New Ozite Indoor Carpet Track (78 x 37 feet)

If you plan on using tire traction compound, use either Niftech or an odorless compound such as
Paragon Traction Action or Trinity Zip Free.

To protect the carpet, all off-road cars must use street or foam type tires and protective covering on the bottom of the chassis.

Race Fees Purchase nine race or practice passes and get the tenth one FREE.

1st class $15.00
2nd class or family member $9.00

Kids 10 years old and younger race for free.

Money back guarantee: If you don't start ½ of your races,

we will refund 100% of your race fee.

Trophy and Point Series Races will be staggered starts (IFMAR) All other races will be heads up starts.

Race Classes & Times (Starting September 21st 2005)

Must have 4 cars to make a class.

Wednesday

Oval 1/12, 1/10 & 1/18 scale
2 heats and main, five minute races
Heats will be resorted after 1st round.
Track open for practice 5:00-6:30pm
Race at 7:00pm
Must be signed up to race by 6:30pm
Saturday

Stadium Racing 1/10 & 1/18 scale
3 heats and main, five minute races
Heats will be resorted after 2nd round
Track open for practice 10:00-11:30am
Race at 12:00pm
Must be signed up to race by 11:30am
Sunday

Road Course 1/12, 1/10 & 1/18 scale
3 heats and main,
1/12 eight minute, 1/10 & 1/18 five minute races
Heats will be resorted after 2nd round.
Track open for practice 10:00-11:30am
Race at 12:00pm
Must be signed up to race by 11:30am


Practice Fees (Starting June? 2005)

$10.00 per day, Purchase nine race or practice passes and get the tenth one FREE.

Kids 10 years old and younger practice for free.

Tuesday: Oval Practice

Monday & Thursday: Road Course Practice

Friday: Stadium Practice

Times and prices subject to change without notice.

Questions? E-mail Jon at: auctions@hobby-sports.com

Hobby-Sports.com - 9782 Portage Road - Portage, MI 49002 - Phone: 323-3686

Come on! No regular old fashion Paragon!!????? Why not? It is used at every big race. The unscented Paragon is like superglue..... I am sure that more of the seasoned carpet racers will show if regular Paragon is allowed.

Come on! No regular old fashion Paragon!!????? Why not? It is used at every big race. The unscented Paragon is like superglue..... I am sure that more of the seasoned carpet racers will show if regular Paragon is allowed.


Try something new, the reason they are comming out with unscented tire dope is so at the end of the day you dont feel like crap !

Try something new, the reason they are comming out with unscented tire dope is so at the end of the day you dont feel like crap !
Tryed them, they suck, Oh well.

Atleast it will be the same for everyone....



Are any of you GR guys going to come down and show us former off roaders how its done on carpet?



BTW, is there tons of traction when the carpet is new or does it keep getting better with age?

Atleast it will be the same for everyone....
Are any of you GR guys going to come down and show us former off roaders how its done on carpet?
BTW, is there tons of traction when the carpet is new or does it keep getting better with age?
You bet,
I'll come down and check it out.

BTW, is there tons of traction when the carpet is new or does it keep getting better with age?

The bite is gets more and more if you run the same layout. When the capet starts to go the bite goes down.

I am so happy to read that a track is using odorless compounds. I think they all work the same and if you ask me, I would rather keep the brain cells that you would destroy sniffing that paragon junk. Great decision.
Any pictures of the track yet?

Someone said the carpet is different from Snowbirds???

It is bought from crc (calandra) And it will be finished after we get the outdoor track done for the nitro series.
Pictures will go up when its done and im sure Jon will post them soon after the completion.
here is a picture of our inspiration:
track inspiration (http://www.teamcrc.com/crc/images/stories/trackdone2.jpg)
our goal is to be the best carpet track in lower michigan
The bar will be set high.


heres a link to the carpet vendor
Team crc (http://www.teamcrc.com/)

That is a commendable goal and yes you have set the bar high for yourselves.
Terry Rott and Crew are hard to beat when it comes to track building.

forget the outdoor nitro and run summer indoor carpet prob. get bigger turn out

Is the new track going to be wheelchair freindly.

oval is the same price even though we only run 2 heats?

thats a good idea dave need to make new drivers stand and enter and exit in 2 dif. areas

get you a car for this weekend hollis everyone is going to fort wayne

I have run at Larry's where you "have" to run the unscented stuff and it is filthy and turns the tires into mush. I will come and race and so will others from Grand Rapids (the Terry Rott crew) if it's great we'll have a lot of fun and we'll buy a bunch of stuff at the hobby shop, if it's lame........ Keep in mind there is a reason that EVERY "big" race allows the old school Paragon. I love the smell of wintergreen.

The black stuff is the TQ still in the carpet.

PARAGON!!!!

I'm looking forward to running carpet, but I think paragon should be allowed. If you are trying to make the track as good as it can be, you have to let the traction be as good as it can be. If all the big races are allowing it, it should be allowed at RnL (Hobby-Sports) whatever.

You don't wanna hurt your turnout right off the bat for such a minor issue by not allowing the best traction compound available.

Brayden

forget the outdoor nitro and run summer indoor carpet prob. get bigger turn out


Nitro Rocks ! Who wants to race inside in the summer ? I know I dont !

PARAGON!!!!

I'm looking forward to running carpet, but I think paragon should be allowed. If you are trying to make the track as good as it can be, you have to let the traction be as good as it can be. If all the big races are allowing it, it should be allowed at RnL (Hobby-Sports) whatever.

You don't wanna hurt your turnout right off the bat for such a minor issue by not allowing the best traction compound available.

Brayden


This isnt a big race and a lot of people dont like to breath paragon. You were just here last week and you dont even know are name.

Jon, so paragon may be allowed for trophy and points series races..?
just so everyone is clear....

may we put it on our tires outside during regular days?

Jon, so paragon may be allowed for trophy and points series races..?
just so everyone is clear....

may we put it on our tires outside during regular days?


No it will never be allowed !

lol, comon brayden get it together it hobby sports lol

I'll try

So on-road racing wont start until September?

Also, anyone interested in doing Trinity's T-spec class?
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGVU6&P=ML

Jerrit

Thanx to all that came down to race in Fort Wayne, hope you had a great time. I had fun racing with you guys. It is getting alittle late in the season for some of our regulars. But, we did have a nice turn out because you guys showed up. I'll try to make it up to Kalamazoo, and GR in the near future. Someone tell Terri Rott, Karl from the Fort said Hi, next time you see him.
I used to live in Grand Rapids in the early 1990's and raced with him then.

Also, we are still going to run carpet indoor for the next three weeks for sure, then we begin our outdoor season. So, come on down.

Karl :thumbsup:

So on-road racing wont start until September?

Also, anyone interested in doing Trinity's T-spec class?
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGVU6&P=ML

Jerrit

officially the first race is sept, but the track will open way before that...


That would be a very competitive class, even the field out...

hmm, good find J

Thanx to all that came down to race in Fort Wayne, hope you had a great time. I had fun racing with you guys. It is getting alittle late in the season for some of our regulars. But, we did have a nice turn out because you guys showed up. I'll try to make it up to Kalamazoo, and GR in the near future. Someone tell Terri Rott, Karl from the Fort said Hi, next time you see him.
I used to live in Grand Rapids in the early 1990's and raced with him then.

Also, we are still going to run carpet indoor for the next three weeks for sure, then we begin our outdoor season. So, come on down.

Karl :thumbsup:


Thanks Karl we all had a great time thanks. We may be back in a few weeks.

Jon

Hey,
Just to give my 2cts here.

We had Ozite carpet in GR this winter, and I am usually running stadium truck. I can tell you that with this Ozite carpet, you barely need to dope your tires. I doped mine ONCE a night, only the rear, and I was all set. There is so much traction that there isn't that many difference in lap time b/w rubber & foam... I know there was a lot of people that didn't use traction compound at all...

If you guys want to get some of the people that are already racing on carpet, I believe you should allow the Paragon traction compund. But that is your choice...
For me, it's like saying you don't want to allow yellow rims because they can scratch the borders and leave a mark... that is a lot of constraint for the people that want to race...

If the smell is a problem, why don't you designate a "smell free" area in the pit, you know like a smoking / non-smoking in a restaurant...

just my 2 cts...
Mike Champ

or better yet why dont you take a poll on weather or not it would effect peoples decision to race there or not? and then of course you know what to do then :)

Paragon definately stays in your clothes,car,house. My wife hates the smell of my clothes on wash day.

Paragon definately stays in your clothes,car,house. My wife hates the smell of my clothes on wash day.well you should change you clothes more than 1 time a week :drunk:

"Ouch"! :freak:

Actually, I too am a big fan of Paragon. Even at the largest indoor race in the world (the US Cleveland Indoor Champs) most everybody uses Paragon. Last year there was over 450 entries, and the race lasts for 5 days. It's a yearly ritual that's been going on now for 25 years! Everybody stays inside the Holiday Inn, pits out of their rooms, and races inside the ballroom. That race wouldn't be the same without the aroma of wintergreen.

I think the Snowbirds is larger with 800+ enteries ;) But they also allow the use of Paragon.

Yep, you're correct!

So is the carpet in? Are you running some road course racing?

No, the carpet isn't in yet. But from what I gather, it won't be too long.

Will you be running carpet during the Summer?

Hi,

I agree. you should allow Paragon. on the off weekends we're not Karting (that smells way worse than Paragon) we will be racing indoors. and going where we can run Paragon as that's what we run at the bigger races.

Thanks

Yep, you're correct!


Oh look my buddy !

Cant you guys just say thanks for switching and having a Indoor carpet track that you can race at week after week and not worry about it moving every year. Paragon is over rated. I have been useing Niftech and it works just fine and with ozite carpet you dont even need to use anything their is so much traction. Paragon will never be used at our track we will all feel better in the long run.

So when will the track be ready for some racing?

Oh look my buddy !
Huh?? Ya lost me with that one!

Niftech, Paragon? Who Cares I'm Just Glad We Are Going To Have A Carpet Track To Race On This Fall And Winter....summer=dirt Racing, Winter=carpet Thats The Way It Should Be. Peace And Harmony At Hobby Sports Haha

Thanks BU1seabee thats what im talkin about.

jonhobbies......... check your PM's

Cant you guys just say thanks for switching and having a Indoor carpet track that you can race at week after week and not worry about it moving every year. Paragon is over rated. I have been useing Niftech and it works just fine and with ozite carpet you dont even need to use anything their is so much traction. Paragon will never be used at our track we will all feel better in the long run.

That is right, at least for stadium truck. I used to dope my rear tires only and only once a night ! And it worked fine I guess...

See you on raining weekends for some summer carpet races !
Mike

Hey Mr Warner, how are you doing ?
Long time no see. Hope I'll catch you sometimes in GR...

Or any dirt racing planned at WOOR ?
We have a 4wd electric class that is growing there. I am having a blast racing my Yokomo there. Come and see us sometimes if you have a chance !
This Weekend is supposed to be nice...

Mike CHAMP (aka Frenchy)

Well, hey right back at you Mr. Champrenault!!! I'm sure you'll catch up with me somewhere sometime soon. I was actually thinking of swinging up to West Olive maybe in the next couple of weeks to visit with everyone and watch some racing.