anyone else see this. ? http://www.playingmantis.com/er/index.php

any ideas what bodies they are going to use to make a VW " collection , and it says due in Jan? when 07 !

Anyone have anymore info ?

I am working on getting some images of the JL Tjet R9 VW Collection slot cars which are scheduled to be released at the end of January or beginning of February. I will post as soon as I have them.


Motor City Toyz

www.motorcitytoyz.com (http://www.motorcitytoyz.com)

Well.

At least RC2 posted something....
Scott

I was really impressed when I went to the "full story" and read that one sentence. Must have one tough editor. ;) rr

I am working on getting some images of the JL Tjet R9 VW Collection slot cars which are scheduled to be released at the end of January or beginning of February. I will post as soon as I have them.


Motor City Toyz

www.motorcitytoyz.com (http://www.motorcitytoyz.com)
Jeff, I sent you a PM, did you read it yet?

Still waiting on info from RC2. As soon as I hear something, I will let you know.

RC2 does have the licensing for the VW's - no issue there.

Motor City Toyz

I would love to find a set of these!

RC2 does have the licensing for the VW's - no issue there.

Not what I heard... I guess time will tell...

Ugh..... Yknow they could be using this time to do something constructive.. Like a FORD collection (Torinos, Mustang, gt40, etc), or even an AMC collection(and redo the AMXs, and do Rebel Machines, Javelins, etc.-although I know there aren't exactly alot of AMC's that were running around-.. and Im not even a Ford guy, just to tell you how bad of an Idea this is....!

Ugh..... Yknow they could be using this time to do something constructive.. Like a FORD collection (Torinos, Mustang, gt40, etc), or even an AMC collection(and redo the AMXs, and do Rebel Machines, Javelins, etc.-although I know there aren't exactly alot of AMC's that were running around-.. and Im not even a Ford guy, just to tell you how bad of an Idea this is....!
UMMMM............counting all the pullbacks, hardtop, fastback and convt. didn't johnny lightning do a zillion or 2 mustangs. and about 10 different javelins?
I would like to see a release of lead sled, 50's type cars......thats what imma hoping for.

We do need more variety in the JLXTs and sets of Fords and GMs would seem like obvious next steps to follow up the Mopars. I'd be happiest with muscle cars but each set could feature 6 classics and 6 moderns if that would help sell more to the masses. I would also like to see a set of GTP bodies produced for the XTs, similar to the kind that come with the 4-Way Split set.

As far as JLTJ ideas... I bet they'd make a bundle selling replicas of all the classic stock cars from the past 40 years. Tons of money to be made with all things NASCAR. Work out a licensing and co-marketing agreement and sell the cars through hobby shops for $39.99 each. I'd much rather pay up for something like that than a goofy looking White Thunder.

I would like to see them bang out a few "Now and Then" sets....like 66 Mustang and a 2004 Mustang, 55 Vette and 90s Vette, 69 Firebird...1999 Firebird. To make it really nice....put them both in 1 box, and offer a new pair each month for a year. After that they could do a "Stock and Tricked" line up and do the same thing...give us a different bone stock and modified version two-pack each month. Gimmicks like this could go on and on. Most of all, what I want...no.... NEED to see them do, is put out those little customizing kits again. Maybe even gear it more toward slots by including new pick-up shoes, springs, sticky tires, etc. Then life would be perfect!

I'd love to see JL try to bring in more of a racing flavor and NASCAR would be a great place to start. Maybe even get NASCAR drivers of the eras of interest to promote the racing related products. I was very excited when PM/JL first launched their "JL Electric Racing" web site thinking they were on the road to the race track. No such luck. Maybe they were and RC2 derailed it?

I'd love to see JL try to bring in more of a racing flavor and NASCAR would be a great place to start. Maybe even get NASCAR drivers of the eras of interest to promote the racing related products. I was very excited when PM/JL first launched their "JL Electric Racing" web site thinking they were on the road to the race track. No such luck. Maybe they were and RC2 derailed it?


Doesn't RC2 have a bunch of liscensing for NASCAR?????
I would think that more then anything else,doing the new NASCAR stuff in the JL slot line would bring a ton of people to the HO slot hobby.
Could happen. :)

Mike

UMMMM............counting all the pullbacks, hardtop, fastback and convt. didn't johnny lightning do a zillion or 2 mustangs. and about 10 different javelins?
I would like to see a release of lead sled, 50's type cars......thats what imma hoping for.
JL has done a zillion AMC Slot cars for T Jets?? When did this happen?

The Javs are snap-ons. :)

Ugh..... Yknow they could be using this time to do something constructive.. Like a FORD collection (Torinos, Mustang, gt40, etc), or even an AMC collection(and redo the AMXs, and do Rebel Machines, Javelins, etc.-although I know there aren't exactly alot of AMC's that were running around-.. and Im not even a Ford guy, just to tell you how bad of an Idea this is....!


Dude, are you serious??? :rolleyes: Do you even know exactly how big a following VW has??? Producing VW slot cars is a Big "win win" situation for JL/RC2.

AMC has a very limited following......and personally, I find AMC cars repulsive in design.........

As for making a Ford slot car series....I'm sure there will be one available down the road....but heck, it won't be hard to produce...considering how many Ford's have littered JL/RC2's slot car line previously.....Can you say Repaint city ??? :p

Repaint city

There, i said it.

As a person who is not brand loyal, well, ok, i am loyal to Toyotas, and i highly doubt that JL will do a run of those, i would love to see more Muscle Cars, PERIOD.

Anything that you lucky yanks got in the 60's and 70's would be great.
Heck, if they did a 50 years of Corvettes, with 12 different versions would be cool, or even a run of the most popular Nascar based cars from the 60's and 70's without the Nascar paint jobs so that you could decorate them yourself would be great.
That way there would not be a need to pay royalties as such.

Food for thought?

Cheers
Andrij

The Javs are snap-ons. :)

Yeah, sarcasm can be fun...

Dude, are you serious??? :rolleyes: Do you even know exactly how big a following VW has??? Producing VW slot cars is a Big "win win" situation for JL/RC2.

AMC has a very limited following......and personally, I find AMC cars repulsive in design.........

As for making a Ford slot car series....I'm sure there will be one available down the road....but heck, it won't be hard to produce...considering how many Ford's have littered JL/RC2's slot car line previously.....Can you say Repaint city ??? :p

Yeah I am serious... VW's stink, sorry, hate to be the one to say it, but they do, What.. they have the VW BUg..wooohoo... I dunno what the sales number of the Fast and Furious are but Id like to think the Bowties and Mopars are blowing that number out of the water.
I mean the BIGGEST Seller in the Fast and Furious HAD to be the BLACK CHARGER(Even with the dopey Blower out of the hood)
I would say look at how well the Bowties and Mopars are doing.. I would hazzard a guess that the Domestics are what is selling now, and the Ford guys are hopping Mad..

You're right about the Ford Mustangs.. Even though they still sell for a Decent amount on <a href=http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-1606754-2202639 target=_blank>eBay</a><img src=http://www.awltovhc.com/image-1606754-2202639 width=1 height=1 border=0>, indicating people STILL want them.

I guess you'd rather have 800 different tjet VW bugs floating around in Different chromatic colors..Ugh..

Ford's wouldn't be hard to produce they have different models, which Im guessing, would all be desirable.
I would think the VW's will be hard to produce.
I mean they'll have, what? 4 different colors for the VW 60's bug?Whoop de doo....Oh wait.. they could always do two Models of the VW Thing too... :roll:

I dunno I mean I like the VW Bug, but that is it. The old one too, not the new one.

Repaint city

There, i said it.

As a person who is not brand loyal, well, ok, i am loyal to Toyotas, and i highly doubt that JL will do a run of those, i would love to see more Muscle Cars, PERIOD.

Anything that you lucky yanks got in the 60's and 70's would be great.
Heck, if they did a 50 years of Corvettes, with 12 different versions would be cool, or even a run of the most popular Nascar based cars from the 60's and 70's without the Nascar paint jobs so that you could decorate them yourself would be great.
That way there would not be a need to pay royalties as such.

Food for thought?

Cheers
Andrij


Amen,
Actually Toyota (and Nissan) have nice cars.. Im just tired of all this Fast and Furious stuff, make the base models without all that junk and I would think collectors will buy em.I would (I love the Nissan Skyline)

I would LOVE to see JL do Slots for their Muscle car collectors diescast series.. There are some SWEET cars in those.

Yeah I am serious... VW's stink, sorry, hate to be the one to say it, but they do, What.. they have the VW BUg..wooohoo... I dunno what the sales number of the Fast and Furious are but Id like to think the Bowties and Mopars are blowing that number out of the water.
I mean the BIGGEST Seller in the Fast and Furious HAD to be the BLACK CHARGER(Even with the dopey Blower out of the hood)
I would say look at how well the Bowties and Mopars are doing.. I would hazzard a guess that the Domestics are what is selling now, and the Ford guys are hopping Mad..

You're right about the Ford Mustangs.. Even though they still sell for a Decent amount on <a href=http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-1606754-2202639 target=_blank>eBay</a><img src=http://www.awltovhc.com/image-1606754-2202639 width=1 height=1 border=0>, indicating people STILL want them.

I guess you'd rather have 800 different tjet VW bugs floating around in Different chromatic colors..Ugh..

Ford's wouldn't be hard to produce they have different models, which Im guessing, would all be desirable.
I would think the VW's will be hard to produce.
I mean they'll have, what? 4 different colors for the VW 60's bug?Whoop de doo....Oh wait.. they could always do two Models of the VW Thing too... :roll:

I dunno I mean I like the VW Bug, but that is it. The old one too, not the new one.
Outside of maybe Camaros and Mustangs, VW's have the greatest number of collectors, certainly more than AMC...:p

Without too much imagination, a VW release could consist of the following, without even having a 'whoop-de-doo' bug in the lineup...

Samba bus
panel bus
Karmann Ghia hardtop
Karmann Ghia convertible
Type 2 pickup truck
1600 Fastback
Type 3 coupe
Type 3 wagon
VW Thing

No bugs, and without repaints that's at least 9 different cars. and that's just air-cooled...

Let's see... AMC... Uh, Javelin.. oh yeah, AMX. and there's always the Spirit. And don't forget the Pacer, Gremlin and Matador... Oh Boy!!!

What a winning lineup THAT would be...:jest:

I'm not a fanboy of any prticular brand, but an AMC set would be cool, I'd buy a set that had Gremlins, Pacers, Matadors, Javelins, and AMX's.....Plus you can add some Jeep CJ-7's and Ramblers.

The Ford set (when it comes out) wouldn't be complete without a Maverick and a Pinto.

Outside of maybe Camaros and Mustangs, VW's have the greatest number of collectors, certainly more than AMC...:p

Without too much imagination, a VW release could consist of the following, without even having a 'whoop-de-doo' bug in the lineup...

Samba bus
panel bus
Karmann Ghia hardtop
Karmann Ghia convertible
Type 2 pickup truck
1600 Fastback
Type 3 coupe
Type 3 wagon
VW Thing

No bugs, and without repaints that's at least 9 different cars. and that's just air-cooled...

Let's see... AMC... Uh, Javelin.. oh yeah, AMX. and there's always the Spirit. And don't forget the Pacer, Gremlin and Matador... Oh Boy!!!

What a winning lineup THAT would be...


You got that right Lenny.... VW made so many other vehicles besides the classis bug......vans,trucks,wagons,etc. Hell, I could easily see three different versions of the classis bug being released.... an early split rear window, a classic oval window, and a baja style Tjet body......and that's three right there without blinking an eye.

Matt, I know you'd like to believe that your almighty AMC's would crank out more sales than a mere VW bug......but as much as you might want to believe that you're incorrect. VW has a HUGE worldwide following.....hell, I'll bet most of the rest of the world wouldn't even know what an AMC is... :jest:

While an all Ford is probably going to happen at some point, JL has already released enough variants of the Stang IMHO...at least for the 60's era. I wouldn't mind owning a JLTO '93 Cobra Stang,'03 Bullet 'Stang or an '05 Retro Stang.

AMC JLTO's would equal [/CRAP :jest:

Wow Guys, give Matt a break... He's probably never been in a VW bug that has rolled over 3 times just turning a corner. I have... I think there is room to make all kinds of slot car bodies, not just Chevies or Dodges. Frankly, I would rather see JUST American muscle cars and skip the imports altogther. But I will tolerate others having the need for other cars and only purchase what I want. I would buy Hurst Scamblers, Machines, Rebels and Gremlins, I live right down the road from where they were built. A nice 007 Hornet would be real nice too. Besides, Lenny, how many VW's have you ever seen driving around after October in Wisconsin??? No heat, no defrost means no drive.
I would much rather see a Buick GS from the '70's or a 442 or and El Camino than VW's but I will probably get a bug or two just like I got a few Mopars out of the currant Mopar No Car series. I won't buy a whole case as I did previous series though.
Hopefuly with a Ford series JL would be smart enough to add some of the classic Galaxies, torinos and T-birds and skip or limit the Stangs...

I would almost bet the farm that the next series will be a Ford package. I just hope it has alot of NEW models. 80s, 90s, and new 2005 retro-Stang would be nice, as well as a Maverick and dragstyle Pinto (with exploding gas tank) Maybe a classic 57 T-bird, and 80s T-bird Stocker or drag car. Throw in a pick-up or two. Could be a nice little group, and I'm not even a Ford fan. And YES....I would LOVE to see an AMC (Sorry Brian!) AMX, Javelins, Rebel Machines, Matadors, and yeah.....some Jeeps CJ 5s and 7s, and how about a J10 pickup? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! (praying to the JL gods of low voltage and plastic)

But I will tolerate others having the need for other cars......
that's mighty nice of you...


Lenny, how many VW's have you ever seen driving around after October in Wisconsin??? No heat, no defrost means no drive.
...

and this statement fits into this slotcar thread how??? I don't see many Vettes, Mach 1's, Z28's or Harleys after October either, because of the threat of snow and/or road salt... So what? Doesn't mean if you can drive it all 4 seasons that it'll be a slot car hit...

It might be a moot point on the VW's anyway, there are licensing issues and you most definitely WON'T see them in January. No telling when they'll be out...

You may think i am a bit strange, but who cares, i sure as heck dont, and i live with myself.

I know that some of the cars i would love to see would not sell more than a handful of anyways, but some of the cars i would love to see are:

Aussie muscle cars - ( working on a few to resin cast still )
a chevy malibu coupe, sedan and wagon
a 1970 Toyota Crown like the one i am doing up
old school japanese cars
DEFINATELY the 2005 Mustang
Porsche's 924, 928
some of the older british cars

but that is my $0.03(australian) worth

By the way, did i mention more US muscle cars?

Lenny, you guys are beating up on Matt for his opinion about AMC's and It's good to see JL build ANY slot cars... And my point about the heat in VW's was that even in their day VW's were not that popuar around here because they were impractical.And yes I have seen all the above mentioned cars driven just recently as we had nice enough weather but I haven't seen too many bugs out and about. World wide popularity is not an issue, JL sells the slot cars here not anywhere else...

I know that a VaBch HO has a Mailibu 64, GoGo has the 2005 Mustang. Also VaBch HO has a 57 TR3. The other cars I have not seen yet, So what Aussie muscle cars are you going to do?

Roger Corrie

Lenny, you guys are beating up on Matt for his opinion about AMC's and It's good to see JL build ANY slot cars... And my point about the heat in VW's was that even in their day VW's were not that popuar around here because they were impractical.And yes I have seen all the above mentioned cars driven just recently as we had nice enough weather but I haven't seen too many bugs out and about. World wide popularity is not an issue, JL sells the slot cars here not anywhere else...

Hey rodstrguy,

I don't know where you live but here in the Hampton Roads area you see far more vintage VWs on the Roads than AMCs. However I would love it if JL remade the old Matador Stockers and the Rebel the make in diecast.

Roger Corrie

i think they should do some AMCs also,amx,rebel machine and rambler scrambler,,,oh and gremlin.before you smack the gremlin,a randall gremlin xr with the full randall treatment on the 401 will dog slap an LS6 chevelle ,do some reading about it..i am anxious to see the V.W cars .custom bugs rock.

Randall 401-XR Gremlin (http://www.gremlinx.com/RandallXR.htm)

Hmmmm. that's VERY interesting...

my roommate in college had a Gremlin with a Chevy 327 and a 4-speed... black with Cragars. Very cool...

--rick

Lenny, you guys are beating up on Matt for his opinion about AMC's and It's good to see JL build ANY slot cars... And my point about the heat in VW's was that even in their day VW's were not that popuar around here because they were impractical.And yes I have seen all the above mentioned cars driven just recently as we had nice enough weather but I haven't seen too many bugs out and about. World wide popularity is not an issue, JL sells the slot cars here not anywhere else...

we're not beating up on Matt, the guy obviously has his own 'AMC-centric' view of the world where no other manufacturer exists and where VW only makes the Beetle in 100's of chrome colors...

Lenny, you may be right about his "AMC-centeric view" but I just like seeing JL make slot cars, any slot cars. I was really getting tired of paying big $ for every slot car I was buying because it "vintage". I didn't think I would be buying any of the Mopars (I am a big fan of GM cars), but there are some I bought and more I will buy from that series. Like others I don't like the Blowers on slots, but some of them do look nice and I will get them. As for VW's, I have all the Baja Bugs and two of the original tuff ones and a few AF/X Things. It will be nice to see more variety in what is available esspecially if it is not chrome...

It might be a moot point on the VW's anyway, there are licensing issues and you most definitely WON'T see them in January. No telling when they'll be out...

rut roh. sounds like bad news. did you hear that officially? unofficially? semi-officially?

i've been DYING to hear more about this series... i'll take any info i can get...

--rick

I say bring em' on.
Any and all of them.
I am strange enough that I would probably buy a Yugo if RC2/JL made it as a TJet...
A Pacer would be cool..... ;)
Scott

Outside of maybe Camaros and Mustangs, VW's have the greatest number of collectors, certainly more than AMC...:p

Without too much imagination, a VW release could consist of the following, without even having a 'whoop-de-doo' bug in the lineup...

Samba bus
panel bus
Karmann Ghia hardtop
Karmann Ghia convertible
Type 2 pickup truck
1600 Fastback
Type 3 coupe
Type 3 wagon
VW Thing

No bugs, and without repaints that's at least 9 different cars. and that's just air-cooled...

Let's see... AMC... Uh, Javelin.. oh yeah, AMX. and there's always the Spirit. And don't forget the Pacer, Gremlin and Matador... Oh Boy!!!

What a winning lineup THAT would be...:jest:

True, but my point about something else remains valid.. Mark my words..Four different VW Bugs instead of all the ones you listed(Convertable,sedan,baja,and a rally painted one (Like the ol Tuff ones) or some ugly Fast and Furious mod one..Probably put a Chrome blower on it despite being a rear air cooled engine...), and I don't notice alot of people begging for a VW Thing either...... oh You forgot AMC Rebel Machine by the way :tongue: lol
You right about the AMC's there aren't alot, but that didn't stop JL from making only 6 models of Series 7 and just adding twice into the box.
If anything Id rather see JL's collection of Muscle cars as Slots, considering all the models they have in their stable.
Ultimately, I guess Im a guy who likes variety with different brands, unlike the Mopars and Bowties out now I only like those as they are a bunch of cool models that mostly, haven't been out yet.

I'm not a fanboy of any prticular brand, but an AMC set would be cool, I'd buy a set that had Gremlins, Pacers, Matadors, Javelins, and AMX's.....Plus you can add some Jeep CJ-7's and Ramblers.

The Ford set (when it comes out) wouldn't be complete without a Maverick and a Pinto.
PINTO...Wooohooo, Maybe someone can mod the body to pop off if it gets rearended too :jest:

Wow Guys, give Matt a break... He's probably never been in a VW bug that has rolled over 3 times just turning a corner. I have... I think there is room to make all kinds of slot car bodies, not just Chevies or Dodges. Frankly, I would rather see JUST American muscle cars and skip the imports altogther. But I will tolerate others having the need for other cars and only purchase what I want. I would buy Hurst Scamblers, Machines, Rebels and Gremlins, I live right down the road from where they were built. A nice 007 Hornet would be real nice too. Besides, Lenny, how many VW's have you ever seen driving around after October in Wisconsin??? No heat, no defrost means no drive.
I would much rather see a Buick GS from the '70's or a 442 or and El Camino than VW's but I will probably get a bug or two just like I got a few Mopars out of the currant Mopar No Car series. I won't buy a whole case as I did previous series though.
Hopefuly with a Ford series JL would be smart enough to add some of the classic Galaxies, torinos and T-birds and skip or limit the Stangs...

Dough... I Forgot the Scramblers see thats like 8 models now :jest:
Buicks would be nice too(Peticularly the GSX Stage 1)! Again Id like to see the varieties come out of JL I mean they have TONS of Models in Diecast that they could convert to Slots (Although I dunno how hard the process is so if Im wrong forgive me) I mean Id love to see a Dodge Demon in HO Slots too. But you hit it on the head, some cars that one would not normally think of but were kick butt cars back in the day, including some of the AMC's (Most notably the AMX)
Besides all you need to know about VW's is on Bill Cosby's 200 mph record...lol

that's mighty nice of you...




and this statement fits into this slotcar thread how??? I don't see many Vettes, Mach 1's, Z28's or Harleys after October either, because of the threat of snow and/or road salt... So what? Doesn't mean if you can drive it all 4 seasons that it'll be a slot car hit...

It might be a moot point on the VW's anyway, there are licensing issues and you most definitely WON'T see them in January. No telling when they'll be out...

I thought guys in WI run their slot cars outside all year :jest:
Im thinking he is making a remark about how the heartland likes more muscle then VW's... Of course that brings up..yep... a PICKUP series of Tjets /or Xtraction :devil:

Hey rodstrguy,

I don't know where you live but here in the Hampton Roads area you see far more vintage VWs on the Roads than AMCs. However I would love it if JL remade the old Matador Stockers and the Rebel the make in diecast.

Roger Corrie

The am pretty sure Playing Mantis has already done the Rebel Machine in HO Die cast. I think I have one, unfortunately I think they are at my ex gf's house..DOUGH...

we're not beating up on Matt, the guy obviously has his own 'AMC-centric' view of the world where no other manufacturer exists and where VW only makes the Beetle in 100's of chrome colors...

Wow, where did THAT come from?!
All Im saying is that I want to see more difficult cars that you don't normally see come out, and that they would, most likely, sell as well.
Sorry if YOU are 'VW-Centric' and feel that VW's should be produced before any other cars.
And HAVE you been awake during JL's nightmare of 1 thousand colors for one model? :jest: (Being sarcastic, not trying to be mean)
I love the JLTO's and the XT's but some colors are NOT meant to be on these cars... Well maybe VW's... ;)

The am pretty sure Playing Mantis has already done the Rebel Machine in HO Die cast. I think I have one, unfortunately I think they are at my ex gf's house..DOUGH...
In fact they've done it about 4 or 5 times; in a previous Muscle Car release (repainted a gazillion times), in the 1997 Toy Fair release, and a couple other times...

I thought guys in WI run their slot cars outside all year :jest:
Im thinking he is making a remark about how the heartland likes more muscle then VW's... Of course that brings up..yep... a PICKUP series of Tjets /or Xtraction :devil:
Actually, there ARE a few guys in the area that run large scale trains outside all year round...

Dough...

If you're going to quote the great Homer Simpson, at least do it the right way... DOH!!!

If you're going to quote the great Homer Simpson, at least do it the right way... DOH!!!
DOH, sorry....

Just received final word from RC2 that the VW R9 Thunderjets have been canceled due to licensing issues. VW was not happy with JL releasing the Herbie the Love Bug using just licensing from Warner Bros and there were other issues with the Greatful Dead VW's too.

VW is playing hard ball now and making life a little hard on RC2 corp....

I will be taking these off my website later tonight and will be sending emails out to all my customers that pre-order them.

If anything changes, I will update info both here and on my website.

Thanks!

Not at all dissapointed with this news. I thought a whole release worth of VW's would have been a major mistake. A few old bugs and vans would be all right , but 12 ? No thanks .

would have been nice to see some custom bugs but ,,oh well.all our ideas were good.bring on,,
gremlin
scrambler
amx
machine
buick gnx
442
duster-demon
71-road runner[not a stock car ]but a real roadrunner ,graphics and all
73 trans am super duty
69 cougar eliminator
ford gt-40
:thumbsup: