As This Site Is Sponsored By Wild, Let Us Hear Some News.

Is The Event Being Postponed? Canceled?
Due To Lack Of Ticket Sales (approx 42 Tickets Sold)

The Members Of Club Must Have Bought Those Tickets

Staff Members Grumbling Of It Being Post Poned , Canceled, Place Change

No Reply Here Can Only Mean One Thing To Me , News Not Good

So Bigger Then Ever Let Us Hear Some News Now

Da Man

The News Must Be Bad Enough, That They Don't Want To Comment About It

I Know This Must Have Been Read, As A Moderator Is Posting All The Good About Wild, But What Is Going On Now Is It Canceled? Post Poned? Change Of Place Where Its Being Held?

Its Quiet Here Like At The Wild?

This Is A Forum For Discussion So Lets Hear The News, Forget The Bigger Than Ever. Let Us Hear The True Facts, Or Are You Hiding Them From Us.

I Come Here All I Keep Seeing Is All The New Fresh Exciting Things About The Wild, Same Things I Heard Prior To Last Years Event And Then Once There All Kinds Of Changes, Cars Promised And Held Back On Us Ticket Holders, Event Guests That Were A No Show, Due To Numerous Reasons. Poor Attendence And Approx 7 Rooms Open For Trading.
Its To Bad Because Once This Was A Event To Be Proud Of, But Now It Seems Its Time Is At Its End.

Your Silence Here Can Not Mean Good News To Those Interested In Wild.

Your Turn!

Come On Tommy !

Give Us All This Exciting News

Silience Can Not Mean Good Things.

Are The Same Folks Not Attending Also Not Reading This Forum's Post?

Should We Blow Taps!

Unlike so many other people involved in this hobby who choose to deal in rumor, innuendo, and most importantly, false promises, the promoters of Wild Weekend, myself included, only release information when it is factual and correct and definite. So, loud mouth, here are the facts... No, we have NOT canceled Wild Weekend. But unfortunately, due to disappointing ticket sales (which incidentally, is no reflection on us or our event... only the lack of judgment of the collecting population who can't recognize a quality event for what it is) we have moved the event to a smaller venue. We don't feel it is fair to those who are attending to arrive at a hotel expecting a large scale event, only to be disappointed by the turnout. All the new information will be posted on the web site as soon as possible. We at Wild Weekend apologize for any inconvenience these changes may cause those attending. And for the record, daman, I want to read your comments after you attend the "other" event at the end of July. (Yes, your obvious animosity — not to mention lack of grammatical skills — tell me that you are in that camp). I know that their ticket sales are horrible also... only the promoters of that show don't have the guts to tell their attendees what is (or isn't ) happening. And finally, for the record, I will find out who you are and make sure that you are never welcome at any of our future events. Your type is what continues to give this hobby a black eye.

I find it appauling that a "moderator" would use the tone that you did with someone for asking some simple questions.....dont be so scared to answer them....I also find it funny that you can come on here and say that people like him are the reason the hobby has a black eye, and yet he was asking some good questions...what do you mean you will be releasing info as soon as possible? The event is only a few weeks away.....When is possible? When its good for you and your "club" or when its good for people to decide they dont wana bother goin anymore?....and as for the "other" event....theres already more tix sold than this event so i dont know where you get off tellin people to come back and talk after that one...the "other" event will be greater in so may ways for many reasons, if not only because all the people like you and your "club" wont be there.....so go ahead, have some pizza and you and the other 4 people goin to this event have a great time!! I know this post will be either deleted or edited in a few mins...so Screw your lousy attitude and nice post DAMAN.... :wave:

""I know that their ticket sales are horrible also... only the promoters of that show don't have the guts to tell their attendees what is (or isn't ) happening. And finally, for the record, I will find out who you are and make sure that you are never welcome at any of our future events. Your type is what continues to give this hobby a black eye.""

Tommy What do u want to know were not hidding anything u can come to any of our club meetings and Al will tell you anything you want to know! Oh thats right your'e with that other group your not allowed!. I will be the 1st to admit that ALL shows all over the country are off! so why throw rocks huh?? Everythin WE promisised is happening in at the wicked ! what we posted is happening not like your so called wicked 4 promised whitelighting and get regular cars and then you hand out that stupid letter at the Auburn toy show thats supose to make things better?
I think you should go back to you toys show and sell you diecast stuff tommy and don't worry about getting your post deleated from HWC.com too !

How dare them! How dare you ! Promote a Jada Event on a corp Mattel site DUH!!!!!!

I have kept quiet long enough!
Just my 2 cents sorry if I upset anyone
Except you tommy & Randy too!

peace

Oh one more thing sorry!

75 bucks for a family!
are you nuts!
man at the wicked they HAVE events for the kids!
what do u guys have video game in the back of the pizza shop!
and I'm sorry but My buddies kids had a great time last year
Wicked weekend is much more A FAMILY EVENT!!!!!!!

sorry just 2 more cents!

Please refrain from posting insults directed at fellow board members. If you see something posted you think is inappropriate, please notify the Moderators. If you continue to post in the manor you have recently, you will be banned from participating in future discussions.

HOW COME A MOD CAN INSULT ME THEN? "So, loud mouth, here are the facts"
IT IS HARD TO NOTIFY A MODERATOR WHEN THEY ARE DOING THE INSULTING

Ok, and were off....to begin with, you get on me, saying that I am bashing, picking, poking, and giving the community a 'black eye'. Where as You yourself, start off, calling me LOUD MOUTH, and then the inability of the collector base, to choose the 'right' event, basically calling anybody that is not going to YOUR event an idiot! Too stupid! to make the right decision!- Now - correct me if I'm wrong??-- a moderators duty is to do what is best for the board that they are a moderator on. Not, for there own personal gain or promotion of their own personal invested events. Not once, on any, of these threads on this board, have I seen Matchbox USA, The Texas Regionals, The Gathering, that 'OTHER' event-if I say it, you will edit it, so therefore I will not mention it, and Irvine. You do not know the facts, you are speculating the attendance levels. As another follow up post to your earlier rant stated
if you come to our club meet, ask anything you want--you will be given answers to everything. We have Ira Gilford, who by the way, you promised for last year, and then did not tell anyone he did not come,but-Was at the 'other' event. We have Ronald McDonald charities, which is making the same type, production, quality vehicles that they have always done in the past. We have many other surprises, just like last
year, that we did not announce. Last year our attendance was thru the roof, this year to date, it is probably 20% off, but this week alone I called and asked, we sold 23 tickets.Along with last years attendees, and many first timers who looked forward to it this year, along with a whole new wave of japanese collectors-dealers who have purchased their tickets and rooms, that should say something about a 'so called' misrepresented and liars event.

" I know that their ticket sales are horrible also... only the promoters of that show don't have the guts to tell their attendees what is (or isn't ) happening." "Unlike so many other people involved in this hobby who choose to deal in rumor, innuendo, and most importantly, false promises, the promoters of Wild Weekend, myself included, only release information when it is factual and correct and definite."

Here you are NOT stating the fact , but in fact you are creating rumors yourself the other event has only sold approx 44 tickets to members and well over 300 tickets sold.
Where in fact Wild has sold approx 42 tickets and my guess is 20-30 are club members tickets.

So Tommy there you have it
as you can see i have been a member here since 2002, and nearly 200 posts, i see you becoming a new member in march 2005 and only to benefit WILD. Not to add anything but self promotion.
DA MAN

I don't Normally get into this type of discussion but thought a somewhat outsiders opinion may help.

1. I have gone to the wild weekend 2, wild weekend 3 and wild weekend 4.

2. I live in CT but don't belong or associate with either one of the clubs.

3. wild weekend 2 and 3 were Awesome! (before the club split) Wild Weekend 4 was a big time joke and waste of time! The cars were overpriced for JL's and I thought it was of very Poor taste to say what cars would be available only to hold back the zinger camaro WL's for the staff after saying it would be one of the cars avail.

4. Room to Room trading/selling I didn't see much of anything maybe 2 rooms on each of the floors. What a dissapointment!

5. I got another bad taste in my mouth at the auction when the bidding didn't reach what Randy thought it would he wouldn't let it sell and then he acted like a baby and left! It was supposed to be fun and for the kids and he goes off pouting like one.

I can't say that the Wicked weekend is a great event but I for one am planning on going and haven't bought my ticket yet so there will be atleast 1 more sold. I sure heard alot better news from the Wicked last year than I did the wild. Ether way good luck with the Wild but I don't think that it will ever be what it could have been if the clubs hadn't split.

As I am not a member of ether club what was the reason for the split??? May I venture to guess it was from the same attitude I saw at the "charity" auction at wild weekend 4?

viper man

The reason for the split?

Well we elected a new Prez and were kicked out of the pizza shop. Then HE told us if we want to stay we can Join His new club! That is were the split happen. The club has done more in 2 years with a new prez than when we were there with him club cars/ member dinner and racing every meeting.
We as a club tried to mend relations we asked him last year if he wanted to come to our event and co-promote and invited him to a meeting. NO RESPONCE!!!
All i can say is the club has grown and got a new out look and we are more a family club now then before I hope if you get a chance come down and check us out. you can check out www.snehw.com for wicked updates too.

I hope you get your ticket to the Wicked its going to be a fun time.

Peace

Hi David
im Glad to see you are coming to wicked, im sure we will hook up again like we did at last years auction ( hint hint LOL) think spiderman wl viper LOL
i will try to answer your questions as best as i can.

"5. I got another bad taste in my mouth at the auction when the bidding didn't reach what Randy thought it would he wouldn't let it sell and then he acted like a baby and left! It was supposed to be fun and for the kids and he goes off pouting like one."

Well way i was told by a member of Ct hotwheelers (randys club) and a staff volunteer at the wild, randy was commited to a dollar amount to go to charity.
So what that means and i will only use a example here because although i believe im right on this, i could be wrong. I never said im always right LOL
Commited dollars lets say $10,000 and bottom line was that this amount had to be given to the charity, so when cars (the shadow boxes with wls in them) didn't reach what he thought were the amount they should sell for ,he figured what the heck i might as well keep them myself since i am not going to get the dollars wanted for them and be out the cost of the cars and also the dollars also. This way he could and did sell them after the auction to one of the bidders at a price he deemed they should sell for.
So he didnt want to take dollars out of his pocket for charity and also be at a lost for the cars. If he had previously let the bidders know of reserves, we may not have been happy about it but we would have at least known about it. He got upset and ran out leaving our mod here tommy to take over.

"As I am not a member of ether club what was the reason for the split??? May I venture to guess it was from the same attitude I saw at the "charity" auction at wild weekend 4?"

David
on the club splitting thing

Ok on this matter a few things happened to break up the club, yearly we as a club voted what to do with overage of dollars club collected by getting dues and doing raffles and such. It was voted on by the club to purchase toys for a local hospital and that is what the club did Bob the treasurer and i believe dremma did exactly that , it was something i was proud of that the club did i commend them for that. But here is where it went downhill,
randy had made a purchase of large scale ferrrari's for some ferrari club and needed these like at the last minute ( something he always did you could never count on getting things done on time) lots of promises never kept.
He got this overnighted at some crazy freight bill like shipping was (and truly i am only guessing here, so yell at me for the rumor part here) like 650$ frieght.
Then for reasons even im not positive on he got stuck with all these cars and didnt know what to do with them. So he decides on his own to give them up to the charity and then come to the next months meeting asking for the money to pay for them. Well the club had already spent the money for toys and we had none. So we were all shocked But truly not surprised by what he did, as he did it once before with a donation of 500 $ and after he gave it to charity he had club vote on it LOL.
So the club said No on paying him for his loss, he figured this was his way out of losing lots of $$.
The next month comes and it is that time of year for club elections and guess what he was voted out as club President.
So now the next month comes i believe feb. and he asks to says something to the club, and here is what he says.
i am starting (KEY WORD HERE IS "MY" ) MY CLUB CT HOTWHEELERS.
Not that he is starting a club but MY club, see it is all about him. The next question is where is SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND OF HOTWHEELERS going to meet and he says not here anymore. He was Hot for being thrown out of office and making a bad business decision and the club was going to the ones to suffer for it.
That was that the club which started backin the end of 95 (i am a founding member) had to go elsewhere to hold its meeting.
Today the club consists of 144 outstanding members and ct hotwheelers approx 15 or so.

SO DAVID I ANSWERED AS BEST AS I COULD, TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH TO YOU. TOMMY YOU CAN RESPOND ANYWAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO.

Thanks to both of you for your responses. I think you are right in saying that if he had let us know what the reserve was that it would not have seemed as bad. Why start an auction so low when the reserve is so high? It was really strange how he left every one including staff was saying were did Randy go?? I really hate that the event had to be split. It seems to me an outsider that Randy let the convention become too much of a money maker and not a hobby. I understand bills have to be paid but why let so many cars at an event go unsold I am sure his cost wasn't anywhere near what he was selling them for. On an upnote I really think Randys wife is nice she talked to me alot however Randy didn't give the average joe the time of day. Maybe it's true it's all about Me!

"Yes, your obvious animosity — not to mention lack of grammatical skills — tell me that you are in that camp"

Nice work there Tom. So if your in the SNEHW we ALL have bad
grammatical skill
and belong in that (camp)
A lot of (your) RI Club is a part of SNEHW. & wouldn't like your tone here.
I know I don't

I just want people to know that MOST of the RI Club Support
SNEHW & the WICKED WEEKEND.

http://rihotwheels.freeservers.com/images/ri_hot_wheels_logo.gif

I am so glad I collect Johnny Lightning and Matchboxes. The HW crowd is wacked. You guys sound like your going to start a fight if you see each other.


IT IS A HOBBY WHERE YOU COLLECT LITTLE CARS FOR ENJOYMENT.

I think I'd be scared to take my little boy to either event. Too much hostility going on.

- Now - correct me if I'm wrong??-- a moderators duty is to do what is best for the board that they are a moderator on. Not, for there own personal gain or promotion of their own personal invested events. Not once, on any, of these threads on this board, have I seen Matchbox USA, The Texas Regionals, The Gathering, that 'OTHER' event-if I say it, you will edit it, so therefore I will not mention it, and Irvine. So Tommy there you have it

as you can see i have been a member here since 2002, and nearly 200 posts, i see you becoming a new member in march 2005 and only to benefit WILD. Not to add anything but self promotion.
DA MAN

Not to take any sides, but he is the Sponsor of this board, not just the moderator and, as such, he does pay a monthly fee to keep this board up and running, so he does have the right to self promotion and to keep competition off this board.

Please, continue with your discussion

Rob

I think I will stick with Muscle Machines and DUB cars you guys scare me. No matter how you look at it they are little toy cars!

I think I will stick with Muscle Machines and DUB cars you guys scare me. No matter how you look at it they are little toy cars!



:lol:

Interesting Posts so far Just for the record Last years Wild weekend was a JL event and this years wild weekend is a Muscle Machines event (or atleast the main cars are MM's)

Like I said before I don't belong to either camp as I only collect vipers I don't see the need but I do like to attend one convention a year and it is going to be the Wicked this year I will give a fair report of it after the event if anyone is interested.

I think I'd be scared to take my little boy to either event. Too much hostility going on.

no need to be scared to bring your boy to the wicked.
brought my daughter last year and all the kids had a blast.
going to bring both my kids this year.
at the wicked there will be a couple events just for the kids.
Christmas in july and a kids auction with play money.
there maybe a little hostility on these boards but it does not come out at the event. we at the wicked want the whole Family to have a safe and fun time.

Rob...????

"Not to take any sides, but he is the Sponsor of this board, not just the moderator and, as such, he does pay a monthly fee to keep this board up and running, so he does have the right to self promotion and to keep competition off this board."

Than why not call the board "Sixty3feulie's Board"??? or "Wild Weekend 5 Board"??? As a new member here, I thought that a MM board was just that and NOT a Promotions Site??? Sorry, But if this is the case I must disagree with you.... All aspects and features of MM should be allowed to be posted here.. Just me 2 cents.

On a lighter note... Rob,,, I use to live 4 houses down from you.... W/L Vipers...LOL

Cya mags.

i'd just like to respond to the quote about the rhode island club supporting snehw. that is true but it is also true that the ri club supports the hobby. our members like theres goes to many of the club events on both sides and for us as an outside club that's where the concern comes in. It is very difficult for people to support two events in the same month. It can become costly, which is the only point i've ever tried to make to both parties in bringing the weekends together as one. I realize that will never happen, and that is sad for all collectors. It's to bad the past can't go away. Hopefully we can all get beyond this and get back to having a good time. I have spoken out on this subject many times and i'm very aware my efforts have fallen on deaf ears. All i can ask for as an adult and a lover of these little cars lets ALL stop the name calling get beyond this situation. I'd like to wish SNEHW and Wild weekend all the luck in the world. Please don't tarnish a great hobby it makes us all look bad.

Rob...????

"Not to take any sides, but he is the Sponsor of this board, not just the moderator and, as such, he does pay a monthly fee to keep this board up and running, so he does have the right to self promotion and to keep competition off this board."

Than why not call the board "Sixty3feulie's Board"??? or "Wild Weekend 5 Board"??? As a new member here, I thought that a MM board was just that and NOT a Promotions Site??? Sorry, But if this is the case I must disagree with you.... All aspects and features of MM should be allowed to be posted here.. Just me 2 cents.

On a lighter note... Rob,,, I use to live 4 houses down from you.... W/L Vipers...LOL



Cya mags.


For the same reason you won't see any Verizon phone ads at Nextel Field, they aren't paying the bills. It is a MM board and, as with all the boards, HW , JL and Jada included, if the sponsor limits input too much, people will just go elsewhere and the board will die. But allowing input does not mean that the sponsor doesn't have the right to limit competition.

Each of us runs our board in his own manner and you either visit or stay away based upon your own opinion of the board. Too loose and its fights and advertising all the time, too tight and people will just leave.


You're not missing anything.. no excitement lately, just dead grass. How's the Viper collection coming?

Rob,,,,

"For the same reason you won't see any Verizon phone ads at Nextel Field, they aren't paying the bills."

Than can you tell me why a Verizon sponsered concert is allowed in the Nextel field???? Bad example.... Its all about money.... and they all pay the bills.....

Now, that being said.... I was just saying that the board should be labeled accordingly... I don't think it is fair to limit the text (posts) of the board based on personnal gains..... thus,,, ending in a one sided opinion... and BAD NEWS for all collectors...

Do you,,, as the HW board sponser only promote your one and only event???? or, do you allow all events to be mentioned...??? Thus, helping all collectors and the hobby??

In closing... Not trying to P.O. anybody. just wanted to know why and howcome....

Thanks for asking... I have about 650 vipers total, in 1/55 thru 1/87 scale and thank you Rob for helping out.... :thumbsup:

mags.

Well, there are so many areas of debate in these posts that I really don't know where to begin... but it does seem to prove my point about rumors and misunderstandings being the status quo in this hobby. First off, I will not reply to anything concerning Randy personally and the club split, as I have no first-hand knowledge of what did or did not happen to cause the rift... I will only reply to comments about which I have personal knowledge and/or involvement.

To "that guy": I am not the moderator of the Muscle Machines forum. I have no control over its content and cannot edit or delete posts (nor would I). I, like you, am free to express my opinions, and in reply to yours regarding withholding info, as I said previously, we changed our venue when it became apparent that people attending the event would be disappointed if we weren't truthful about our ticket sales. Wild was honest about our slow sales when the time was appropriate, as there is a cut-off date when after which it is highly unlikely that a large amount of "last-minute" tickets will be sold. Wicked has been saying that they have sold 300 tickets. The real disappointment is going to be evident in the faces of the 50 or so Wicked attendees as they search in vain for the other 250 (non-existent) attendees. But please don't take my word for it; call the hotel for yourself and see how many rooms have been booked to date. And one last thing... I didn't start all the negativity... da man did with his taunting. I don't like to promote negativism toward any event, because I know how hard the job of promoting an event is; and how disappointing it is when you know that you have great event planned that few people are interested in attending. Yes, I did just recently join this forum, and yes, it was primarily to promote my event. But I thought that by telling people about a quality event, it would be of benefit to the collectors who choose to attend, and ultimately the hobby itself. Instead, da man, you saw this forum as an opportunity to rekindle personal vendettas, and sling mud upon anyone who is currently working with Wild Weekend. That, in itself, tells me that Wicked is not living up to expectations, or else you wouldn't have the need to try to tear us down.

To Mohawk: Yes, Al will tell you anything you want to know NOW, as he probably realizes that he won't come close to his projected ticket sales. He recently admitted (in mid-June) to having sold only 44 tickets. But prior, he wouldn't say how ticket sales were progressing (at least not to anyone outside his club). I can understand this silence as being a part of the promoting process; negativisms such as poor ticket sales only breed more negativity; (too bad da man didn't understand this prior to his comments on 6/23, but hopefully, he gets it now...) As for the Family Ticket price, you obviously don't understand the concept. It is intended to HELP a family with a lot of kids attend for less money. Only $75.00 for an UNLIMITED number of attendees... not $50.00 x "X" number of individual tickets! (BTW, last year we offered kids under 12— who wanted the accompanying convention car— a half-price fee.) Wild Weekend is, and always will be, a family-oriented event. As for HWC.com, yes they pulled my posts. And as a paid member of that club, I have a right to use that forum, same as anyone else. Censorship isn't appropriate in a "public forum" situation, and since I was within the guidelines set, the posts should have remained. The only "DUH" in this instance is that Jada does not produce Muscle Machines! And for the millionth time, regarding last year's event, the Zinger WLs were NEVER produced as an event car. They were originally produced to be the gift car for the Wild staff. Think about it... only 40 were produced... why would anyone make such a small amount of cars otherwise? And those that weren't earmarked for the staff went to the charity auction, into the vending machine, etc., and so were available to attendees who were either lucky enough to win one, or who bid in the charity auction. I see that there is apparent dissatisfaction with that auction as posted here, but as I said before, I am only going to reply to things that I have first-hand knowledge about, and I don't know why auction items were pulled.

To Fast-SRX-700: I'm sorry if my initial comments appeared applicable to RI Club members also: I re-read it and saw where you could take offense. It was not directed at any RI members, though because of the club's cross-support, I see where it could be taken that way. I apologize to everyone who isn't directly involved in the ongoing difference-of-opinions on this board.

Finally, to all those others who happen to read this forum and have witnessed the bad blood between hobbyists who suppposedly share a common interest, I apologize for whatever part I may have inadvertantly played. The Wild Weekend sponsorship of the Muscle Machines forum will expire at the end of June, and hopefully with it, all of the animosity that has been exhibited herein. I want to thank Hobby Talk for the use of their forum, and for their assistance in helping us to promote Wild Weekend.

call the hotel and find how many rooms they have booked?
man you are sinking low to do that! were not at 300 rooms sure but alot of our people are driving in to our event for a day! TOMMY!
and the zinners were prommised to dinner attendies not the staff but hay your dogging the questions that most people want to know?
How do i get my money back!

Sixty3feulie,,,

"But please don't take my word for it; call the hotel for yourself and see how many rooms have been booked to date."

As an outsider,,, I live in IL... I have called and made res, for the 3 nights at the wicked event....and as a result of calling late, (3 days ago today) I have to pay the regular rate for the last night as all rooms reserved for the event were booked for that night.... I have no idea how many rooms were available or reserved... just telling what the lady told me on the phone... soo,, either I am getting the BIG shaft on the room rate for the last night or all allocated rooms were taken... just filling in the blanks here...

this is my first time out to an east coast conv. and hope to meet alot of great and friendly people.... CYA all there.... mags...

and BTW, we are having our first Diecast Viper Club meeting at the event and we will be trying to get things set up for the club.... :dude:

Tommy,
I don't want to get into the mudslinging, and I won't I just want to correct you you on 1 item, as I did not see you at the June SNEHW meeting. We never stated the amount of tickets sold. Just the fact that we only had 44 MEMBERS purchase tickets. In fact if you were at the meeting you would have heard us say the outside ticket sales are going well, we are just disappointed that our members are waiting until last minute to purchase tickets. One other thing, You can not measure ticket sales by hotel rooms. Many local people come into the show day to day and do not rent rooms. People also tend to have 2 or 3 friends split a room. I know I do.
Jeff
timelestoy@aol

For Magviper:
"...I have to pay the regular rate for the last night as all rooms reserved for the event were booked for that night.... I have no idea how many rooms were available or reserved..."

There's the key to that sentence. Another attendee called the hotel and had a similar experience... however, the girl at the desk said that only 34 rooms were "blocked" (i.e., made available at convention rates) Does this mean that only 34 convention-goers have reserved a room to date, or that only 34 rooms in total were put aside for the convention? If the former, then the event has a little less than a month to meet its projections... if the latter, then it seems like an unusually low number of rooms to reserve, if you are expecting 300+ attendees. Now, lets do the math... 300 attendees... 34 rooms = 8.8 people per room. Guess you guys are gonna get real cozy!

For Jeff,
The true number of ticket sales will only be known by one person, until the event actually happens, when the truth will be what is. I hope for the sake of everyone attending that the actual number of ticket sales comes close to the "reported" numbers. I wish you luck.

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For Jeff,
The true number of ticket sales will only be known by one person, until the event actually happens, when the truth will be what is. I hope for the sake of everyone attending that the actual number of ticket sales comes close to the "reported" numbers. I wish you luck.[/QUOTE]


Tommy, Your are right, I don't know the # of tickets sold, and I never said I did.
I am simply correcting your statement about what was said at the last meeting because I was there, and you weren't. And you have said so many times you don't deal in rumors.

Jeff
timelestoy@aol.com

:wave:

Thanks for the update Feulie......

I will ask about that when I get there... But hell, we are only talking 20 bucks and I spend more than that on a viper if I need and want it bad enough....

anyway,,, I guess I will see how it fairs and how many people attend.... I WILL let everyone know how this pans out.. But,, my guess is at the very least, a great time will be had by all.... mags.

Rob,,,,



Do you,,, as the HW board sponser only promote your one and only event???? or, do you allow all events to be mentioned...??? Thus, helping all collectors and the hobby??



mags.

Actually, the one event I am closely tied into and one of the major sponsors of "LightningFest" is not even promoted on my own board. Its JL related and there is a seperate board for that. If you look at the HW board you know that all the get togethers are allowed to be promoted on it, we do not discriminate.. well, not too much, we had a couple requirements for one of them, but, no, we allow all things that may be helpful to the readers to be posted, short of actual advertising by our competition. Not going to allow that unless they kick in some coin to help pay the fees. :cool:

Thanks Rob,,, Point Made,,, Thus,, Point Taken...... :cool:

:tongue: :tongue: :tongue:

are we having fun yet?

I'd like to wish SNEHW and Wild weekend all the luck in the world

That is worded like they are the same, Jim

Make no mistake. SNEHW is the WICKED WEEKEND

And Wild is the other.

FACTS ONLY HERE

BTW, How about that good word on the Wicked thread now.
It's located under HW's

very interesting, :thumbsup:

>>>>>... I will only reply to comments about which I have personal knowledge and/or involvement. <<<<<<<<
ALWAYS REMEMBER TOMMY SAID THAT!
>>>>>>
and in reply to yours regarding withholding info, as I said previously, we changed our venue when it became apparent that people attending the event would be disappointed if we weren't truthful about our ticket sales. Wild was honest about our slow sales when the time was appropriate,<<<<<<<<<
HONEST NOTHING, IT TOOK ME TO CONTINUE TO POST ASKING QUESTIONS FOR YOU TO POST ANYTHING AND THAT WAS JUST MORE LIES AND NAME CALLING.
>>>>>>>> I didn't start all the negativity... da man did with his taunting. I don't like to promote negativism toward any event<<<<<<<<<
SEEMS TO ME THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE PROMOTED
>>>>>>>>>>Instead, da man, you saw this forum as an opportunity to rekindle personal vendettas, and sling mud upon anyone who is currently working with Wild Weekend.<<<<<<<<<<<<<
WHERE DID I DO THAT TOMMY, I CAME HERE ASKING QUESTIONS AND ONLY ANSWERED QUESTIONS POSTED BY VIPERMAN. I HAVE BEEN HERE FROM THE BEGINING AND HAVE BEEN WITNESS TO ALL, UNLIKE YOU.
>>>>>>>>too bad da man didn't understand this prior to his comments on 6/23, but hopefully, he gets it now...) <<<<<<<<<<<
I UNDERSTOOD AND POSTED HOW MANY TICKETS WE SOLD TO MEMBERS BUT ONCE AGAIN THE ONE WHO DOESN'T LIKE TO RUMOR IS THE ONE WHO IS. YOU WERE NOT THERE SO AS I AGAIN SAY LOOK AT THE TOP LINE (YOU ONLY REPORT PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE) YOU HAVE NONE!
>>>>>>>>the Zinger WLs were NEVER produced as an event car. They were originally produced to be the gift car for the Wild staff. Think about it... only 40 were produced... why would anyone make such a small amount of cars otherwise? And those that weren't earmarked for the staff went to the charity auction, into the vending machine, etc., and so were available to attendees who were either lucky enough to win one, or who bid in the charity auction.<<<<<<<<<<<<<
YEAH TOMMY WHY WOULD THEY ONLY MAKE (40) PINK VW BUG WLS FOR THE LADIES EVENT? FUNNY HOW THAT IS THE SAME NUMBER OF WL ZINGER CAMAROS. SO WHY WHY WHY WHY DID THEY TOMMY. THE PRE-WILD PIZZA RESTURANT EVENT WAS PROMOTED AS THOSE ATTENDING TO GET WL ZINGER, THE WHOLE WILD EVENT IN THE WEB SITE HAD A CONTACT PERSON MARGARET AND THRU MY CONTACT WITH HER ON A COUPLE OCCASIONS I WAS ENTICED TO ATTEND THE PIZZA THING TO GET THE ZINGER. THERE WAS NO OTHER REASON TO GO BUT TO GET THE 5TH WL AVAILABLE. "NO" ONE WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO WIN ONE, YES I SAID "NO ONE".
YOU SOLD (2) IN BP'S AT AUCTION 1 FOR 265$ AND THE OTHER FOR 295$. THE ONLY OTHER WAY WAS TO BUY IT EITHER LOOSE OR PACKAGED IN THE SHADOW BOXES, WHICH AS YOU WITNESSED AS RANDY POUTED OUT OF THE ROOM LEAVING YOU TO TAKE OVER THOSE DIDNT REACH WHAT HE FELT WAS A APPRIATE AMOUNT TO COVER COSTS AND SUCH.
THAT LINE IS REALLY FUNNY WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT HOW YOU SAY WHY WOULD THEY ONLY DO 40. WELL THEY DID FOR THE LADIES AND THE PIZZA THING SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN ANY DIFFERENT THEN HUH.
WHAT WAS ALSO ENTERTAINING WAS YOU WITH ALL OF THE WILD CARS SCALPING THEM AT THE WICKED EVENT, WHY BECAUSE THE WICKED HAD OVER 600 PEOPLE THERE COMPARED TO THE WILD APPROX 70 PEOPLE, YOU ACTUALLY HAD FOLKS THAT WERE HAVING A GREAT TIME WITH THERE FAMILY AND HAD $$ TO SPEND. MIND YOU UNDERCUTTING THE FEW OF US THAT ATTENDED BOTH EVENTS AND HAD CARS FOR TRADE.
WAS FUNNY YOU HAD THE WHOLE WILD STORE SET UP IN THE ROOM. YOU HAD 4 ZINGER CAMAROS THERE THAT I SAW. 4 THAT COULD HAVE GONE TO THE PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED BUT NO YOU WERE THERE SCALPING THEM FOR 400$( yeah tell me i was wrong and then tell us all what you did sell them for LOL) prove it tommy!
SO YOU BEING STAFF GOT 4 CAMAROS TOMMY? no? THEY WERE RANDYS? EARMARKED FOR YOU TO SCALP THEM?
I WOULD THINK THOSE 4 YOU HAD COULD HAVE BEEN AUCTIONED FOR CHARITY HUH.
NAH WHY WHEN YOU CAN SCALP THEM

WELL THIS YEAR YOU CAN HAVE TENT TO TENT TRADING OUT IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE RESTURANT, SEEMS A WEEK AWAY YOU WOULD SEE IT ON THE WEB PAGE.
BUT SINCE NO ONE BOUGHT TICKETS BUT A FEW CLUB MEMBERS YOU CAN TELL THEM FACE TO FACE HUH

that is enough for the moment, but would be more than happy to continue tommy

(BTW, last year we offered kids under 12— who wanted the accompanying convention car— a half-price fee.)

This is not true I paid for my son to go an yes it was half price but you didn't get the car. Unless the person working the counter didn't know what they were talking about and if that is the case I want my car

regarding last year's event, the Zinger WLs were NEVER produced as an event car. They were originally produced to be the gift car for the Wild staff. Think about it... only 40 were produced... why would anyone make such a small amount of cars otherwise? And those that weren't earmarked for the staff went to the charity auction, into the vending machine, etc., and so were available to attendees who were either lucky enough to win one, or who bid in the charity auction.

Again some more errors here. The way the event was promoted was that the zinger wl was going to be a dinner car of some sort. I couldn't care less as I only collect vipers but there were someone that I was supposed to be getting one for and when I was talking on the phone with one of the promoters they told me the car was going to be for the employees then quickly said oh I wasn't supposed to say that please don't mention it. I tried the whole convention to try to get a staff member to trade me when they got them but the whole time they said they didn't know anything about it but you could tell they had the smile on their face. On Sat I finally got one of the guys to promiss the trade. Also there were only 40 of the VW bug wls and those were available to attendees "think about it" ! BTW there also was No vending machine (athough I think it was advertised that way) just that stupid slot machine and no one won the zinger from it! I believe there were only 2 zingers in the pack in the auction and one of the posters here is one that bought one from the auction so don't bash so hard!

I see that there is apparent dissatisfaction with that auction as posted here, but as I said before, I am only going to reply to things that I have first-hand knowledge about, and I don't know why auction items were pulled.

I think there was a complete dissatisfaction with the whole event last year and unfortunatly people remember that. I want to be completly honest here. I loved wild weekend 2 and 3 and I wish they would have continued on the same path. I just didn't see any of those qualitys at 4. I would still be going to the wild had last year been a half way decent show however it wasn'tand that is solely why I am trying a new show this year. The wicked may suck too I won't know until after the event but I am willing to give them the $$ this year to see if all the positive things I saw at the wild 2 and 3 were from those members that split and are now doing the wicked.

I do wish that none of this would have happened as the events could do so much more if more people were involved. I am sorry if any of my questions spurred any animosity between the groups I just needed to know what was so important to make this split. If Randy kicked them out of the pizza shop because he was voted out of office than shame on him. I am sorry but that seems like a lame excuss I hope that that isn't true.

I wish that both venues have a great event and that peace will eventually be restored between the two.

For those going to the Wicked I'll see you there!

As I Recall Last Year , When That Outstanding Event The "wicked Weekend Of Hotwheels" Took Place. The Wicked Was Being Bashed Same As This Year.
I Also Remember Making Statements That It Was The Volunteers Who Made Wild What Is Was And All The Posts Claiming That Was False. The Volunters Were The Club Members And Guess What With So Few Members Wild Has A Event That Has Crashed And Burned.

WOW TOMMY HERE IS YOUR POSTS FROM A YEAR AGO

Posted 08-02-04 07:31 AM I attended both the Wild Weekend of Wheels and Wicked Weekend, and Wild Weekend was the more professionally organized event. Come on, Wicked organizers... you didn't even acknowledge or thank your guest of honor, Ira Gilford, at the dinner! And the convention package... have you ever heard of grammar and spell check... apparently not!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
FIRST YEAR EVENT AND I THINK WICKED DID A GREAT JOB. YOU ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT GRAMMAR, IS THAT ALL YOU HAVE?
LET US SEE, LIES ABOUT WHAT CARS WE WERE TO RECEIVE, THE EVER SO PROFESSTIONAL RUN AUCTION WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN OUR HIGH BIDS WERE NOT ACCEPTED AND THE PROMOTER RAN OUT OF THE ROOM IN DISGUST. OH LET US NOT FORGET ALL THE GUESTS OF HONOR THAT WILD HAD THAT WERE A NO SHOW, ALTHOUGH THEY WERE HIGHLY PROMOTED TO BE THERE. YEAH LET US ACKNOWLEDGE THEM .
>>>>>>>>> Posted 08-02-04 10:48 AM to HR jackson...
I'm certainly glad your staff thanked Ira...but he wasn't acknowledged publicly to the people sitting at the tables. How could he be? There was no microphone or podium set up during the dinner. And judging by the anger in your reply, you obviously feel the need to become defensive. Why, if you threw such a great event? I offered a couple of common-sense comments (a.k.a. constructive criticism)... not bashes against the event. It was a decent first effort. But spelling and grammatical errors always diminish credibility...something you shouldn't see in an event with a national audience. And for the record, I would rather have a convention car made by Johnny Lightning than a re-worked First Edition. Guess there's just no accoounting for taste. And if you are representative of the personalities of the staff who worked on the event...not to worry... I won't be attending again.<<<<<<<<<<<
WOW TOMMY I SEE A SPELLING ERROR (accoounting) SHAME ON YOU BOY!
I DON'T NEED TO COMMENT ABUT THE ABOVE STAEMENT FROM TOMMY, YOU CAN SEE THE ATTITUDE HE HAS YOURSELF. ONCE AGAIN WICKED HAS NO TASTE.

http://forums.hotwheelscollectors.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/9894052942/m/704103814/r/704103814?m=704103814&a=tpc&s=7014089532&r=704103814&f=9894052942
HOPEFULLY THE LINK WORKS COPYWRITER IS TOMMY , JUST IN CASE YOU DID NOT KNOW THAT.

This is all fueled on money and value of product. Just what HWC.com wants you to do (I know this is a muscle machines event but everyone involved is a quote HW collector). Its not collecting, it gathering of assets and holding them for profit.

Is this the point where I jump in here and chase more people off the boards???

Dave Thats what the Wild is built on!
The Wicked is Built on the collector from the start We at the Wicked are FOR THE COLLECTORS!!!!!!!
The Wild is built on ticket sales and making the mighty dollar$$
Always was in the past and still is sorry to say!
Its too bad people with such big egos Like Tom & Randy & there bunch hurt the collectors hopes & out looks. All daman asked was whats going on and now 3 pages of BS
If Tom would have come out and said hey ok guys its going to be down sized because of the economy hey ok. Instead we get this bashing you said this and He lyed and the did this Enough!!!!!!!! It just Don't matter anymore

Then you have just the mud slingers too! Enough!

Well you know somthing Tommy I feel sorry forya bud
I know you ment well I know You thought you were doing the right thing But you were not. You we driven buy the mighty Dollar! That just sucks!

You know i would have come to the Wild this year but the way things were said and the way you acted. Not I'll go to the Wicked to see my buddies. You know somthin I would be the 1st to say Randy can put on a good show! Hell look at Wild 1 2 3 then he had to get the mighty dollar! If egos did not play into thing WOW it could have been great. Now don't come back Tommy and saying the other guys started it! We all our a little at fault. Lets be truthfull. Lets Just end this thread Now with a week to go and just have a good time at our events and just play nice!

When you really get down to it its really not the money or the cars its the kids that we do it for!

Just my 2 cents

peace out! :wave:

Im sure the Wicked will be the better show. :thumbsup:

the best thing you said mohawk is lets end the thread. fist smart thing i've heard in days.

Jim, I know your out there, How about that post on the WICKED WEEKEND II now?
I know you have your tickets already, so you gotta be going

the rhode island club suports all hot wheel activity. always has, i don't support all the negative talk, it only hurts all of us as collectors. i'm going to wild and i'm going to wicked because as a collector thats what i do. perhaps, mohawk , daman, and you can identify yourself i'd love to know who i'm talking to. I'm not a big fan of the alias.

Like Fast says!
But How about it? How about that post on the WICKED WEEKEND II now?

remmember what comes around like you said

what post are you talking about.