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zig
06-16-2006, 06:34 AM
I'll bet it was an Aurora Indianapolis Racer...
Zig

zig
06-16-2006, 06:41 AM
It also looks to be legal for Dayton's Bullet Sprint class...
http://www.daytonslots.com/sprints.htm

Is this club still racing ? Would there be any interest in an updated Dayton Style resin body ?

Zig

Dunk2011
07-02-2006, 04:04 PM
Zig are you still making the resin one peice sprint car bodies that fit the racing champions wing and go on a standart t-jet chassis if you are can you sell some bodies to me or sell me a mold to make them how much would a body or mold cost. and can you leave some contact info. Thanks Dan

zig
07-03-2006, 11:11 PM
Hi Dan,

http://www.geocities.com/gregzickafoose/JLsprints1.jpg

Still have the mold for these but it's seen better days... However also have been playing around with an updated version.

Zig

Dunk2011
08-16-2006, 03:18 PM
Did you finish the new resin cars yet?

zig
08-17-2006, 06:44 AM
Hi Dan,
Not yet... Got a bit carried away doing two versions to see what one I like best.
The original one was made for a t-jet first and had to work out bugs for them to fit JLTO's this time I'm making sure they will fit both chassis,the body post positioning is a little different between the two!
ZIG

zig
08-17-2006, 11:15 PM
If some of you guys are wondering what were talking about...
Here's some pictures of my original JLTO Winged Sprint Bodies.

http://www.geocities.com/gregzickafoose/JLsprints1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/gregzickafoose/JLsprints2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/gregzickafoose/JLSprints0.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/gregzickafoose/Jlsprints3.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/gregzickafoose/jlws000.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/gregzickafoose/jlws001.jpg

The body was made to fit a t-jet first... we decided to run the JLTO chassis as a spec class with original rubber tires to keep them competative...
Well, the first thing we figured out was that they were real easy to deslot or flip over, with all that weight up high from the wings. so we added brass washers to the front wheels to make them driveable.

As far as the body it's self, the first thing I figured out was that the hood and cockpit area fit to tightly around the top gearplate and the rear body post can interfere with the gearplate and gears when mounted on a JL chassis, instead of a t-jet.

The revised version will fit both chassis loose enough to allow enough clearance for the body to wiggle around a bit to help handle the wing weight better.

Some of the guy's asked for the tail to be a bit bigger so I've come up with one that is a bit wider, lower, and I think much better looking!

The old body didn't look complete with no sides on it so I added side panels and headers...

The slightly bigger and lower tail and side panels will add a little weight to the body, but because of where the added weight is it will lower the center of gravity and should improve the handling a lot!

I'll have pictures of the new one "ones" soon...

Dunk2011
10-21-2006, 12:58 PM
are the new ones done yet? and have you heard anything about the wing testing for the 410 sprint cars?

Dunk2011
11-25-2006, 09:21 PM
zig are the new resin ho sprint cars done yet???

Dunk2011
02-19-2007, 05:58 PM
they done yt?

Pete McKay
02-19-2007, 09:04 PM
Zig, (hopefully you're still around) your cars are amazing. I like the way that you put forth your thought process and how logically you developed this project. The cars shown in page one of this string are outstanding and show great proportion for a contemporary sprinted adapted to a slot car. My own car was designed for Magna-Traction cars only based on how Outlaw cars looked in 1984, and haven't been updated. It shows what's necessary for successful vacuforming.

Bravo.

zig
02-25-2007, 11:52 AM
I have gotten them back out and have done a little track testing and stuff like that...
I'll get some pictures.

zig
02-25-2007, 12:43 PM
Thanks Pete,
H.O. chassis in general are not the easiest thing to fit a sprint car body on.
Almost all of them were made to fit full fendered bodies,and as everybody knows a sprint car is real narrow... I just try to make them look as much like a real car as possible.

Got any pictues of your Sprint Cars?

Zig


Zig, (hopefully you're still around) your cars are amazing. I like the way that you put forth your thought process and how logically you developed this project. The cars shown in page one of this string are outstanding and show great proportion for a contemporary sprinted adapted to a slot car. My own car was designed for Magna-Traction cars only based on how Outlaw cars looked in 1984, and haven't been updated. It shows what's necessary for successful vacuforming.

Bravo.

zig
02-25-2007, 12:53 PM
This message was posted on Yahoo Groups, HO Sprint Car Racing.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hosprintcarracing_group/

Hope it's OK to share with the Sprint Car Fans at Hobby Talk...
Zig
.................................................. ..................................



Hello Race Fans,

I'd like to ask all of the members of this group to contact SPEED TV
and encourage them to include more video clips of the USAC/CRA
Sprint Cars to their Speed Report Program.

As most of you know, Speed Report dedicates a segment of their
program to non-NASCAR racing. Over the past year or so, the time
allowed for Sprint Cars (both Winged and Non-Wing) has decreased.

Raceway Video's Jeff Kristensen, who records the USAC/CRA events,
has clips ready to air after every race. In addition to the TV
Clips, he shares weekly clips (for free) on his website-
www.racewayvideo.com. However, the producers of Speed Report
generally choose not to air Sprint Cars unless they need to fill
time.

Any clips aired on programs such as Speed Report, or the Sunshine
Network's RaceScene (which is now cancelled) are a great way to
promote USAC/CRA- it's drivers, teams, tracks, sponsors, and events.

Since the TV coverage is not as hoped, USAC has chosen not to renew
Raceway Video's deal with USAC/CRA. Now, events like Garrett
Hansen's first win at Perris, your favorite driver's victory, and
great charges to the front are in danger of not being recorded or
available for purchase.

So, I'm asking for help to promote the sport we love by contacting
SPEED TV and in the process helping a friend who has done a lot for
Sprint Car Racing.

Let your voice be heard. Those in charge of programming need to
listen to their subscribers and fan base.

SPEED TV's Feedback Page is at http://www.speedtv.com/feedback/.
Just fill out the online form and click submit.

If anyone knows of an email address to contact, please let us know.

Thanks,

Lance Jennings - SCRAFAN.COM - lance@scrafan.com

__________________________________________________ ________________

Hey folks,

Just an FYI...This is also adversely affecting the USAC National
Divisions, the World of Outlaws, the All-Stars, the ASCS, and every
single other division of sprint car racing in the country as well.
The powers-that-be at "The SPEED Report" have informed us that
coverage of 2007 sprint car events will be sparse at best, and I
recommend everyone who has a computer, and is a fan of sprint,
midget and silver crown racing to let their voice be heard. It's
unfortunate, but sprint and midget car racing is getting pushed
aside by the 800 lb. gorilla known as NASCAR. The only thing we as
fans of this sport can do is plead with them to change their minds.

So, please, by all means, follow the steps that Lance Jennings has
laid out above. Please help us to bring you the highlights of the
United States Auto Club premiere divisions....Thank you. Sincerely,

Dean Mills
Mills Video Productions
Official Videographer of USAC
WWW.MILLSVIDEOPRODUCTIONS.COM

Pete McKay
02-25-2007, 02:26 PM
Zig, my molds are all handbuilt from sheet plastic, I haven't gotten into the art of resin casting yet.

Here's my outlaw sprinter, midget, super mod and generic sports car molds:

http://home.earthlink.net/~amg_racing/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/mvc-215s.jpg

A finished sprinter looks like this:

http://home.earthlink.net/~amg_racing/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/mvc-604s.jpg

As you can see they're very 1980's based in design. I plan on using the midget's style exhaust made from thick solder and tube plastic, and bringing the hood up to your more contemporary standard. Right now I have a step on the fuel tank that will be removed and have nerf bars molded in, again using thick solder. They won't be as crisp as yours are but they should be passable for the local guys. There's just noting like what you have that I've seen available. I'm still not sure if I'll use the modled in front wing like you have, we have both winged and non-wing racing out here and I hate to limit myself to just once curcuit.

Right now the most requested item is my DIRT Late Model used by HORSA, in April the body will be available to non-HOSRA members and I've already got another group placing so many advanced orders I may make a second more aerodynamically advanced version.

http://home.earthlink.net/~amg_racing/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/mvc-615s.jpg

zig
02-25-2007, 08:15 PM
Looking Good... I Like how you used the AF/X body mount to hold your bodies on.

My 440x2 body is the only one that has the nose wing molded in,"Yet"
My t-jet body was made with or without nose wing mounts,by using 2 different molds.
.................................................. .................................................. ....
[QUOTE=Pete McKay]Zig, my molds are all handbuilt from sheet plastic, I haven't gotten into the art of resin casting yet.

A finished sprinter looks like this:

http://home.earthlink.net/~amg_racing/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/mvc-604s.jpg

As you can see they're very 1980's based in design. I plan on using the midget's style exhaust made from thick solder and tube plastic, and bringing the hood up to your more contemporary standard. Right now I have a step on the fuel tank that will be removed and have nerf bars molded in, again using thick solder. They won't be as crisp as yours are but they should be passable for the local guys. There's just noting like what you have that I've seen available. I'm still not sure if I'll use the modled in front wing like you have, we have both winged and non-wing racing out here and I hate to limit myself to just once curcuit.

zig
02-27-2007, 10:58 PM
As for the Lifelike Sprints, I was like a kid in a candy store when they were released, the first set that I bought was opened before my wife and I left the store parking lot!
Then I pulled the cars out of the set and thought "Why... did they make them SO BIG?"

They look odd because the bodies are 1/50th scale, and the chassis are 1/64th scale.
I have one of them all cut up and and about ready to re-assemble the pieces into something more like 1/60th to 1/64th scale,for resin casting.
Zig

I got it back together... still needs some filling, filing, sanding ect. before casting the mold.

The original car behind shows how much extra bodywork was removed :thumbsup:

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/511/medium/ZigRR_1.jpg
ZIG

zig
03-26-2007, 06:07 PM
they done yt?

Still not done yet but here are some spy photos...
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/511/medium/JL2_2.jpg

The two versions of JLTO 2 after some minimal track testing...
This version is closest to being complete, Remember that the Original JLTO Sprint uses wings from a 1/64th scale diecast car... I had to try to make the new one with more details, add a few ellements that the guys racing them asked for but not change it so much the older ones were obsolete.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/511/medium/JL2_3.jpg

I got started primering this one because I wasn't sure if I really liked it or not??? Since we are using Racing Champions diecast cars for the wing donors,I tried to put a little more of the diecast cars looks into it... still don't know :confused:

However you get the idea of how the tail driver and rollcage might look.
ZIG

zig
03-26-2007, 06:12 PM
JLTO 2 will probably look more like this one.
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/511/medium/JL2_00.jpg

ZIG

zig
07-25-2007, 06:36 AM
Or Maybe not...

Pete McKay
07-25-2007, 04:31 PM
ROFL!!! Talk about a dramatic pause....

Zig, PM me your addy and I'll send you some samples of my TJ Late Model once I get it finished. I'll be drawing test pop's tomorrow.

zig
07-28-2007, 11:39 PM
ROFL!!! Talk about a dramatic pause....

Zig, PM me your addy and I'll send you some samples of my TJ Late Model once I get it finished. I'll be drawing test pop's tomorrow.

OK :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

zig
07-31-2007, 09:51 PM
One of my favorite old bodies was the Lancer Sprint Car...

The only thing I didn't like about it, was that you had to cut them down to nothing to fit them to the chassis.

What If... it had a hotrod front end and would fit the front of the chassis :wave:

Here's a spy photo of the first prototype, it's .015" lexan, the headers and driver are formed into the body, his cranium is resin cast.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/511/medium/HotRod_Sprint.jpg

ZIG

WesJY
07-31-2007, 10:01 PM
One of my favorite old bodies was the Lancer Sprint Car...

The only thing I didn't like about it, was that you had to cut them down to nothing to fit them to the chassis.

What If... it had a hotrod front end and would fit the front of the chassis :wave:

Here's a spy photo of the first prototype, it's .015" lexan, the headers and driver are formed into the body, his cranium is resin cast.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/511/medium/HotRod_Sprint.jpg

ZIG

would be nice to have one that will fit on tyco narrow chassis or another magnet cars!!

Wes

zig
08-01-2007, 06:28 AM
would be nice to have one that will fit on tyco narrow chassis or another magnet cars!!

Wes

The lancer was t-jet era stuff, I don't know how an ald timer body would look on a magnet chassis with the smaller diameter wider tires? Hmmmm.....

ZIG

noddaz
08-01-2007, 06:59 AM
One of my favorite old bodies was the Lancer Sprint Car...

The only thing I didn't like about it, was that you had to cut them down to nothing to fit them to the chassis.

What If... it had a hotrod front end and would fit the front of the chassis :wave:

Here's a spy photo of the first prototype, it's .015" lexan, the headers and driver are formed into the body, his cranium is resin cast.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/511/medium/HotRod_Sprint.jpg

ZIG

Looks good!
I would have never thought that would turn out so nice on a TJet...

Scott

Bill Hall
08-01-2007, 07:00 AM
Dig it Zig!

I'd like a pair of those when your ready

Wouldnt the later chassis throw the proportions off anyhow?

I can see the T-jet with a drag pack and a 9 tooth setup. Short track insanity!

videojimmy
08-01-2007, 07:27 AM
there was a guy selling resin versions of that body on the bay. I havent seen them in a long time. His didn't have those pipes, he used the Aurora Modfied pipes as his model. I like the pipes on yours much more.

very, very nice!

zig
08-02-2007, 09:39 PM
Scott... Thanks,
It sits a bit higher than I intended, might try to slam it a bit more.
Like I said, the lancer sprint is one of my favorite bodies...
Also like the Lancer Sportsman body,but both of them require cutting away all of the body around the front of the chassis, leaving a skinny fragile hood and nose, that is hard to paint and detail.
And sticking way out there, just waiting to get CRUNCHED !!!

The nose is stubbed up a bit more than the original hot rod, the tail is just a bit smaller than the lancer, and the chassis is completely covered when viewed from above.

This should allow a little bit more room for painting and decals.

Bill H. Thanks,
A while back I did some research on a "True Scale" H.O. Sprint Car, and came to the conclusion that what we think of as HO or 1/64th scale sprint car is really closer to 1/60th such as a 15" wheel = .250" dia.
Smaller dia. tires and wheels would make it look more like a midget 13" wheel = .216 dia.

Wider rear tires would be ok if your going to build a late 60's version.
USAC made rollcages or " Sissy Bars " mandatory in the sprint division at the beginning of the 1970 season due to a rash of fatal crashes in 69.
The wide oval tire had all ready made the old narrow knobby tire obsolete, and small block chevy's were killing off the offys.

Jimmy... Thanks,
I think those were Alpha Slots cars... I don't know for sure but they may have had some Dash supermodified parts on them?
The headers are from an old toy car, thought they looked more like 60's era headers than the ones I use on more modern cars... they may need to be shortened a bit for tire clearance.

ZIG
P.S. A resin version... Hmmm :wave:

vaBcHRog
08-03-2007, 11:40 AM
I have a driver that would look correct for a midget version with the smaller tires.

Also if you do a resin version you should be able to drop the driver down some

Roger Corrie

zig
08-22-2007, 08:26 PM
The Aurora Slimline Chassis still looks the most like a sprint car...
I've been messing around with some of my old slimline sprint resin molds and came up with a couple of lexan versions, the first one is a Matchbox style body.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/511/medium/MB11_1.jpg

The matchbox car was modeled after the Gambler and Stanton cars of the late 80's and early 90's here's the slot car running down the diecast car it was modeled after... Steve Kinser's Maxim #11 circa 1992 :thumbsup:

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/511/medium/MB11_2.jpg

ZIG