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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-10-2017, 12:28 PM Thread Starter
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My Moebius 1/32 Proteus Build with mods...



1) That white goop around the one rear window is drying epoxy. It will be removed and the rest will be clear and unseen.

2) Not knocking anyone who wants to cut out the rear to view the cabin...More power to ya! Thinking outside the box. However in my humble opinion, the lines of the Proteus are so clean, doing so renders the model toylike and is a distraction...to me.
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1) That white goop around the one rear window is drying epoxy. It will be removed and the rest will be clear and unseen.

2) Not knocking anyone who wants to cut out the rear to view the cabin...More power to ya! Thinking outside the box. However in my humble opinion, the lines of the Proteus are so clean, doing so renders the model toylike and is a distraction...to me.
You milage may vary

That is all.
How did you modify Randy's hatches to allow them to open and close?
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How did you modify Randy's hatches to allow them to open and close?
You have to perform some surgery...

I removed the retaining bracket at the rear ...Sanded the area smooth. Used a brass tubing bit cut to size to fit the hatch, through which i inserted a brass bin. You have to play around a bit to get it right.
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1) That white goop around the one rear window is drying epoxy. It will be removed and the rest will be clear and unseen.

2) Not knocking anyone who wants to cut out the rear to view the cabin...More power to ya! Thinking outside the box. However in my humble opinion, the lines of the Proteus are so clean, doing so renders the model toylike and is a distraction...to me.
You milage may vary
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I would think shrinking it down to a few inches would render it even more toylike.

Beautiful build. It's really not one of my 'most beloved' '60s icons but I respect it.

Saying that, 20th Fox must have bought those 'submarine hatches' in bulk. or just used the same 6 over and over...
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i'm not trying to be a wise guy, but.......
would there be any turbulence from a current passing down the back on either side of the large stabilizer? and would that obscure the view from the back windows if opened up?
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would there be any turbulence from a current passing down the back on either side of the large stabilizer? and would that obscure the view from the back windows if opened up?
Well, heck, I always wondered just how much steering force that 'window slat' layout in the stabilizer provided. It's more usual to have both dorsal and ventral steering vanes in a submarine (don't get me started on the difficulties of the Seaview! ) and having a giant 'fixed' (as opposed to split) horizontal fin, well that gives a very positive 'up/down' response.

Was steering supposed to be mainly in the water jet exhaust?

I assume part of the concept of Proteus was influence by Cousteau's famous little underwater saucer with it's positionable water jet propulsion.
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Just by going from the "picture" of the model in the youtube video post by Captain Han Solo above - the windows are sort of angled rectangle shaped. How is the window shutter is suppose to open? If is slides outward, then the shutter would stick out on the top edge.
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Just by going from the "picture" of the model in the youtube video post by Captain Han Solo above - the windows are sort of angled rectangle shaped. How is the window shutter is suppose to open? If is slides outward, then the shutter would stick out on the top edge.
Isn't it a cover dogged down? If I'm remembering the set picture it looked like the entire cover would be removed and stored, unless there's a hinge I don't recall.
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Well, heck, I always wondered just how much steering force that 'window slat' layout in the stabilizer provided. It's more usual to have both dorsal and ventral steering vanes in a submarine (don't get me started on the difficulties of the Seaview! ) and having a giant 'fixed' (as opposed to split) horizontal fin, well that gives a very positive 'up/down' response.

Was steering supposed to be mainly in the water jet exhaust?
The studio blueprints show the exhaust nozzles swiveling to provide steering control, but this was never shown in the movie.


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Just by going from the "picture" of the model in the youtube video post by Captain Han Solo above - the windows are sort of angled rectangle shaped. How is the window shutter supposed to open? If is slides outward, then the shutter would stick out on the top edge.
Isn't it a cover dogged down? If I'm remembering the set picture it looked like the entire cover would be removed and stored, unless there's a hinge I don't recall.
There seem to be grab handles to swing the covers upward, but there's nothing that looks like a hinge -- just those anchor-shaped brackets (?) at the top. Can anyone make sense of this arrangement?


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I would guess they would be like 'hurricane covers' or armored shutters on a porthole. I would think you undogged that top device, gripped the handles and pulled the cover away and stowed it somewhere.

No, I can't think of any practical use for it being that way. If the glass were to crack and threaten the sub digging out the covers and dogging them into place would be just about impossible. MAYBE if for some reason there were a fear of depth charges.

But then again, if something cracked the back windows, I tremble in fear of what would happen up front...

(watch, someone will now find a set still or framegrab that shows a series of similar latches all across above the front glass implying that there are similar covers stowed 'somewhere' that could be dogged down to cover the windows. )
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I haven't seen the movie in years. There was talk about cutting out the rear panels and adding windows and I started thinking on how the shutters would open and close. I always thought that the shutters were on the outside of the sub and someone would press a button and they would slide or flip to uncover the windows. When I saw that rear shot with the uncovered windows it didn't look like the shutters would have room outside to slide or flip aside. Thanks for the interior rear wall photo, so the shutters are on the inside (not on the outside as I thought). I also agree that removing them by hand and storing them somewhere is to time consuming. If the windows are going, you want to have the shutters in place fast!
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I don't think we were meant to give the detail that much thought...but they are windows and are clearly stated as such in the blueprints. Harper Goff, as some of you may know was the builder of the Proteus as well as the father of the original Disney Nautilus. A similar viewport/window was in the rear of the wheelhouse of the Nautilus, and perhaps a slight nod to Nemo's sub.
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I really like having the aft view ports on the Proteus- the ship was designed for observing and having no rear view available at all would be strange. I plan to build my ship with them open, mostly so I can see the wonderful lab section without removing the hull. I think I will mock up the removed shutters and stow them inside somewhere...
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