Who wants to be the Regional Champion? Here comes your chance. March 13, 2005, K&N presents the ROAR Regional Championship. For all of you who missed the Winterblast, this is your time to bring home some hardware. In any event, bring your A game and enjoy yourself. If you have any questions, call me 860-508-3815 or e-mail chad@knrcspeedway.com

this race should be moved up to the following week
NICK

Lets get this thread going.............. WHY MOVE IT ??? And please don't tell me for barre.

no its that endfield is saturday, and there are people going to barre that week end,
so instead of having less drivers show, it's best to move it to another week end.
At this point NO advertising has been done, so no ill will can come from a date change.
there are a lot of people that can not do 2 days and have already commited to the endfield race. just think it is in chad's best interest...

Just bustin beefy balls :devil:

i have a question.does chad have to pay any money to roar to run under their name and rules.i know we have to pay to be a member,and my point is THIS wouldnt alittle help from roar and maybe some advertiseing by them to PROMOTE their region 1 championship.they should want a big turnout and i dont wanna hear its on the roar calender.they SHOULD be helping chad with this one after all were supporting them with our membership payment.i think if your a member and its a championship race roar should do something to get you to k/n on sunday.i may be out of line since i have to work alot of weekends and cant make many races but i try to stop in and support chad.it just seems like the only help in advertising a race is on here.John

www.fusionbatteries.com

We just had the ROAR State Championship race at K&N this past weekend, the turnout was to say the least, terrible. I don't believe having another ROAR race 2 weekends later, especially when two other tracks are running the same weekend would draw any more racers, it will most likely hurt it. Moving the regional race out a week would put a little bit of time between two santioned races and would allow for a possible better turnout. I support K&N the best I can, but I also like to support the others in the area also, so when the time arises I like to do my part. I'd love to be able to attend both, but I don't see it happening. So now which do I choose? It would be better to not have to make a choice.

Jmracing, you are wrong. It is up to the track owner to promote the race, as a track owner, chad also pays a membership to roar to be affillate with them and there rules.
besides, our regional rep DOES do some advertising for his region, on many other chat forums besides this one.
NICK

nick my point was i recieved an e-mail about an upcoming onroad race soon in this area but with 2 roar oval races coming up i didnt receive any.yeah chad should work on promoting but if we can see all the problems with the races to close together why couldnt the roar rep look at what all the tracks were doing and maybe advise chad when to run this race changing the date if he had to.nick in the last rev-up we received did you see any decent promotion about this race in it i didnt,i didnt even see k/n in the track listing .

hi nick :wave:

good point john, Im sure chad knew about the madness race, has he posted about it
and also just ran there last week end...here is the sad part, barre will have 50 to 70 guys, how many will be at K&N...

:thumbsup: i think over the summer all the tracks should try to schedule 1 trophy race every 3 weeks between them not every weekend starting in the fall i think the turnout and competition would grow .I dont know about most guys but trying to pay for a trophy race every weekend gets expensive,plus these races lose a bit of prestiege in my opinion when the turnouts are low.but for the spring i geuss we can just make a push to get the best racing we can .

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TO ALL: I am moving the race back a week (3/13/05) to help everyone out. I hope the turnout reflects this move.Bill is right, the last race was a light turnout. I do my best to keep everyone in the loop as to up coming events, at K&N as well as other places. Here is a question I pose to the racers. What can I do @ K&N to attract racers? here is the sad part, barre will have 50 to 70 guys, how many will be at K&N...(PUF19) Is this due to the date, the location,the race director or what? The Winterblast had a light turnout I believe mostly due to the weather and some comments made before hand, more on that later. I'm just trying to get a grip on it, because I do pour my heart and soul into it. If it is me, I'd like to know. I want to provide the best race venue I can, so please tell me so I know. I'll do what I can to make the nessesary changes. Please post on here or contact me via e-mail or phone, information is listed at the bottom.
Other info: If at anytime you have a problem with anything to do with the track, hobbyshop, or others who you may race with. Please contact me about it. I am always availible at the track, pull me aside to discuss the problem, I will do my best to help find the best resolution. If the problem happens at another track, or on the web, please let me know. This way the problem does not spill over into your racing experience at K&N. Example: On some other threads, threats have been made that if you race against certain individuals, you may be put into the wall. NOT AT K&N! Part of my job is to make sure that everyone has an enjoyable time racing. RC racing is a fun family activity, if you are going to bring a negative additude to the track, I ask that you stay home. Nobody wants to go racing with it in the back of their minds knowing that someone is going to intentionally wreck their car. I know I don't. If you do patronize the track with these intentions, you will be asked to leave and suspended for the rest of the season. Some tracks have seen attendance suffer due to people talking about wrecking others. I believe the Winterblast suffered because of this. We can all learn to play nice. This is a competitive hobby, but there is a line that needs to be drawn. So let's work together and go racin'.

Thank you,

Chad Sewell
K/N RC Speedway
chad@knrcspeedway.com
860-508-3815

Glad to here the race has been moved, get some race flyers made so the guys going to barre can pass them out chad. I will contact the region director (Chris Raffaelli)
see if he can do a mass email to the roar members to try to get the # up.
NICK

I'm pretty sure everyone that frequents K&N knows that you are trying everything you can think of to get things to turn around. If we all throw in our ideas I'm sure we can come up with a couple things to help improve the turnouts and keep things moving forward.
New blood into the hobby is something that definetly needs to be addressed. Without new people coming in the is no turnover, people will come and go, just need to have new coming in when someone goes out. Entry level classes need to be generated, can't expect a new racer to be able to compete with someone who has done this for 10 - 20 years.
With that said, you need to have the product in the hobby shop to sell to the new racer and seasoned racer alike, you can't sell what you don't have. R/Cers buy what they see, and they want it now. You can't have everything new, but you at least need to have a small sample of what's available and being used at the track.
In this hobby the racers alone are not going to spend enough to keep the doors open, the business is a hobby shop that happens to have a track, not the other way around.
I know down deep Chad, you are a racer, but I believe firmly you can't be a racer and the track owner too. Since K&N was first sold by Karen and Nick others have tried and we've seen the results.
Just my thoughts, anyone else? I love racing at K&N and don't want to see it disappear, thanks Chad for all your efforts, lets turn this around to be the K&N of old. Thanks, Bill B

Bill B. hit the nail on the head,spec class and legends at marshalls is a big success and part of his racing.Bill told me this morning at the track the 78% of his weekly racing are cost control classes like those.

now that date makes it possible for me to go.thanks for the move chad hope it pays off.

John Marsh
www.fusionbatteries.com

Chad...You run a 1st class program...I only wished I lived closer..................Looking forward to the event....What time does the track open...1st heat start?

That week end is plattsburgh big race.it most likey will not hurt K/N .But I made planes to go to plattsburgh. but it was a good move to change date. but I was going to k/n sunday. but o well.you can't make them all.
I hope you get a lot of racers. It's a fun track to race at.
good luck Chad wish you the best.

Well Bojo, now you can come to barre and have some fun this weekend. We've missed you. Hope to see yo there, that's where everyone else will be

Bob T

Rob when will you,chris walsh your son and the rest of the guys come down to race at k/n?

That is true bob, we have not seen you guy's up K&N in a long time, come on up for the regional we are trying for a big showing
NICK

Sorry guys we already committed to the Plattsburg race on the same weekend but, we will try to make it down in the near future.

Bob T

chad i had someone mention to me you should have hot lap qualifying.that would put the guys in heats with other racers that are close to their level.maybe have 3 laps to see what they have and put the heats together after that.i think you would have less wrecks and guys couldnt complain their in with guys that dont belong with them.i think it wouldnt take that much time to do it as long as its announced ahead of time.i think this might help out of towners who dont run on banked tracks like this that often. .any thoughts from other guys on this?Chad what classes are being run?and how much ?stock handout motors??

Hey troublemaker :) .I'd say 90% of the people that will come to this race will be locals and have there skill level already entered on the computer (1-10) the rest i'm sure can be figured out without hot laps.Hot laps might work at the blast in the larger classes but alot of those racers are also rated in the computer from previous races.I personally don't like hot laps i've seen people overgear to run some faster laps only to be in the way in the qualifier.J.M.O.

hey bat,Bob P ran that by me and hasnt been on here so he asked me to throw it out and get a response.i didnt think of the overgearing part thanks for the quick answer mark.troublemaker

John Marsh
www.fusionbatteries.com

thy did it in fairfield Maine . and i like the idea .just my 2 cents

Most of the racers that go to maine are not locals.

thats true

I kind of Like the idea of hot laps.................just my 2 cents

Hey Guys,

There was a spec class, remember SK Modified. All of those people fell off. Where did they go? The Sk crowd at Madness will not come back for weekly racing due to the incident w/ the prior owners. I tried to bring them back, but for some reason they will not come back. I know the hobby shop is lacking right now. Bill, you are right to an entent, the hobby shop brings in some income, but that money goes back into reordering, the racers help to knock off the utilities. So when there is a lack of racers, the money has to come from somewhere, so the walls suffer. It is a balance between them which is missing.

Chad

Doors open @ 7
Racing @ 12

We don't neccesarily need a spec class, we need an entry level class that someone new can learn the hobby, then can move up to something with more speed and adjustability. It's too bad the guys that couldn't get along with previous management won't make an attempt to see that things are different. We need to find a way to get some new blood interested in the hobby. Maybe some of us regulars need to start to run something just to get it started. Whatever it takes to get things back on track. (No pun intended.)

Your theory is good however what would also help is for some of the hotshots to
take a little time instead of bench racing and help out some of the newer..slower guys.......New people getting into the hobby kind of get discouraged of getting lapped
4-5 times....This would Also help I think.....Guys would get a liitle more excited about doing better....may start purchasing better equipment from the track...show up more often......alot of guys bring up good points....but this is an important part to bringing in more of a crowd........You cant say you want a new group to come in and help support the track and not be willing to help these guys out...........

I don't see why 4 cell stock can't be a beginner class.You can run any chassis you need nothing special just ask clayton jennings still running a 10l2 competitively.2 packs of 3300's to practice and race with,blue and green tires that last forever with a 20.00 handout motor.If you wan't just put the newbies in separate heat and call it the busch class or whatever and when your ready to move up just upgrade your chassis a bit and add a couple more packs.You just don't need all these classes thats why i didn't race at marshalls they had about 100 people running 13 different classes all this does is dilute the heats so you run with nobody.

Amen Bat
We do that at Classic
We have Novice for the first time racers and younger kids (45 Laps and below), then they work their way to Busch (about 46-50 laps) then once they hit 51 automatic moveup to stock (51-54 laps). All classes use the same equipment except Busch uses spec tires. But motor and battery are all the same.

I hear you might be coming over to Akron for the nats? True?
Hope to see you there.

Eric H.

Working on coming back eric.It seems something always comes up last minute.I told frank i was coming to the hangover but ended up with pneumonia.:eek:

Your theory is good however what would also help is for some of the hotshots to
take a little time instead of bench racing and help out some of the newer..slower guys.......New people getting into the hobby kind of get discouraged of getting lapped
4-5 times....

I have to tend to agree, but disagree at the same time. From "MY" personal experience, I've seen to many people ask for set-ups, ask for rollouts, and hell, have a certain "somebody" take their car for a whole week to get rebuilt, refreshened, set-up, whatever you want to call it. Only to run that particular persons fastest personal best time, then get torn back apart to the same way it was to begin with. That same particular "somebody" has also gone to the extent of even driving the car, setting the radio to where he would set-it, and it still doesn't help because either,:A...that person drives totally different. OR..:B..They figure they can get it better than he did, or it lacks something else, so they mess with it, and totally dial it back out.........
Many of you know me, and know who I'm talking about. And you've seen what I've accomplished in the 8 Months I've been back WITH help. BUT, many of you also think I'm helped more than I really am. The point is, If you want help, you don't only have to ask questions, but actually listen to the freaken fastest person at the track, and stick with it, and better yourself rather than tear it apart, and waste his and your time. He can only do so much for you, other than drive the car himself...............

Bill Johnson
BAT MOTORSPORTS

Bill are you eatin pixie sticks. Getting all worked up and preaching to the choir.HaHa....
The trick to K/N and any other track is chassis..chassis..chassis...before spending countless dollars on new gimmicks/flavor of the month racers should get a handle on what they have rather then what they should have to go fast. Bat brings a good point with Clayton. He just works on his stuff and rips.
Maybe once a month Chad could have a question and answer session for racers to pick the brains of the "Fast" guys. From my experience there are alot of knowledgable people who will help out anyone at the track. Just my two cents.

Lawman

Not preaching Scottie, Worked up,,,yes. It erks me (Not just Bud3738), but everyone who complains about being slow, getting lapped etc. MOST of them are people who actually ask the questions, do whatever, and are still not up to speed, like it's supposed to happen like turning on a light switch. They are also mostly people who don't "actually" want to do the work, don't frequent the track, and just wanna have fun. That's not a bad thing, after all, it is a hobby, but in the same sentence, don't complain. You gotta put in the time. As many nights I stayed late in the summer, and the vacation Bat took to Florida, I bet I'm only lacking 100 laps worth of track time from the summer than he ran. I've only been back 8 Months and 3 weeks ago I ran 59..4:03's back to back, (I've been playing with a different car ever since). I guess time and Chassis work is paying off. You can't just order BAT in a box online, then be fast next weekend.......... :thumbsup:,,,,,,Crap, ran out of Pixy Sticks....... :freak:

good point erock1331 and bat,maybe chad should set up a busch class along with 19T and stock and when a person hits a certain amount of laps he can move up.Busch could be 46 laps and under or something like that.i was thinking even if chad set up 1 glass case for new racers and other guys could donate practice packs and maybe decent motors that might otherwise collect dust,maybe tires that are chunked alittle.some guys throw aways are others treasures.Imagine starting out and being abale to grab 2-3 batts and maybe a motor or 2 for free that would save the beginner a nice amount of money and leave them feeling good about the track and sport.my 11 yr old wants to start and i think a novice or busch class would be great when they wreck they wont have guys screaming and swearing at them because they'll all be in the same boat.John

we've gotten advice and help from the bat,pedone,teddy,charlie,chad,lambert,and so on and so on.and as long as you listen and practice it seems to always pay off .bills right you cant order a bat in a box.thats only available in never never land.

Hey jmracing are you coming to madness saturday ? Should be fun. MZ

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Points well taken Bill. Its not an easy hobby to get involved in. I know when I went 59 at the Blast it happend from the help of alot of people. As Bat can attest, when I started racing again last March I wasn't exactly setting the world on fire. With patience and practice though I feel that I can now run competitive anywhere with my one chassis, seven battery packs, and four motors. Again just my two cents.

Lawman

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Your shot Brother, you should get yourself checked out.............

Just havin a little fun Bill.
You start reading some of the posts on other threads about people taking each other out intentionally or people cheating or this or that and you lose perspective of why people are into this hobby which should be because its fun.
Although there are a minority of racers who make a living at this, it is up to us as the majority of weekend warriors to make this hobby fun and to do everything we can to attract new racers. With low attendance race tracks will not be able to continue to stay in business therefore we must support the local tracks/hobby shops. :thumbsup:

Lawman

Hear ya there. That's another thing the bugs me, and I wish the questions that Chad asked on the thread would get answered, but I want to know why another track holds a race, alot of people I know and know of "travels" there at the drop of a hat. But, there is no "vice versa". I know some of it is schedule conflicts and other commitments, but come on, every time? I know some of the best times I have racing, are mostly racing and Hacking around with Chad. Funny thing is, I never race Chad at his OWN track. It's always at a different track, that HE is supporting, Go figure....:drunk:

LAWMAN are6 of those packs are BIG SEXY's ;0)

He got ya, but aren't 3 of those motors, and everything but the pod plates his too????? :hat: