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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 08-26-2007, 06:41 PM Thread Starter
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Tyco 440x2

As with any magnet car drop the chassis as low as possibe without dragging the track(maybe slightly dragging in some casses). Yeah, I know its basic 101.
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Tyco tuning tip

Stretch the motor brush springs to protrude from the barrels about 1/4 to 1/8 inch to add some "oomph" to the arm. Use a "dead" ball point ink pen and carefully round the edges between the commutator sections to smooth the arm.
If you run left turn ovals, swap the motor magnets ( and axle gear ) to the right side to make the armature turn to the right (to transfer weight to the left). (don't forget to change the rear gear orientation.

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Its been a long time since I raced them but the Chassis and Bulkheads make a big difference as cetrtain combinations allow the traction magnet and motor magnets to set lower. I not 100% sure nut I believe it use to be a 4 dot chassis and bulkheads but I won't swaer to it This was for the older narrow X2 chassis

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Use the front bulkhead with a checkmark / Nikie swoosh on top and 4 dot rear bulkhead. Also look for the magnets with a blue or black stripe on the white paint. Randy.
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Guys....

Ive read a lot about these but my experience with them is almost nil.
These seem to have come and gone while I was on my 20 some odd year hiatus from slots.

Do a lot of folks still race these?????? Is there a good source for these cars and chassis and parts at a reasonable price????

Id like to mess around with them a bit.

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Hi Mike,

You should be able to pick these up at one of the Slot Shows that happen in your area.

I race the slim 440X-2 chassis in our Super Stock Class. We can use Silicone Coated Sponge rear tires, hollow rear axle, after market gears, independent front ends, and silver electrical, but the armature, all magnets, and chassis is to be stock. The body can be Lexan and must be painted.
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Mike, Scale Auto sells pretty much every part for the X2, stock Tyco stuff. You can build a whole chassis for probably $10 or so.
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Hey Mike. I would definitely try a few if I was you. The 440-x2 was a very well designed slot. Top of the line for a long time. Very fast, smooth, quiet, and very reliable. I never got a bad one. The Nascars they were putting out right up till they sold out were beautiful also. Dave.
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You guys have piqued my curiosity on theses.Im going to have to try a few.Might be good for me to use for a beginners class kind of thing.

Ok.Magnet car history questions now.
Am I correct in assumimg that the wiz and slot tech cars are based at least in part on this chassis design????

Im a G3 kinda guy,but I love the Wiz Storms.Have a bunch of Wiz cars in my box actually.Probaby more then G's.

And then theres the car that always really intrigued me.The Decosmo T+.
Now that one I really want to try.

Am I correct in assuming that tis design is based on a G3 and a Tyco???

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Try SCJ Slot Car Johnnies he contributes on the board and I'm pretty sure he carries them. The websense at work has his site blocked so I acn't check for you.

http://www.slotcarjohnnies.com

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Its been a long time since I raced them but the Chassis and Bulkheads make a big difference as cetrtain combinations allow the traction magnet and motor magnets to set lower. I not 100% sure nut I believe it use to be a 4 dot chassis and bulkheads but I won't swaer to it This was for the older narrow X2 chassis

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If memory serves me correctly...
For stock class racing the hot setup used to be the Malaysia 2 dot chassis the dots are located on the bottom side of the chassis at the rear, behind the axel. This chassis has the axel holes positioned up higher than all the others giving you the lowest center of gravity.

The 4 dot rear bulkhead is the best choice for adding downforce, it positions the chassis magnets the lowest of all the bulkheads.

Last but I think most important is the check mark front bulkhead, it has the best alignment between the brush barrels and the armature center line.

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Thanks Zig it has all come back now Been a while since I raced TYCO Super Stocks. At my second HOPRA nationals I flipped the rear bulkhead so the tabs that held the magnets were up top. This allowed one traction magnet to float down and the other floated up just a tad. I adjusted the rear tire height till the magnet that floated down just barley touched the rail. Came in 5th with it. Had a blast it was in Awagma Mass.

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Past Tyco Tips from HO Champion Tony McWilliams

Winning Tyco Set Up from Tony "TMAC" McWilliams

1.) 1 dot maylasian chassis.
2.) check mark front w/ no bushing.
3.) 4 dot rear bulkhead w/ no bushing.
4.) lexan body.
5.) .006 brush spring.
6.) 80% copper brush.
7.) .012 pick up spring
8.) Ski shoe.
9.) Matched Tyco motor mags.
10.) Small window motor.
11.) Phase II traction mags.
12.) .365 front tires.
13.) .446 hard compound silicone tire.
14.) 7/25 tyco gears.
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Can anyone answer this ? what is the 2nd best set up if you don't have a check mark front bulkhead and a 4 dot rear bulkhead ?

What about a 1,2,3,4 dot front bulkhead ? or are these a waste ?
What about a 1,2,3 dot rear bulkhead ? or are these a waste ?
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I don't think any of them are a complete waste...
NOTE: the "Hot" setup is for stock or super stock racing, where nothing can be modified!

As soon as you start tinkering with anything not stock such as...
1) aftermarket or rewound arms
2) Adjustable brush holders
3) Aftermarket wheels and or axels
4) Aftermarket gears
5) neo, poly, or cobalt magnets
6) Aftermarket pickup shoes and springs
7) Chinese Chassis

All of the "Hot Tricks" go rite out the window

Trial and error is the best bet for finding the "Best" or "2nd Best" setup...
Good handling is often much better than top speed.

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