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1/1000 USS Excelsior Update from Round 2

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#6 · (Edited)
The changes to the secondary hull between this and the old kit are subtle but noticeable. Here's a comparison between the retool and my own build. The difference in the profile of the secondary hull no doubt affects the shape of the deflector dish opening when viewed bow on:

Excelsior-Round2 Retool by trekriffic, on Flickr
Excelsior 027 by trekriffic, on Flickr

Excelsior-Round2 Retool by trekriffic, on Flickr
Excelsior 028 by trekriffic, on Flickr


The retooled secondary appears thicker top to bottom like it should.
 
#7 ·
Take my money!

This is one kit I'm very excited for! So glad they went through and made the fixes. It's unfortunately that the limitations of styrene dictate that the neck be made of 2 pieces. That's one heck of a seam that makes me cringe when I think about it!
 
#25 ·
This is one kit I'm very excited for! So glad they went through and made the fixes. It's unfortunately that the limitations of styrene dictate that the neck be made of 2 pieces. That's one heck of a seam that makes me cringe when I think about it!
Yes, I agree that the neck is hard to do well in styrene.

Hopefully, there is some talented person out there, who can do a correct one and put it up on Shapeways.
 
#17 ·
I plan on getting 3: NX-2000, NCC-2000, and my version of the NCC-1701-B. That last was issued based on an earlier design of the Enterprise B, not what we saw on screen. Though close, it was off in a number of ways.

The secondary hull cutout on the NCC-2000, it looks like some of the interior shapes were inverted in a dimensional sense. If that is the case, it will be fairly easy to correct.
 
#24 ·
Can you elaborate on the differences that you mention?

On a personal note, I always thought that NCC-1701-A..... SHOULD have been an Excelsior class.
Based on the idea that a real Navy, after building a Nimitz class carrier, wouldn't go back and build an Essex class carrier.

And even so, the Enterprise 'B' depicted in 'Generations' wouldn't exhibit some traits of the 'D' (flaired secondary hull and impulse engines like those on the 'D') when those traits weren't depicted on the 'C'.

So, I may go totally rogue, and build a NCC-1701-A, using an Excelsior kit.
However, since there are some interesting parts on the 'B' kit, I may incorporate some of them.
 
#34 · (Edited)
I count 20 ribs in this image from Trekcore, but I may be off.

TrekCore Star Trek Movies Screencaps: Click image to close this window

Now that i look at that image, I'm not so sure the thickness between the rib/layers and the spacers is actually different. Each layer would likely be thicker than photoetch brass, but I think the thickness is consistent. How thick can brass be photoetched?

Here's another image. In this one I count 21 ribs/layers.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=55297&fullsize=1
 
#36 ·
I knew some of the Nexus shots had a CG ship, but wasn't sure whether the second picture was it or not. That makes sense.

So we're looking at 41 segments total (20 ribs and 21 spacers). So I guess the way to determine the rib thickness is to take the neck height dived by 41. Who has the neck measurements and who can do math! :grin2:
 
#44 ·
Guys I wouldn't use the neck on the AMT kit for any measurements. I started the new Excelsior yesterday and was working on the neck and can tell you it's to tall it has the right amount of ribs and spacers but the plastic is to thick and it makes the neck to tall. The ribs are also not right it has 5 above the indents and 15 below it should be 16 below and 4 above. I've also been comparing it to my after market neck and looking at pictures again and can tell you the after market neck is right. I actually removed one of the rib section on the top just so the neck would be the right height.
 
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