol. is there one or the other of the ce chargers that you prefer or are they all pretty much the same?
~Jake Feskanin~

bsracing8
08-03-2005, 10:52 PM
dont get me wrong the gfx is nice but i just dont like the dial i like to use the buttons but it is your choice.


Brandon

TnOvalRacer
08-03-2005, 11:23 PM
No DIALS......pure digitals........FUTABA CDR-5000 with Thermo Stand....awesome !!!!!!!!!!

check it out ::::

http://www.futabarc.com/batteries/futm4170.html :wave:

lowdoughracer
08-03-2005, 11:30 PM
only problem with that charger is it is so exspensive. and i dont got the money for it. doesnt it only discharge at 10 amps also.
~Jake Feskanin~

Racin Steve
08-03-2005, 11:55 PM
only problem with that charger is it is so exspensive. and i dont got the money for it. doesnt it only discharge at 10 amps also.
~Jake Feskanin~

10 amps ... cough cough ... can you say 40amps!!!

Steve.
tqcells.com

lowdoughracer
08-04-2005, 09:47 AM
wow! i could swear that charger discharged at 10 amps. maybe i read something wrong but still, isnt it more exspensive than the turbo 35 gfx?
~Jake Feskanin~

pepe
08-04-2005, 12:32 PM
The Futaba is sweet,yes it's 40 amps,not 10.If you can't afford a NEW CE charger I would look around for a used one,there's all over the S&S area's,used is just as good as new when it comes to CE,you just can't go wrong with them.If you have to have new go with a pitbull, it does nicely at a good price.

lowdoughracer
08-04-2005, 03:03 PM
Pepe,
I've seen the pitbull before but havent heard how it has worked. Do you know what amps it discharges at?
~Jake Feskanin~

erock1331
08-04-2005, 03:06 PM
Pepe,
I've seen the pitbull before but havent heard how it has worked. Do you know what amps it discharges at?
~Jake Feskanin~

Jake
Pitbulls dont have discharge capabilities nor motor run in features. It's simply charges and that's it.

http://www.competitionelectronics.com/Pit%20bull%20x3.html

lowdoughracer
08-04-2005, 03:47 PM
eric,
I take it since the pitbull doesnt dscharge you wouldnt suggest that i buy it?
~Jake Feskanin~

erock1331
08-04-2005, 03:59 PM
Jake,
It's your cash bud, but what do you plan to discharge with? Most of these guys telling you to get LRP's and ICE charges I would be willing to bet have a T30 or T35 to take down their packs. And use the Ice, LRP or Pitbull to charge only or maybe run in motors or use them as a 2nd or backup charger.

For stock racing these days you have to take the cells down to 3.6 volts with a good discharger and then to 0 volts with a tray such as the Integy Zero 30 so you can short them.

No sense wasting $200 on 4 race packs if you don't plan to maintain them well afterwards. That is all I am saying.

RPM
08-04-2005, 06:18 PM
RPM,

Not trying to be smart but What feat does the Ice Charger have over a GFX?
Cause I am missing the boat I guess.

Discharge Rate - Ice - 10 amp & GFX is 35 amps
Motor Run in Amps - Ice 10 amp constant -- GFX 20 amps (heck most stockers today pull over 10 amps on break-in at 2v, no fan that I run)

Li-poly charging - ICE - Yes -- GFX - No
(but Jake wants this for oval racing, who runs Li-poly's in oval?)

Step Charging - ICE - Yes 4 steps -- GFX - No
(I don't know anyone that uses step charging in oval)

Your right except for two things :

1) a real thermal probe - ICE
2) Also, there is a new feature that I stubbled on was the Flex 3 charging.

Which I'm not a flex charging person especially with Nimh GP cells but
for some reason it brings back the cells to life.
The down side is that it can only be done once to the pack.

Don't ask me why but it seems to stabilize the core in the cells and it works!!

Its a geat feature to have in your racing arsenal. :dude:

RPM
08-04-2005, 06:22 PM
10 amps ... cough cough ... can you say 40amps!!!

Steve.
tqcells.com


I found the Integy 30 amp discharger tray to be far better due to the
thirty amp discharge to EACH cell individual and not parallel in a pack.

Very easy to use and the price is right!!

lowdoughracer
08-04-2005, 09:56 PM
eric,
do you know if any of the CE chargers have a temp probe? also do you know if classic hobbies or aero tech carry parts for the associated l4? also does a trinity realtime 2 discharger work to bring the cells down to 0 volts?
~Jake Feskanin~

erock1331
08-05-2005, 10:45 AM
jake
see my response on this thread
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?p=1166557#post1166557

RPM
08-05-2005, 08:20 PM
jake
see my response on this thread
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?p=1166557#post1166557

A simple ''I don't know'' would have been easyer to type in. :)

erock1331
08-08-2005, 10:09 AM
A simple ''I don't know'' would have been easyer to type in. :)

Dude,
Get a clue, I copied and pasted his question and responded in the other thread.
Trying to keep all the newbie questions in one area.

If i don't know something I will be the first person to admit it. Anybody who knows me, knows that.

By the way who are you??

Eric Hutkay
RIP Motorsports/TQ Cells/PRS Gears/ProtoForm/Finishline Racing