I just saw this (3 hours worth) today and am very impressed--it was a great story and cartoon and seemed pretty faithful to the style and hardware of the movies. :thumbsup:

It seems to fill a gap between the 2nd and 3rd movies. From what I've heard, Lucas marshals the material in the books, games, and comics and other SW stories so that they're all basically 'canon'.

I'm sure a lot of y'all have seen this. It is basically a compilation of the shorter episodes. What do you think? :confused:

I watched the last hour and a half and thought it was interesting and well done. My guess is that it leads directly into the 3rd film. It ends on a shot of the battle over Coruscant, the kidnapping, etc. and I'm guessing the film opens with that same huge battle. (going by the commercials). Of course, someone out there has certainly seen the film and probably knows for sure.

It seems to fill a gap between the 2nd and 3rd movies.I rather like Clone Wars. You are correct, this series takes place between Episodes II and III and is meant to fill in a bit more of the Star Wars history.

From what I've heard, Lucas marshals the material in the books, games, and comics and other SW stories so that they're all basically 'canon'.This is also correct. Between the releases of "A New Hope" and "The Empire Strikes Back", Alan Dean Foster wrote the first Star Wars novel titled "Splinter of the Mind's Eye". In this novel...well, let's just say there's some interesting interaction between Luke and Leia--interaction that would become "questionable" given the revelations contained in "Empire" and "Return of the Jedi". This novel (and it's character development) was allegedly "okayed" by Lucasfilm, but it seems Lord Lucas took it upon himself to examine all Star Wars related products much more closely since then.

Side note: It was only within the last few years that Lucas finally admitted Alan Dean Foster ghost wrote the novelization of "Star Wars: A New Hope" that was issued back in the 70's.

Side note: It was only within the last few years that Lucas finally admitted Alan Dean Foster ghost wrote the novelization of "Star Wars: A New Hope" that was issued back in the 70's.

Really? I hadn't heard that. I definitely read a lot of Alan Dean Foster from his ST:TAS novelizations. I thought the Star Wars novel was unusually well written for a first time novelist (Lucas). :freak:

It ends on a shot of the battle over Coruscant, the kidnapping, etc. and I'm guessing the film opens with that same huge battle. (going by the commercials).

That's what I was trying to figure out. It seems that the cartoon is almost required viewing to understand some of the finer points of the movie if there isn't some overlap between the events in the cartoon and the upcoming movie. I liked the lightsaber ceremony where Yoda cut off Anakin's pigtail as a sign of becoming a Jedi Knight.

The opening crawl of ROTS effectively recaps everything the 'toons actually showed us, and the last moments of the last chapter of CW is, for all practical purposes, the shot just "before" the opening moments of ROTS.

In this novel...well, let's just say there's some interesting interaction between Luke and Leia--interaction that would become "questionable" given the revelations contained in "Empire" and "Return of the Jedi". This novel (and it's character development) was allegedly "okayed" by Lucasfilm, but it seems Lord Lucas took it upon himself to examine all Star Wars related products much more closely since then.

That's a fan-boy way to look at it -don't mean to sound demeaning. In my opinion, it's classic and solid proof of Lucas Revisionist-History. I'm a huge SW franchise fan. Don't get me wrong, but I NEVER bought into Lucas' grand vision of the whole "saga". When he penned ANH, I think he had good plot, character, and an incredible vision of something unique. After the accolades and awards, he got big headed and had delusions of frabricated memories with regards to the "saga" and how he always knew Vader was Luke's father and Leia was "sister". BS. He didn't figure that out until he wrapped on ANH and the box office receipts came in -sure he may have "thought" about it in his head along with twenty other plot lines. But it wasn't the one grand vision. Look at the Foster novel, look at the promotional shots of Hamill and Fischer kissing in Hoth gear! That's not brotherly and sisterly west of the Mason-Dixon.

I don't know why he's so adamant about the whole premise. Just say, "...I didn't have the entire universe planned out in my head, and when ANH hit big I knew I had to write the rest of it". Instead he carries on with, "I had this whole thing planned out just like it is the entire time".

Whatever. :rolleyes:

I have to admit it's been at least 25 years since I've read "Splinter", and my statement above was based on the memory of my reaction at the time it was first revealed that Luke and Leia were siblings and how that really didn't fit with their relationship in that novel. But Lucas' unrelenting "watch-dogging" of all things Star Wars began about the time "Splinter" became a hit among Star Wars fans. I'm not saying that's strictly because of the novel, but I'm sure that's one of the many things that contributed to it.

My "Lord Lucas" reference was a nod to the "control-freak" arrogant attitude he sometimes displays regarding "his" story. I share your opinion about how Lucas "doth protest too much" about how much of the story he really had mapped out before ANH finished filming. I think he had an outline of the story he wanted to tell, and only detailed the portion he told in ANH because he had to finish the script.

BTW, I'll admit that I have built most of the AMT Star Wars model kits in my day. But of all the Star Wars novels that have been written, I've read two. My preferred answer to most Star Wars trivia questions is, "Who gives a rat's ass?" I've never attended a Star Wars convention, and I don't know spit about the "Expanded Universe". So I'm not even in the running when it comes to being a "fan-boy".

Now, if you'll excuse me, my Stormtrooper Underoos are riding up. :D

^^I agree. It's obvious that Lucas has been revising things from the beginning. Turning the first movie into episode 4 is one example. The special editions and DVD versions' 'improvements' are other examples. It's his property and his right to do so but, as pointed out, the rationalizations for the revisions do wear a little thin.

BTW, I'll admit that I have built most of the AMT Star Wars model kits in my day. But of all the Star Wars novels that have been written, I've read two. My preferred answer to most Star Wars trivia questions is, "Who gives a rat's ass?" I've never attended a Star Wars convention, and I don't know spit about the "Expanded Universe". So I'm not even in the running when it comes to being a "fan-boy".

My wife has actually read more SW books than I have, and she is by no means a fan girl. I've read four novels: "Shadows of the Empire" (OK, but not worth the hype it was given) and the three "Tales from..." books ("Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina", "Tales of the Bounty Hunters" and "Tales from Jabba's Palace"). FWIW, I recommend the "Tales" books. They're short stories that are very well written and it's kind of a kick to read the tales and then go back to the scenes that appear in the movie.

José

I read the first three novelizations of the movies as well as Splinter of the Mind's Eye (very good as I recall) but have read nothing SW since.

I also quit reading ST novelizations when they all seemed to be written at the 3rd or 4th grade level after a while. The best two as I recall of the ones I've read are Spock Messiah and Spock Must Die. :thumbsup:

My preferred answer to most Star Wars trivia questions is, "Who gives a rat's ass?" I've never attended a Star Wars convention, and I don't know spit about the "Expanded Universe". So I'm not even in the running when it comes to being a "fan-boy".

Now, if you'll excuse me, my Stormtrooper Underoos are riding up. :D

:-) Unfortnately I've read a "few" exapanded universe stuff, only the Rogue Squadron books. They looked interesting and I was going "away" to some place very dry and sandy and the set of three paperbacks at the bookstore looked as though it was going to keep my company pretty nicely.

When I said "fan-boy" that was meant as a collective you-type thing and not directly at you. Sorry if that was taken that way.

I have stormtrooper boxers so I don't have the ride up problem, but it's time to dust off and rewax my Classic Action Darth Vader helmet with a VaderPainter paint job...

:-) Unfortnately I've read a "few" exapanded universe stuff, only the Rogue Squadron books. They looked interesting and I was going "away" to some place very dry and sandy and the set of three paperbacks at the bookstore looked as though it was going to keep my company pretty nicely.The other novel I read was "Tatooine Ghost" by Troy Denning; I grabbed a copy at the airport last year when I found myself short on reading material for a flight to Georgia. I enjoyed it, and I'd recommend it to any Star Wars fan.

When I said "fan-boy" that was meant as a collective you-type thing and not directly at you. Sorry if that was taken that way.Well, I'll admit my first reaction was to go on the defensive, because I generally use the term "fan-boy" as an insult. But after I stopped and thought about it I realized you were using it in a much broader sense, which is why I threw in the Underoos joke to lighten things up. Besides, there's no reason you should apologize for voicing your opinion!

...it's time to dust off and rewax my Classic Action Darth Vader helmet with a VaderPainter paint job...I still have my original, low-budget, p.o.s. Don Post two-piece Vader helmet that was released while the movie was still in the theaters. One of these days I might get around to fixing it up a bit.

Star Wars! I really like the Clone Wars animated, lots of mind blowing action.

Brian Daley, who wrote the radio series, also wrote "Rebel Mission to Ord Mantel" that was released on record. It takes place between Episode 4 & 5. It was a full cast recording.

This fan-boy has a pretty good collection, that I started in 1977. I hope to build a light sabre, so I can become a Jedi.

Oh, and I liked Jar Jar Binks. ducking!

Side note: It was only within the last few years that Lucas finally admitted Alan Dean Foster ghost wrote the novelization of "Star Wars: A New Hope" that was issued back in the 70's.

I remember seeing a reference book stating that Alan Dean Foster wrote SPLINTER while I was in college in the early '80s. So even if Lucas didn't officially admit it, it has been apparently known for over twenty years.

EDIT: Of course I meant the novelization, not SPLINTER.

I hope to build a light sabre, so I can become a Jedi.I already have. :rolleyes: Hmmm...maybe I am a fan-boy... :p

I remember seeing a reference book stating that Alan Dean Foster wrote SPLINTER while I was in college in the early '80s. So even if Lucas didn't officially admit it, it has been apparently known for over twenty years.Yeah, it wasn't exactly the best kept secret in the history of mankind. ;)