As per Hank's suggestion, a new year and a new thread! Here's to great racing in 2005!

Lets get it on.

Lets get it on.
:confused: now everyone, slowly BACK away from Karl.

:confused: now everyone, slowly BACK away from Karl.


Easy Sean, don't panic, you're all right.
You know what I meant. If not, I'll see you on Sunday and explain it to you.

See Ya,
Karl :thumbsup:

:confused: now everyone, slowly BACK away from Karl.


Amen Brother!!! :freak:

:confused: now everyone, slowly BACK away from Karl.
It wouldn't be polite to laugh in his face.

-Jason

Sean I see you.

Karl

Man, you guys just jump on the carcass like hyenas don't you?

Who is running what this Sunday?

Who will be running TC? Nippus said he would be back out with his TC3 now that football season is over. Well, at least for the Bears it is.

I will run 12 stock. Scott, bring your "A" game, we can't finish behind the kids anymore this year.

-Sean

It wouldn't be polite to laugh in his face.

-Jason
thats ok, HA HA HA HA. What ever you do just don't turn your back.

this is nonsense Karl is a good guy that would help any one at the track, and I think he is a great racer as well. So what if you " you meaning any one that dosent like karl " do not like him, a lot of guys do. So keep your comments to your self and don't worry about it.....

seth

Sean,

I will be there Sunday and will be running 12th or F1. I am not to sure if I will run TC any more this year, the plan was to get a jrx-s when they come out, but I bought the L4 so all my $ was spent on that. Maybe next year I will be back in TC.

seth

this is nonsense Karl is a good guy
This is true, however...
Lets get it on.
...when Karl starts in with the Marvin Gaye, Chris is right;
What ever you do just don't turn your back
If anyone can take a ribbing, it is Karl. Just don't ask him to sing along with his pit stereo.

Seth, I no longer own a touring car. I just know a lot of guys that have them as their primary ride and haven't been showing up to race.

It is all 12th scale for me now, until you guys stop running it. F1 is a Tuesday night drinking excuse, sorry about your Mexification problem preventing you from running on Beerdays -err, I mean Tuesdays.

I am sure there will be plenty of guys wanting to use Sunday to get a headstart with the layout for Tuesday nights.

-Sean

What!!!! no one likes Karl Seth are you kidding me??? please reread all above posts we were only poking fun at Karl it is Not that bad at all. remember if we didn't like someone we would not talk about him all....

Tracey

What!!!! no one likes Karl Seth are you kidding me??? please reread all above posts we were only poking fun at Karl it is Not that bad at all. remember if we didn't like someone we would not talk about him all....
Tracey
Actually, we don't discriminate with anyone. We equally make fun of the popular and the unpopular alike. It is the democratic way. We don't have to like someone to make fun of them. Heck, we don't even have to know them.

For instance, we don't like you Tracey and we still talk to you and make fun of you don't we? Hey, why does my tab at the hobby shop keep going up and I haven't bought anything new? Tracey?.. Tracey? I was just kidding, really I was...

-Sean

I under stand all about ribbing. I just wanted to stand up for my friend, just like I would for any of you guys. Not that karl needed my help. I am not mad or angry at any one and the only reason I said any thing was due to some extra flack that karl was takeing and I just wanted to slow it down a bit, thats all.

next subject.

I need to race bad!! This sunday it is on..

seth

Karl is my teammate and I'm just teasing him. I hope he knows that.

Toyota Launch (http://www.formula1.com/news/2523.html)

...and so it begins...

Commish

Has the opening on the Williams BMW team been filled yet? If not I am interested in moving. If possible this Tuesday.

Chris

Tonight is the first round of the Spring 2005 Summit F1 points series. Good luck.
Commish,
Has the opening on the Williams BMW team been filled yet? If not I am interested in moving. If possible this Tuesday.
Chris
Unfortuately, I have been given no official information as to the status of that seat. Currently it is still occupied by Brad Mergy. If contract negotiations have begun please let me know via Private Messages.

Sincerely,
Vic Mackey

Well who is coming this Sunday for some onroad racing. To all wanting crc tires they are in stock while they last and next order is pending so come in a get them they will not last long we ordered like 40 pair and people are picking them up fast

hope to see lot's of racers this weekend...

I am looking for track time with the F1 car. Is anyone else planing on running F1?

Barring anymore work or beer related problems I will be there, laps down, in 12 stock.

I won't be bringing my F1, sorry Chris. But I am sure you will have enough F1 cars for a class. Nippus should be there with his TC, so plan on running that too.

Brad said he can't race this Sunday. Ben will be out of town. Karl lives at the track. Seth is chomping at the bit to run F1 and I am sure he will run 12 stock as well. Pfeiffer probably won't be there. Who else?

-Sean

Hustler - Is Ben racing in Columbus?

David,
I am not in possession of Ben's itinerary, but I believe he is out of town on non-R/C business.

-Sean

Thanks. I will be with you guys on Sunday.

Looking forward to it David.

-Sean

F1 pics from Tuesday night. Scott here you go for the Summit/SARC website.

-Sean

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/510/16831summit_F1-med.jpg
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/510/16831summit_F1_2-med.jpg
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/510/16831summit_F1_1-med.jpg

Don't forget F1 points race this tuesday again. Thanks for the great turnouts for the on-road racing guys. :)

Don't forget F1 points race this tuesday again. Thanks for the great turnouts for the on-road racing guys. :)


I DID NOT POST THIS. WHO DID??? AND WHY??? anyone that would need to do this at the hobby shop should have used his own login name .....rrrrrrrrrr

Tracey

Sorry Tracey. I was in a hurry saturday before the oval race and posted that real quick when someone mentioned they didn't know about the F1 points race this tuesday. It was already posted before I seen the mistake. I really appreciate the great job you guys are doing running the races sundays.

Nice pictures Sean.

Karl

Fergie, I thought a little more about our conversation yesterday after the racing was complete. I will send you a PM regarding the details.

All three pictures are now listed in my previous post. 2005 round #2 tonight.

-Sean

Had another great time last night at the track with you guys. Funny thing. I had a bad day before I got to the track and struggled with my car most of the night but most of you guys have such a great sense of humor it's hard to go there on tuesdays and not have a great time. After some of the crazy stuff that went on during last night races I'll bet there was some great stories being told down at peanuts later on. I know my car wasn't the only one that took flight last night. Right Karl?

Mine was more of a triple summersalut followed by a loud bang. :freak: But I still had a good time and the car continues to get better. If I could only finish the main.

Hey Karl. Thanks for the help last night. I owe you one. :cool:

Another great Sunday at Summit for those of us not scared of a little snow. 12 stock A main was intense. Ron, Phil and David Lee put on quite a show. Most of the rest of us just tried to stay out of the way. Tom, Phillip and I traded positions quite a bit.

This is shaping up to be quite a class. We were missing Lee and his midget posse, Scott Heath, John Kissel, Brad Mergy, the Reinoehls and Seth Barrand, just to name a few. If we get this shaking we will have a VERY tough B main as well.

Secondly, where the heck are those TC guys?? We used to have an overly-healthy touring class and it is now dead! Tyler Hoffmaster showed up from Michigan with his girlfriend on Friday night wanting to race all weekend. I don't think any TCs showed and he left Sunday without racing. Where are you 4 wheel drive guys? The TC3 is dirt cheap, easy to drive, fast and everyone and their brother knows a fast setup. Get organized and restart this class. Someone needs to step up and whip this class back into shape.

Shake it like you got a pair!

-Sean

Well John, are you going to race your AssoLosi 12L4 again?

Hustler: I'm impressed all that and not one Beer refrence... No all kidding aside great day of racing and I could not say it better we need the TC guys to come out.

Yes 12th scale is getting big if all those that bought cars this season show up we will have 3 to 4 heats each week. We have a great group of guys now and with others comming back all the mains will be Great with very close racing across the board...

WANNA RACE?

Tracey

Good to hear that sunday was good. As far as tht TC thing after Dave Hill left there is not anyone in the hobby shop pushing TC. Just 12th scale, the regulars talk about the F1 Class but that's it. I stoped running it because it's no fun running laps by your self. If guys like Karl, Sean, Seth, and Ben would get there TC's back out and if the Hobby Shop would push them I bet the rest of the guys with TC's would get theres out too. Just my two cents.

Chris

Chris,
Make no mistake, I was never a TC guy. I always wanted to race 12 stock or mod, you guys just didn't. So I bought a TC3. Now that 12 is back I have sold my TC3 and am happy again. I like touring car racing, but 12 is what I want to do.

My point is the class is what YOU make it. I was bugging Ron to come back and bending Phil's and Dale's ears about opening up Sunday roadcourse over a year ago. Not to say I created the Internet or anything, but I was one of the loudest squeaky wheels that got 12th scale going again at Summit. Ben and Karl coming over from TC was just a bonus.

The point is YOU need to recruit and get this class moving. There are several people who have TC3s and aren't racing them on Sundays or Tuesdays. Find out who and motivate them to start racing. If you had shown up on Sunday you could have raced with Tyler Hoffmaster who is a good driver and a cool guy. I am sure you had a good reason for not showing, that is not my point. I have a friend who doesn't race because everytime he brings his TC3 no other TCs show. There are at least 8 or 10 of you guys and you are all within 2 or 3 laps of each other. It would be a kickin class if you organized it.

Why is F1 popular right now? Because there was an interest, then I fanned the flame and organized it. Definitely not because the car is so cool and easy to work on. How long will the class last? As long as we maintain the interest in it. If I went out and spent that money on a 12th scale Xray TC or an 18th scale HPI or 10th scale 10L2 pan car and didn't promote the class to others I would have just bought a great shelf racer.

So get after it!

-Sean

Sean, hey man breath, breath. I thought that I was the only one with long posts.

But, all kidding aside, you are right. The TC class is what you make it. Chris, get with the other TC guys and tell them that you will be there on a certain day and then be there. After a while guys will show up. As far as me running touring right now, I'm not sure. I ran a qualifier two weeks ago and beat 2nd by 3 or 4 laps. I have mixed feeling about that. :freak: I was running my practice pack, junk motor, and had not practiced. The car hadn't been run for quite awhile. I am not trying to sound arrogent in any way. But, that was not fun for me, and I'm sure that it was discourageing for the other guys running TC. I want you guys to have fun. Running to see who gets second doesn't sound fun. I know that anything could happen, I could break or have other bad luck, but thats not the point. Chris made the comment that it's no fun running laps by yourself. When you are ahead by 2 or 3 laps, you are running by yourself. Right now there only a handful of people running TC, those that are, are pretty close to the same skill level. This makes for great racing. Having a huge gap in skill levels makes for not very fun racing, in my opinion.

Karl :thumbsup:

OH YEA IT'S MY FAULT chris :cry: BRING YOUR SELF OUT AND RACE, BECAUSE YOU LIKE TO RACE

POINT FINGERS SOMEWHERE ELSE MY friend YOU DON'T SHOW UP AND OTHERS DON'T SHOW AND IT IS SOMEONE IN THE HOBBY SHOPS FAULT

(ME) I THINK NOT

THAT'S A BUCKS WORTH

Tracey :confused:

Wow, tell us how you really feel Tracey!

This wasn't meant to start a beat up on Oldfield moment. The point I was trying to make was if you want something, go get it. The TC class isn't going to form itself when there are 3 or 4 heats of 12 stock. Anyone walking in is going to want a 12th scale, not a TC. You have to get out there and let them know that starting in TC is easier than starting in 12th. I don't necessarily believe one is easier to start in but you have to get these guys running if you want to have someone to run with. There are several guys that are right around your skill level and each of you ends up showing up on different days. YOU Chris, have to coordinate them. Maybe The Commish would start helping you? PM him and ask if he has any suggestions.

-Sean

Nick's hobby shop is now pushing touring cars if you check the shelfs you see I have no less than 3 touring car kits and they are priced to move so come in and look past all the 12th scale stuff and buy a Touring car also we have reduced the price of Touring Foam tires this also is to push touring cars.

Nicks hobby shop home of the TC pusher. where our thing is touring touring touring.
come on down and see the deals on all your touring car needs..

No for real if you look at our shop we have more touring stuff than 12th scale stuff funny thing is it all(tc) has been sitting no joy for NICK

"TC PUSHER" Tracey

maybe this will help :) or call Dave HILL :freak:

Tuesday nights would be a good start... (on the non-points nights for F1). Verlin Schneider would be back out if the racers came... Eric and Jim Reihnold, Dale, Nick Elonze, John Marshall, John Henderson, Jim Englehart, Tim Rasnick and Chris... all guys that have raced touring car on Tuesday nights since 12/28/2004. That would be a 10 car field right there. A great starting point. The last 2 weeks have been F1 point nights, so the touring and 1/12 classes have been a little light those 2 weeks. They should jump up again tonight. I have a touring car in my bag every Tuesday, but like Sean, 1/12 is what I show up to race.
I would love to see Sundays regularly draw 25 1/12 scale drivers and 25 touring car drivers, as well as the scattered 1/18 scales, F1's, etc. There is no reason that can't happen... 1/12 is almost there now, and touring could be there too.

In defense of Tracey and David Hill (why, I don't know.) C. Oldfield is totally off base. Neither of them pushed one scale or another. Most salesmen in shops just want a sale, doesn't matter which. But I will say that if someone came to me if I worked at Nick's and asked me what I liked better I would be honest. That may or may not influence their decision. Chris, what you don't realize is that 1/12th scale has always had a solid group of diehards that just raced elsewhere because there was no weekend racing in the Fort. It has grown because we have WEEKLY racing on the weekend. I would like to see more touring cars also. It would give me more time to work on my car. Anyway, Chris I have seen a number of Sundays that people have come in to race touring and there was not enough so they ran 1/12th instead. You were nowhere around!! If Sundays doesn't work for you then you need to recruite some people to run on Tuesdays. If you go to a pool hall and everybody wants to play 9 ball and you want to play 8 ball you can't blame the pro shop.
Also 1/12th scale was where it all started. I agree that we need more TC's but don't point the finger in the wrong direction. :thumbsup:

TRIVIA:
Who knows where the first electric 1/12 scale car was built?

Fort Wayne, IN

-Jason

Tuesday nights would be a good start... (on the non-points nights for F1). Verlin Schneider would be back out if the racers came... Eric and Jim Reihnold, Dale, Nick Elonze, John Marshall, John Henderson, Jim Englehart, Tim Rasnick and Chris... all guys that have raced touring car on Tuesday nights since 12/28/2004. That would be a 10 car field right there.
Chris, there is your Tuesday night lineup. Chris Oldfield, Verlin Schneider, Richard May, Jim Reinoehl (Matt and Eric too if they choose), Dale Monroe, Nick Elonze, John Marshall, John Henderson, Jim Englehart, Tim Rasnick and whomever else you can think of. Matt, Eric and Verlin are fast, you are also in that range.

This would be a great group to form and lean on each other to get the class going. Look through the Summit web page (http://www.summitrcraceway.com/) and find everyone who has raced TC roadcourse this year and call them. Ask them what they need to get back after it and see what you can do. Coordinate a "touring car raceday" that works with most of their schedules.

Tell the newer guys that the grouchy primadonnas that used to yell at them have left to 12th scale and you guys can all learn speed together. Tell the guys that don't show now that you will be there every Tuesday night waiting for them to run TC, whether it is F1 night or not. Tell them that they can pit next to you and learn, or they can ask Ben, Karl or Brad for help. Matt and Eric have their TC3s dialed, I am SURE they would help ANYONE except Karl. Good luck, let me know if I can help. Get this started and I will help run a points series for you if you think it will help.

Sincerely,
Vic Mackey