View Full Version : Should ENT be forgotten?


Warped9
02-24-2005, 08:59 PM
Now that it's in the can and done, and considering all the acrimony it raised, should ENT be quietly forgotten as a mistake and lets move on from there?

In other words should any future Trek project(s) worry about contradicting what this altered timeline supposedly established?

I think so. And that includes any potential novels that may yet be written. From the beginning Berman and company saw fit not to even put the Star Trek tag onto the opening credits for the first two seasons. They only reversed that practice in a desperate bid to draw viewers. And then failing that they later brought in Manny Coto to somewhat appease critics of Berman and try to desperately tie the show into TOS by dropping references all over the place.

But even after all that the vast majority of the general audience as well as a significant segement of the fanbase simply tuned out. The verdict was simple: the majority didn't accept it.

And so now the question stands: should ENT be quietly forgotten and no future Trek project need be constrained by it?

Oh, and I expect to likely be the minority on this. :lol:

X15-A2
02-24-2005, 09:14 PM
"Enterprise"? Never heard of it...

John O
02-24-2005, 09:24 PM
Enterprise? It is dead to me....

Lloyd Collins
02-24-2005, 11:08 PM
Didn't Enterprise come after Voyager? I heard rumors that it was to take place before TOS, but I don't pay attention to rumors.

F91
02-25-2005, 12:03 AM
The idea that the other shows were "constrained" by the other shows? What else would Trekkers have to live for, if not to point out continuity problems?

ken072359
02-25-2005, 08:28 AM
Now that it's in the can and done, and considering all the acrimony it raised

Raising acrimony??, now who would do such a thing?? :confused:

PerfesserCoffee
02-25-2005, 09:24 AM
I say take a laxative and dump it!

F91
02-25-2005, 12:41 PM
Raising acrimony??, now who would do such a thing?? :confused:

Now that's just Warped!:lol:

Warped9
02-25-2005, 12:56 PM
Hmm. Interesting how acrimony and allimony are so similar. And equally interesting how allimony is so similar to "all o' money."

Curious.

El Gato
02-25-2005, 02:03 PM
I selected "Yes, definitely" only because you didn't have "Hell YES!!!" option.

José

Dave Hussey
02-25-2005, 02:25 PM
Warped, my learned colleague, sorry to deflate your balloon but I guess it falls to me to point out that there is no such word as "allimony". That is in fact a mis-spelling of alimony. Only one "L", not two.

Huzz

Donny Crane? Denny Crane! Big difference.

Old_McDonald
02-25-2005, 02:57 PM
I voted No. I still believe that many episodes were better than those of Voyager and if Voyager can survive, so should ENT. We got to see some pretty cool stuff such as updated Tholian ships, moving antenna on Orions, etc.

The show just needed some better writing and a little less time travel to suit me.
Time Travel is getting just a little too easy in the Trek Universe. Don't like somebody? just go kill his parents in the past

F91
02-25-2005, 03:08 PM
The episode from TOS where the midget rides on Kirks' back still counts.

Lloyd Collins
02-25-2005, 03:25 PM
So I guess that all you FANS will buy the DVDs.
I have better things to spend my money on, like bills!

F91
02-25-2005, 03:48 PM
Pills?

El Gato
02-25-2005, 04:34 PM
The episode from TOS where the midget rides on Kirks' back still counts.

No. IMO all copies of that episode (including all copies of Toni Basil's "Mickey" and all copies of dumb-a$$ attempts at cowboy rock and rock-opera) should be packed and sent to the sun on a silver rocketship and forever erased from human existence.

José

justinleighty
02-25-2005, 04:56 PM
^ But is the actual rocket ship silver, or is that just how it appears on screen? :p

SJF
02-25-2005, 05:07 PM
Can we pretend Voyager didn't happen as well? Just wondering. :p

Sean

http://www.mcfergesondvd.com/

Warped9
02-25-2005, 05:30 PM
Warped, my learned colleague, sorry to deflate your balloon but I guess it falls to me to point out that there is no such word as "allimony". That is in fact a mis-spelling of alimony. Only one "L", not two.

Huzz

Donny Crane? Denny Crane! Big difference.

Oops. My mistake. My humbllest and most grovelling apollogies. :D

F91
02-25-2005, 05:41 PM
Epiphany!!!- Let's face it, there are a lot of clunker Star Trek episodes. I nominate Warp9 to compile a list of all the Bad Trek episodes from every era, so we can vote on them too!

beeblebrox
02-26-2005, 07:53 AM
Turnabout Intruder. There's nothing scarier than starship captain with PMS. :freak: Voyager would have added a touch of realism if Janeway had threatened to execute her senior officers once a month. :thumbsup:

John P
02-26-2005, 08:54 AM
Can we pretend Voyager didn't happen as well? Just wondering. :p

Sean

http://www.mcfergesondvd.com/

Happily, Sean, happily!

The only thing I liked from the whole show was that speedboat shuttle.

Capt. Krik
02-26-2005, 03:21 PM
The only thing I liked from the whole show was that speedboat shuttle.

Well, I enjoyed the opening credits of the show.
:)
The opening for Voyager that is. Could never get past that lame theme song they used on Enterprise.

John P
02-26-2005, 06:39 PM
Honestly, I haven't liked a single Star Trek Tv series theme since the original. TNG's was just a direct steal from the pompous movie theme; DS9 and V'ger's were god-awful self-importantly boring; and Ent's is .... well, I'd rather listen to Kenny G and Yanni backing up Celine. [shudder].

El Gato
02-26-2005, 07:42 PM
Honestly, I haven't liked a single Star Trek Tv series theme since the original. TNG's was just a direct steal from the pompous movie theme; DS9 and V'ger's were god-awful self-importantly boring; and Ent's is .... well, I'd rather listen to Kenny G and Yanni backing up Celine. [shudder].

DS9's and Voyager's themes were, IMO, very classy. Whereas TOS' theme was assertive and triumphant, DS9 (seasons 1-3) and VOY had a subtle, exploratory feel to it. If the themes could talk, they'd say "I'm curious about what's out there".

I still prefer TOS, but DS9 and VOY's themes were well done.

José

beeblebrox
02-26-2005, 09:38 PM
TNG's sounded like a high school marching band. :o

MangoMan
02-26-2005, 09:41 PM
well, I'd rather listen to Kenny G and Yanni backing up Celine. [shudder].

With John Tesh singing harmony?? :freak:

MangoMan
02-26-2005, 09:42 PM
TNG's sounded like a high school marching band. :o

I played that tune in high school marching band! :eek:

John P
02-26-2005, 11:07 PM
With John Tesh singing harmony?? :freak:

I have to go wash out my brain now....

Arronax
02-27-2005, 10:59 AM
It's always been a trend in Star Trek to build on previous episodes. TNG did it, DS9 did and even Voyager had opportunities to do it out there in the Delta quadrant. Enterprise had the challenge of back engineering stories from 4 shows which, frankly they nearly succeeded in. True the writing wasn't that good but the universe they created wasn't too far from canon.

And if you want to start pointing out inconsistencies in the Trek timeline, I'm sure there are plenty to go around in all the other shows.

Jim