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post #1 of 138 (permalink) Old 02-02-2017, 05:05 PM Thread Starter
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R2 "tomorrow is Yesterday" F-104/Enterprise

Well it came.



The F-104 kit is the old Lindberg 1/48 kit. R2 updates the decals to match the show aircraft.



Oddly there is no pilot figure included in the kit.

I've started on the kit. Here are the Enterprise sub-assemblies.



Lots of seems clean up, bit so far no filler needed.

The F-104 is an old kit from the '60s or '70s. Its all raised details and the fit is what you
get from an old kit like this. The cockpit and gear wells are sparse on details. The gearwells
don't really matter as I'm going for an inflight aircraft.

Sadly there is no sky background to mount the ships to for a forced perspective display.
I thought that R2 would include one. It won't be hard to make, but I had hoped for it.
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I can't stop laughing, that Enterprise reminds me so much of the Gamescience game miniature.

But wait. Does it have the three 'divots' on the underside of the saucer? What's up with that?!

What little research I've done on the Lindberg F-104 leads me to believe that as misshapen as it appears to be it's actually got the right shape for the XF-104 (I think Lindberg modified the intakes to more like 'factory' F-104 standards later) when we all know that the proper aircraft should be a F-104C.

blah blah. Full marks for the idea, one star for execution and that is mostly, IMHO, the decal sheet which should work nicely with the proper plane.

Yeah, it needed a stand and a backdrop to properly execute the 'forced perspective diorama' use.
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How big is the Enterprise? I think the best part of this kit is the box art. Beautiful illustration!
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So that's the Enterprise from the old 3-ship snap kit right? The one with the pylon vents on the outer sides of the pylons? I'd find a better F-104 kit to put the decals onto, even the old Monogram kit would do.
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So that's the Enterprise from the old 3-ship snap kit right? The one with the pylon vents on the outer sides of the pylons? I'd find a better F-104 kit to put the decals onto, even the old Monogram kit would do.
Someone knows better but I think they modded the tooling for that to make the nacelle pylons smooth. I see decals for the vents on the sheet.

So that's better. Still confused by the divots on the saucer. I guess AMT must have done that way back when so it looked like the other, only existing kit of the Enterprise.
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The Enterprise is about 2 1/2 inches long. It's 1/2500 scale.

The one from the 3 ship set is about 5 inches long I think.

The shape of the F-104 is not that bad. It looks like a C to me.
The vertical stab is not a G model tail.
It's not short like the XF-104



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Mach, you have the kit and know better, so you're probably right. I was going off pics of the F-104 Lindberg has been selling (and seen on the R2 site) where the pic of the kit had that odd short/chubby look to the nose/cockpit area. The pics you've posted look NOTHING like that kit.

So, good news, the F-104 isn't quite the trash fire we all thought!
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Yah, it is definitely is not a XF-104. It does look a bit flat in the last half of the fuselage.

The Enterprise is about 4-5 inches long. Not the 2.5 I posted.
It looks the B/C deck is the same as the old AMT 1/650 Enterprise.
It has the 3 dimples under the saucer.

Here is the cockpit installed

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And the Enterprise is built.



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Yeah that's the old kit, though they did fix the vents and removed the saucer grids.
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Did you sand off the raised window frames on the secondary hull or did they retool those parts to remove them? I guess they had to retool if there is now a hole for the stand. If those huge window frames are gone that is an improvement for the 1:2500 big E model.

Do the new decals include the landing gear triangles? I had to make my own when I build one of those 1:2500 kits. There were a few others missing that I had to make myself but I can't remember which ones.
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On the decal sheet, please note that there are numbers for three different planes.

In the episode, the stock shots that were used, were made up of shots from three different planes.
So you can model which ever shot you like the most.
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I am waiting for someone to build the plane partially crushed by the tractor beam- the pilot is not included since he was already beamed out.
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I am waiting for someone to build the plane partially crushed by the tractor beam- the pilot is not included since he was already beamed out.
I have a friend doing exactly that, altho I believe he's using a better kit of the F-104, so maybe that doesn't count.
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For comparison here's a budget F-104 kit without "Star Trek."

Monogram 1/48 F-104C Starfighter
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