My hero Pope John Paul II has passed away. :cry: :cry:
He is in the hands of God now.

My hero Pope John Paul II has passed away. :cry: :cry:
He is in the hands of God now.

Dude! Where did you get this information? He is still alive as of 1:00pm CST! 4/1/2005.

Is this a cruel April fools joke?

No it is not. I work for a Catholic organization with direct ties from Rome.
Sorry to say it's True. :cry: :cry: :cry:
I would never kid about anything like this.

hmmmm .... may need to go check the CNN site . i know he was in prety bad shape last i read .
hb

Very odd, though. CNN is reporting as I write this, that the Vatican has denied reports that the Pope has died. Hate when things happen like this on today's date. You're never sure whether to believe it or not.

Larry

i honestly don't think Mitch would be jokin' about this .
i'm lookin at todays paper and the head line reads : Faithful Gather as Last Rites are Reportedly Given .
hb

As of 2:30 PM Eastern Time Friday:

The Vatican says Pope John Paul II's health has worsened. "The general conditions and cardio-respiratory conditions of the Holy Father have further worsened. A gradual worsening arterial hypotension has been noted, and breathing has become shallow," the Vatican press office said.

Not yet!

They are saying that Frank Purdue has died tho...

Can you answer me something? Why did the Catholic Church protect the Pedophiles by transfering them to other parishes? They have spent millions on settling lawsuits..It may not be the place for this but if the Pope KNEW about it and did nothing, he is as guilty as the one's who did it.
IN ORDER to preserve the purity of God’s worship, the Bible lays upon the Christian congregation the responsibility to ‘remove the wicked man from among themselves.’ (1 Cor. 5:13) This cutting off, disfellowshiping, or excommunicating from God’s visible organization preserves His pure worship, acts as a protection for the entire congregation, and also may move the wrongdoer to repent of his wicked works and become reconciled to God.—2 Cor. 7:10. Those priests never did such a thing and the Pope never took any action against them.

:rolleyes: This ain't the place for that, dude....

Agreed, not the place for it at all.

And, a quarter after four Eastern, Live coverage from CNN says he's still with us.

Matthew, when I am in a better mind set I will be dealing with you!

That is the most tasteless thing I've seen done here on the BB in a long time. Being a sceptic I can deal with, at least an intellegent conversation could result from two points of view but you are just an ass! Plain and simple.

You and your glasshouse would not be worthy of The Pope's goodness thoughts but he would be the first to respect you. Unbelieveable, that a person like you can function in society. Who are you? What have you done that makes you so great? and where do you get off?!

You have totally infuriated me with your spineless, heartless uninformed jab at the dignity of Pope JP2. You have no clue what you are talking about. And when you come forward with all the great you've done in the world you can even attempt to Judge someone else.

I think you both need to lighten up, chill out, and take this crap off the boards.

as i read the newspaper article i noted that Last Rites are now called the Sacrement of the Anointing of the Sick .
when i saw Last Rites i just thought the worst . still though , it seems just a matter of time now .
may he pass easy and not suffer . though not a Catholic myself , i have the utmost respect for him .
hb

I'm not Catholic and I have problems with some Catholic church doctrine (though I still believe Catholics are true Christians). All that said, the sight of John Paul II forgiving the man who shot him is something I will always remember and it will always make me feel humble.

Qapla'

SSB

why is this in Movies for Modelers?

Because pretty soon well have a TV movie about the life and times of The Pope...

you mean there will soon be an Official Pope scale model ???

As of 6:00 John Paul was still with us, though the Vatican reportedly claims that his condition is deteriorating quickly.

He has dedicated his suffering for all of us according to CNN.

It does appear the end is near for one of the most prominent figures in the history of the Catholic Church.

His successor will have an extremely hard act to follow...:cry:

When the pedophiles DIE, God will deal with them.

And as of 7PM EST The Pope still clings to life.

He has dedicated his suffering for all of us according to CNN.


Okayyy.... I'll dedicate my next orgasm to him. Or something.


Frank Purdue is setting a heavenly table with chicken for him. Terri Scaivo is pouring the wine.

CBC Newsworld is talking about the Pope's passing even now. I did wonder if he'd have made it through the weekend. Guess not.

Okayyy.... I'll dedicate my next orgasm to him. Or something.


Frank Purdue is setting a heavenly table with chicken for him. Terri Scaivo is pouring the wine.

Real classy John. I guess I expected more from you.

I am not Catholic, but the little woman is.

Though I am not of the Catholic faith, I duly respect her religious beliefs and participate in certain ceremonies that are significant to her, mostly those that fall on the holidays.

Neither one of us are regular church-goers. Myself in particular. But, I certainly respect the Pope and his respect for life and family values. He has always presented himself as a very good and decent man, often displaying a keen sense of humor and sharp wit, and I am saddened at his imminent passing. Naturally, the little woman is crushed by the news.

The thing about the Pope that let's me know that he is a true Christian is that he forgave the man who shot him. Whatever your beliefs, it takes a man of the utmost faith and compassion to do such a thing. I respect that.

HOW many father’s do you have? "Why, I have only one!" you may reply. And true, every man that has ever lived has had at least one father; even Adam, for we read, "Adam, the son of God."—Luke 3:38.

But if you are a Roman Catholic you would have well over 425,000 "fathers"; since that is the number of Roman Catholic priests in the world and your religion requires that you address them all as "Father." At least that is the requirement in English-speaking lands. But many other religions refuse to recognize this title for priests, ministers or pastors. What does the Bible say? It is God’s Word, concerning which Jesus said to his heavenly Father, "Your word is truth."—John 17:17.

The term "father" occurs some 1,750 times in the Scriptures, in singular, plural and possessive forms. Primarily it is used to refer to literal fathers and to male ancestors. At times it is also used to refer to the older men of one’s people, in which sense both Stephen, the first Christian martyr, and the apostle Paul used it.—Acts 7:2; 22:1, RS.

All who are true Christians also have another Father. Do they not pray, "Our Father in the heavens"? (Matt. 6:9) In fact, as far back as the time of Moses, God was spoken of as the Father of his people. (Deut. 32:6; Ps. 89:26; Isa. 63:16; 64:8) The apostle Paul makes one or more references to Jehovah God as Father in every one of his letters. He also refers to God as "the Father of glory," even as the disciple James speaks of God as "the Father of the celestial lights."—Eph. 1:17; Jas. 1:17.

Jesus Christ is also termed "Father" in the Scriptures. Thus at Isaiah 9:6 he is termed the "Eternal Father." This he is in two senses: In that he himself lives eternally and in that he gives eternal life to his children. Especially is he the Father of the "great crowd" of "other sheep"; his anointed footstep followers being often referred to as his brothers.—John 10:16; Rev. 7:9.

The term "father" is also used in the sense of chief, founder or first one. Thus Abraham is called the "father of all those having faith." (Rom. 4:11) At Genesis 4:21 we find Jubal termed the "father" or founder of musicians. (RS) And Jesus termed Satan the Devil "the father of the lie."—John 8:44.

Then, again, the Bible uses "father" merely as a term of respect. The prophet Elisha addressed the prophet Elijah as "my father." Two kings of Israel, in turn, addressed Elisha as "my father." The servants of the Syrian general Naaman addressed their master as "my father."—2 Ki. 2:12; 6:21; 13:14; 5:13.

The apostle Paul stated that he was a father in a spiritual sense in that he brought the hope of everlasting life to others. Thus he wrote to the Christians at Corinth: "Though you may have ten thousand tutors in Christ, you certainly do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have become your father through the good news." He spoke of Onesimus as "my child, to whom I became a father," and also referred to Timothy as "my beloved child." Not only did Paul liken himself to a father, but he also said that he was like a mother to those whom he taught the good news.—1 Cor. 4:15; Philem. 10; 1 Tim. 1:2; 2 Tim. 1:2, RS; 1 Thess. 2:7, 11.

Concerning the use of the term "Father" in Christendom today The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church states: "In England . . . all Roman Catholic priests . . . are now called ‘Father,’ a custom introduced apparently from Ireland in the latter half of the nineteenth century. It has also come into wide currency among Anglo-Catholics. On the continent other terms are used for the secular clergy." The New Catholic Encyclopedia tells of the use of the term in the United States. Thus the Jesuit weekly, America, September 20, 1969, had an article entitled "In Memoriam: Father Gardiner," and in another article mentioned upward of twenty different priests, the names of all of whom began with the initials "Fr.", an abbreviation of the title "Father."

What about this use of the term "Father" as a title for the clergy? Does the fact that the term "father" is so often used in the Scriptures, and that in various ways, justify such use? Well, what does Jesus Christ say about the matter? He specifically commanded his followers: "Do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One." Clearly he meant that "Father" as a religious title should be used only in referring to Jehovah God, the heavenly Father. That Jesus did not mean to preclude referring to one’s literal father as "father" is clear from his own frequent use of the term father in this sense.—Matt. 23:9; 10:37; Mark 10:29; Luke 15:20.

But what about the apostle Paul’s referring to himself as "father"? There was good reason for his referring to himself as the spiritual "father" of certain ones, for he brought spiritual life to them. It was only to such ones that he spoke of himself as their father. But did any of these address Paul as "Father Paul"? Absolutely not! Nowhere in the Scriptures do we ever read of him or of Peter or any of the other apostles being addressed as "Father."

There is also the term "Holy Father" as given to the popes of Rome. What about it? If no one on earth is to be given the religious title "Father," then still less should any man be called "Holy Father." Jesus in prayer addressed God in heaven as "Holy Father." (John 17:11) Now, would it be proper to take that title that the Bible applies only to God and apply it to a man? For those who truly desire to please God, the answer is obvious.

So, how many fathers do you have? You have your literal father who begot you. Jehovah God and Jesus Christ may also be your Fathers, depending upon your faith and works. And so also can the Christian minister who brought you the life-giving truth from God speak of himself as your father through the good news. But there is no man on earth, not even the one who taught you God’s Word, whom you should address with the religious title "Father."

Funny, I always thought the line was, "Luke, I am your FATHER!"

so why is this thread here??
is the the official Pope models forum??

isnt there a more appropriate forum than this one for the Pope death watch??

EVERYBODY......lighten up.

Al lot of people have posted when someone of interest to them has died and it didn't totally relate to modeling.
While the pope's passing doesn't mean anything to me, I respect that it means something to someone.

Talking about religion is always a touchy subject and its shown its dark side here.

The words out and now I think we should just lock this thread.

as of 6:34 am est saturday. ap is reporting the pope is fading, but still alive, in a story posted 7 minutes ago.

Even though I am now agnostic, I was raised Catholic (as I got older I found I agreed less & less with church doctrine). In no way does it diminish my respect for this man and what he has accomplished during his papacy.

If he dedicated his suffering for all of us, should that come as a surprise? If you are of the Christian faith, you are surely already well aware that Jesus Christ did the same.

Regardless of your faith, the imminent passing of a man who dedicated his life to God, the celebration of life, and the good in humanity saddens me.

If you don't agree, that's fine...

I just think the tacky remarks are out of place and only hurtful to those of us who will mourn his passing.

Almost 9AM.
Still alive.

I wonder who's never-ending deathwatch the news channels will subject us to in the weeks following THIS one. They're wracking their brains to figure out how they can be as annoying as possible, without a person somewhere being near death for an extended period.

I wonder if Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

I wonder if CNN's saturday afternoon science show will be canceled for the THIRD week in a row - at least it probably won't be a Schiavo press conference this time. Probably.

John Edwards says the chicken is getting cold....

Sorry! Our Communications Director got some wrong info about
the Popes Death- I'd like to strangle her!!
Again, I'm sorry!

Can you answer me something? Why did the Catholic Church protect the Pedophiles by transfering them to other parishes? They have spent millions on settling lawsuits..It may not be the place for this but if the Pope KNEW about it and did nothing, he is as guilty as the one's who did it.
IN ORDER to preserve the purity of God’s worship, the Bible lays upon the Christian congregation the responsibility to ‘remove the wicked man from among themselves.’ (1 Cor. 5:13) This cutting off, disfellowshiping, or excommunicating from God’s visible organization preserves His pure worship, acts as a protection for the entire congregation, and also may move the wrongdoer to repent of his wicked works and become reconciled to God.—2 Cor. 7:10. Those priests never did such a thing and the Pope never took any action against them.


I AGREE-This isn't the time or place - "Jesus said those without sin may cast
the first stone"... Nuff said before I say something I may regret to you. :mad: :mad:

"People who live in stucco houses shouldn't throw quiche."
----Sonny Crocket.

Okayyy.... I'll dedicate my next orgasm to him. Or something.


Frank Purdue is setting a heavenly table with chicken for him. Terri Scaivo is pouring the wine.

John ... I've lost all respect for you- Go make another Porno flick!!

:mad: :mad:

EVERYBODY......lighten up.

Al lot of people have posted when someone of interest to them has died and it didn't totally relate to modeling.
While the pope's passing doesn't mean anything to me, I respect that it means something to someone.

Talking about religion is always a touchy subject and its shown its dark side here.

The words out and now I think we should just lock this thread.
People don't Talk about Models here This is a Movie thread!!! Movies about
STAR Trek, and Super Heros every day. I've been a member of this board for
over 3 years and I have a RIGHT To POST TO A REAL HERO, not to drool
and babble over pretend movies trash!!! This is not a talk on Religion, But remembering a GREAT MAN!!! HE WAS ALSO AN ACTOR AND A PLAYWRIGHT
ONE OF THE STORIES HE WROTE WAS MADE A MOVIE WICH STARED
BURT LANCASTER IN BELIEVE IT WAS CALLED THE "JEWLERS SHOP"
SO YES, HE DESERVES A PLACE HERE.

When was there a movie about the Pope?

Real classy John. I guess I expected more from you.

And yet.
Hey, after weeks and weeksandweeksandweeks of the news channels fixated on one deathwatch or another, I've passed "numb" and gone on to "sick of it." I don't care WHO's dying any more.

How about a BIRTHwatch next week? Is there any famous person about to have a kid? Let's have the media hang out outside their house and constantly run footage of them doing LaMazz for weeks. At least that won't be so goddam depressing.

John - Maybe you can pop one of your porno flicks you star in and
give yourself a "hand"

The last scene in "Caress of the Vampire" is especially good for that.

John, I'll agree with you on 1 point...generally speaking, I'm sick to my soul of the "deathwatch" mentality of the media.

Case in point...Terri Schiavo. Of course I felt bad. Most people did. But way more than I ever needed to know was in my face every time I turned on the news.

I think the Pope is considerably different. Unless you live in Florida, most people had never heard of Terri Schiavo until the national media ghouls picked up on the story.

The Pope touched millions of lives over the last quarter century. I don't see this coverage as overkill in the least.

Somehow I doubt too many people felt like their Cheerios had been pissed in because "Ozzie & Harriet" was interrupted to cover JFK's assasination.

"Jesus said those without sin may cast
the first stone"... Nuff said before I say something I may regret to you.


But the REST of the verse is "Go and sin no more"...NOT keeping doing it and keep covering over it for years and decades destroying lives in the process....The BIBLE is VERY clear. Remove the Wicked man from among yourselves. You just quoting "he who is without sin cast the first stone" gives no responsibility for those that keep on doing gross sins....I am SO sorry if you feel pedophile is such a light sin and we shouldn't talk about it because we are ALL sinners....The Bible paints a different picture though.

Sorry, since some seem they can't hold a civil discussion on some topics I am closing this thread.