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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-19-2017, 12:12 PM Thread Starter
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18"Diameter Hero version Jupiter 2...UPDATE

"Hero miniature" version. Here now is the Jupiter 2...My personal build reflecting all the details and imperfections of the original 4' hero miniature as seen in the second broadcast episode, "The Derelict". The model features an actual spinning scanner in the upper bubble as well as mechanical spinning lights in the engine. Both are controlled by a potentiometer and can be adjusted accordingly. The outer hull was airbrushed aluminum with a clear flat coat applied to reflect the original model. the side airlock hatch was not on the filming miniature so I filled in and sanded smooth the area. The interior features the "Derelict"interior scrim and four figures as well as scale lighting.

As I continue on my obsession of getting it "right", Ive learned that you can't just put a 32 Led chaser circuit in the core for the correct effect. . The Jupiter 2 (at least in the look of the episode I wanted, "The Derelict" ), Had six lights spinning counter clockwise. I have the ability to speed up the Lights and bubble scanner and recreate the footage from the series, since it was slowed down in the final footage. It's been an uphill battle but I am happy with my results for now. Next is my working landing gear...but that will have to wait for awhile.

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I'll say it again, it's a beautiful job you've done so far. I think it's a bit of a problem, that 'fusion core', because of the sheer difference between static LEDs chasing and wonderful old-school bulbs spinning around. Those spinning bulbs, the way the insides were designed, heck they may have even been a rotating shutter or something in there.

It's an amazing, beautiful effect they came up with, more dynamic than the similar Forbidden Planet effect.
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I'll say it again, it's a beautiful job you've done so far. I think it's a bit of a problem, that 'fusion core', because of the sheer difference between static LEDs chasing and wonderful old-school bulbs spinning around. Those spinning bulbs, the way the insides were designed, heck they may have even been a rotating shutter or something in there.

It's an amazing, beautiful effect they came up with, more dynamic than the similar Forbidden Planet effect.
Many,Many sincere thanks sir!
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I sure wish they had done this model when I was a kid. My inner child wants to play with it.
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I sure wish they had done this model when I was a kid. My inner child wants to play with it.
Indeed!

I mean, Lost in Space was on for 3 years. I think they COULD have gotten a kit of the Jupiter II out, but they just didn't. I can't recall the reasoning.

Maybe it was that early 'Space Family Robinson' concept, where the Gemini XII was basically disposable as the Robinson's adapted to their new world. Why make a kit of something seen flying once, right? That makes the two Cyclops kits make a whole lot more sense in context. But I'm just speculating.

HAHAHA but I also imagine a Gemini XII hastily modified to include the Jupiter II lower window shutters and probably the hatch (ala the Seaview kit with the flying sub outline carved into the underside) but still basically the Gemini XII (shallower underside, larger window and all) and released to market. Picture decades of builds with fans modding the living daylights out of the kit seeking accuracy.
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I seem to remember reading that the execs at Aurora thought the Jupiter 2 was too plain/boring for it to sell well.

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I seem to remember reading that the execs at Aurora thought the Jupiter 2 was too plain/boring for it to sell well.

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Well, yeah, I can see that point of view. It's not as interesting a shape as the later 'Invaders' saucer, and the Spindrift has a lot going on visually both in shapes and lighting effect, while the poor old Jupiter II is just a big silver disc.

Of course this is a case where the 'money' people should have been ignored. I feel had Aurora made a kit of the Jupiter II it may well have given the AMT Enterprise a run for it's money in terms of long lasting sales popularity.

I recall having the deluxe Switch N' Go set from Mattel, with the styrofoam Jupiter II (was that a Sears Exclusive thing?). I played with the foam ship more than the rest of the set! Oh so many crash landings...
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"Hero miniature" version. Here now is the Jupiter 2...My personal build reflecting all the details and imperfections of the original 4' hero miniature as seen in the second broadcast episode, "The Derelict". The model features an actual spinning scanner in the upper bubble as well as mechanical spinning lights in the engine. Both are controlled by a potentiometer and can be adjusted accordingly. The outer hull was airbrushed aluminum with a clear flat coat applied to reflect the original model. the side airlock hatch was not on the filming miniature so I filled in and sanded smooth the area. The interior features the "Derelict"interior scrim and four figures as well as scale lighting.



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The rotating effect looks spot on. Amazing work.
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OK about the landing gear. I've thought this through a few years ago. A Jackshaft system will pull the legs down and with power off they will stay down and support the model. You'll want the HERO Gear aftermarket set . You will need to add a brass frame inside of it so you can add the extensions to the back of the legs where the wire will attach. You can add spring loaded relief on the footpad doors so the wires holding up the legs can get to where they need to be while the footpad doors will just hit a stop so the springs will compress instead of yanking the FP doors too far.
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OK about the landing gear. I've thought this through a few years ago. A Jackshaft system will pull the legs down and with power off they will stay down and support the model. You'll want the HERO Gear aftermarket set . You will need to add a brass frame inside of it so you can add the extensions to the back of the legs where the wire will attach. You can add spring loaded relief on the footpad doors so the wires holding up the legs can get to where they need to be while the footpad doors will just hit a stop so the springs will compress instead of yanking the FP doors too far.
Excellent advise sir! Currently, this will have to be put aside as I am obligated to several other projects first. But Yes, I planned on getting the after market hero gear!
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The rotating effect looks spot on. Amazing work.
Sincere thanks my friend!

The lighting effect is Mechanical...SIX lights, 60 degrees apart spin via a motor counter clockwise(left to right when viewed from the front) as does the upper bubble scanner...both tied in together to a variable speed potentiometer. I can speed it up or slow it down as I see fit! The effect can't be down correctly with a 32 led chaser system .
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Lunar Models 24" Jupiter 2, actually is the Gemini 12. The lower window shutters have to be filled and rescribed. The lower hull and main viewport are definitely Gemini. Also, it is funny that a Jupiter 2 was never kitted, especially since Land of the Giants ran only 2 years and had 3 kits made: Spindrift, Snake, and (brainfart!) can't remember the third. Although, Lost in Space did get the Chariot and the Robot. I think the only "model" of the Jupiter 2 put out in the 60s was a wheeled toy in Japan. It is worth noting that it apparently reflected a thick lower hull with interior, more matching how the ship would have really looked (at least, I think!).
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Lunar Models 24" Jupiter 2, actually is the Gemini 12. The lower window shutters have to be filled and rescribed. The lower hull and main viewport are definitely Gemini. Also, it is funny that a Jupiter 2 was never kitted, especially since Land of the Giants ran only 2 years and had 3 kits made: Spindrift, Snake, and (brainfart!) can't remember the third. Although, Lost in Space did get the Chariot and the Robot. I think the only "model" of the Jupiter 2 put out in the 60s was a wheeled toy in Japan. It is worth noting that it apparently reflected a thick lower hull with interior, more matching how the ship would have really looked (at least, I think!).
Was there a third Land of the Giants kit? I'm sure I'll feel totally stupid if/when it's revealed and I'll be all "Oh of course!". I'm sure the cardboard and toothpick 'craft' kit of the Spindrift doesn't count.

Japan put out a couple of LIS kits. All were of the 'play model' (build your own toy) variety. I recall two Jupiter IIs and a halfway decent Chariot, with a wired remote control. I'm positive someone here has chapter-and-verse on these.
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