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post #16 of 56 (permalink) Old 06-28-2013, 03:51 PM
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There's also another Touring Car based oval class called Street Stock. If you use the Pro Line Bead Lock wheels and any 2.2 tires, they bolt right up to 190mm Touring Cars that makes them 9" wide. We have a wide variety of Street Stock bodies that work. A great fun class for all skill levels for a cool Vintage Oval look. Here's my personal 59 Plymouth Street Stock, plus my Pontiac Trans Am for Vintage Oval. Both will be races tomorrow....plus my Pan Cars!!

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The catch 22 is how many oval racers will want an on road car or how many on road racers want a pan car. The four wheel drive sedans on oval have been tried before. In the long run the class would most likely be a local thing, as most people say we have too many classes now.

As a nostalgic class with spec rules, I bet it would not be long before we old guys would be racing the younger crowd and sportsman racers that want a fun class.
Well, the idea would be to try and get "crossover" guys: a cheap(er) way to go oval racing using older Touring Cars and spec'ing the electronics and tires like USVTA. Oval racers that like the "vintage" style bodies (such as myself) should be interested; and "road-racing" guys should like the "easier" layouts of oval racing, beatin' and bangin' fenders.

Gary: you mention Pro-Line beadlocks. Are those for Touring Cars? I was thinking of using the HPI "NASCAR style" wheels, and slick tires.
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GARY............I love that old Plymouth! I wish SRS would let us use that body for street stocks!!!!
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Jimmy- Here is the part number for the wheels...PRO270402 . They are a bigger wheel that takes any 2.2 rubber tire, so you can run asphalt, carpet or dirt oval depending on the tire selection. They are bead locks so they are reusable too. It's perfect for the 9" wide bodies. It's real "Bombers" Baby!!!

Grumpy- I'm sure you can use the Plymouth at SRS...I know guys are using them there...Tell Adam I said you could...LOL
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[QUOTE=Grumpy- I'm sure you can use the Plymouth at SRS...I know guys are using them there...Tell Adam I said you could...LOL[/QUOTE]

I'll do just that Gary............. I hate to buck the rules but they should be okay as long as they are 9" and the Plymouth is.
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Actually, if you dig up a hard copy of the Street Stock rules for SRS, all of our Street Stock bodies are on the list including the Plymouth. Mike Sheehan started the class there and set up the rules in January. Have fun with your Street Stock.
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I did and this is what it says;

Approved Street Stock Body List:
 McAllister #290- ’69 DODGE CHARGER STREET STOCK
 McAllister #268– MONTE CARLO STREET STOCK
 McAllister #264– CAMARO STREET STOCK
 McAllister #125– BUICK REGAL STREET STOCK
 McAllister #136- 1/10 ‘70 MUSTANG STREET STOCK
 McAllister #134- 1/10 ‘70 BARRACUDA STREET STOCK
 McAllister #256 FIREBIRD STREET STOCK
 McAllister #125– BUICK REGAL STREET STOCK

Oh, I plan on having fun running the class. New to the area here and no place to run my nitro sprint
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I like this idea. Larry lets get something like this at glenns
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Huh, here's the rules I got....

Street Stock Class Rules and Specifications

Body Specifications:
Late '50s to early '80s American Stock Car bodies only.
McAllister 9" Street Stock Body part numbers:
290 - 1969 Dodge Charger Street Stock
292 - 1959 Plymouth Street Stock
268 - Monte Carlo Street Stock
264 - Camaro Street Stock
125 - Buick Regal Street Stock
136 - 1970 Barracuda Street Stock
159 - 1951 Mercury 9" Body 256 - Firebird Street Stock

Chassis Specification:
Four Wheel Drive TC3 and TC4 190mm touring car chassis only. No modifications or fabrication. Chassis must be of OE Design and function.
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That is strange Gary. I downloaded the whole PDF rules from their site. Well, I like what you found better....

I may go with the Merc if that's the case. Love that body style. Old school like I am....
Can I get it direct from your site?
Also, what tires are you running there?
I won't be ready for a couple weeks, but I will see you there soon.

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If you guys are interested, here's what I had figured for an "All-American Stock Car" class.

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Use the USVTA rules as a base. Touring-car chassis, AWD/4WD. No "oval-only" chassis. Use USVTA electronics/battery/motor rules. Driver figure not required.

Motor Specifications:
25.5 brushless with 2C LiPo: Novak Vulcan 25.5 Spec brushless motor or Ballistic 25.5 ONLY combined with any hard-cased 2C 7.4v LiPo pack up to and including 5000 mAh capacity. Novak motors are the ONLY motor allowed at this time. All house track rules regarding LiPo usage apply. Only physical motor timing advance is allowed, however Ballistic motors must not be advanced beyond the last line of the timing range sticker. 12.3 mm rotor diameter only (no "tuning" rotors are allowed, only stock Novak rotors allowed). Using ceramic bearings in the motor makes you a dork. No modifications or optional parts allowed on motor can, endbell, stator, or rotor. No cooling holes or other changes allowed to motor. Fans and external clip on heatsinks are allowed, but integral type heatsinks/fans including but not limited to those that require motor disassembly to mount are illegal.

All decisions of the race promoter or track owner are final.

Approved ESCs:

Novak-
Club Brushless ESC (#1852)
EDGE 2S Brushless ESC (#1850, 1851)
Mongoose Micro Brushless/Brush ESC (#1718)
GTB 2 Racing w/X-Drive (#1749)
GTB 2 Racing w/X-Drive- Low Profile (#1748)
GTB 2 Sportsman Racing Brushless ESC (#1708, 1709)
GTB series part numbers:1710, 1711
Havoc series part numbers:1732, 1733, 1735
Slyder part number: 1712

LRP
A.i. Brushless Reverse part numbers: LRP80100, LRP80150

SPEED PASSION
Cirtix Stock Club Race ESC part number: 12280
Reventon Stock Club Race part number:SP000048

HOBBYWING
JUSTOCK Club ESC (same esc, but differing part numbers)-
Falcon Sekido Part #
Hobbywing Justock Black: 81020001 (Black)
Hobbywing Justock blue 81020000 (Blue)

CRC Part #
7014 - Hobbywing XERUN Juststock Club No timing ESC - Sensored

Battery Specifications:
Battery Specifications: 2 cell LiPo hard cased, 5000 mAh limit

Ride Height Specification:
Minimum ride height is 5mm.

Weight Specification:
Minimum 1550g in race-ready trim

Tires:
HPI P/N #4792 (Rear, slick, D-compound, 31mm) and P/N #4791 (Front, slick, D-compound, 26mm) ONLY.

Wheels:
HPI wheels P/N #'s:
#33472 VINTAGE Wheel CC Type 26mm CHROME(0mm OFFSET/2pcs)
#33473 VINTAGE Wheel CC Type 31mm CHROME(6mm OFFSET/2pcs)
#3743 Stock Car Wheel 26mm Chrome (1mm Offset)
#3741 Stock Car Wheel 26mm Black
#3854 VINTAGE STOCK CAR WHEEL 26mm BLACK (0mm OFFSET)
#3855 VINTAGE STOCK CAR WHEEL 26mm WHITE (0mm OFFSET)
#3856 VINTAGE STOCK CAR WHEEL 26mm GUNMETAL (0mm OFFSET)
#3857 VINTAGE STOCK CAR WHEEL 26mm CHROME (0mm OFFSET)
#3858 VINTAGE STOCK CAR WHEEL 31mm BLACK (6mm OFFSET)
#3859 VINTAGE STOCK CAR WHEEL 31mm WHITE (6mm OFFSET)
#3860 VINTAGE STOCK CAR WHEEL 31mm GUNMETAL (6mm OFFSET)

Bodies: 1985 and older body styles only. No additional spoilers, except whatever comes *with* the body (HPI Camaros, etc.). NO WINGS (except on Plymouth Superbird/Dodge Daytona from RJSpeed).

Bodies must be 1955-1985 full-fendered stock car “Street Stock/Bomber/Thunder Car”-type body. Legal bodies are the following:

http://www.rjspeed.com - RJSpeed
‘71 Mercury Cyclone P/N #1034
'55 Chevy "Sportsman" P/N #RJS1051
'68 Chevy Camaro SS P/N #BOL2112 (7.6" wide)
'65 Ford Mustang Shelby GT P/N #2113 (7.6" wide)
'68 Chevy Chevelle P/N #BOL2213
'69 Dodge Charger P/N #BOL2257
'68 Chevy Camaro P/N #BOL2262 (8" wide)
'65 Ford Mustang Shelby GT P/N #BOL2263 (8" wide)
'64 Chevy Impala P/N #BOL2264
'69 Ford Torino Talladega P/N #BOL2265
'70 Chevy Nova SS P/N #BOL2278
'72 Chevy Monte Carlo P/N #BOL2286
'70 Plymouth Superbird (with wing) P/N #BOL2287
'67 Chevy Camaro P/N #BOL2371 (9" wide)
'65 Ford Mustang Shelby GT P/N #BOL2374
'55 Chevy Bel-Air P/N #BOL2382

http://www.windtunnelracingproducts.com/ - Wind Tunnel Racing Products
’83-’85 ASA Pontiac Firebird Late Model P/N #WT2392

http://www.mcallisterracing.com/racing/ - McAllister Racing
’74-’81 Camaro Street Stock P/N #264
’70 Ford Mustang Street Stock P/N #136
’70 Plymouth Barracuda Street Stock P/N #134
’83-’85 Pontiac Firebird Street Stock P/N #256
’57 Ford Bomber P/N #181
’55 Chevy Bomber P/N #182
'78 Camaro IROC P/N #275
'59 Plymouth P/N #292
'69 Charger P/N #290
'85 Monte Carlo P/N #268
'70 Pontiac Firebird P/N #295

http://www.hpiracing.com/home/ - HPI Racing
1965 Ford Shelby GT-350 Mustang (200mm) P/N #17508
1966 Ford Mustang GT (200mm) P/N #17519
1968 Chevy Camaro (200mm) P/N #7494
1978 Pontiac Firebird Trans-Am (200mm) P/N #107201
1970 Dodge Challenger (200mm) P/N #1015106
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302 (200mm) P/N #17546
1969 Chevy Camaro (200mm) P/N #17531
1966 Ford Mustang Coupe (200mm) P/N #104926

http://www.parmapse.com/
’61 Chevy Impala P/N #PA10196 (Parma)
’70 Ford Boss Mustang P/N #PA10141 (Parma)
’57 Chevy P/N #PA10162 (Parma)
’70 Barracuda P/N #PA10113 (Parma)

http://www.speedysracingparts.com/Bodies.htm - Speedy’s Racing Parts
’74-’81 Camaro Street Stock P/N #MCA-264 (McAllister)
‘70 Plymouth Barracuda Street Stock P/N #134 (McAllister)
‘70 Ford Mustang Street Stock P/N #136 (McAllister)
’57 Ford Bomber P/N #MCA-181 (McAllister)
’55 Chevy Bomber P/N #MCA-182 (McAllister)
’68 Chevy Chevelle P/N #BL2213 (old BoLink P/N)
’69 Dodge Charger P/N #BL2257 (old BoLink P/N)
’68 Chevy Camaro P/N #BL2262 (old BoLink P/N)
’65 Ford Mustang P/N #BL2263 (190mm) (old BoLink P/N)
’64 Chevy Impala P/N #BL2264 (old BoLink P/N)
’70 Chevy Nova P/N #BL2278 (old BoLink P/N)
’69 Ford Torino Talladega/Mercury Cyclone Spoiler P/N #BL2265 (old BoLink P/N)
’72 Chevy Monte Carlo P/N #BL2286 (old BoLink P/N)
’70 Plymouth Superbird P/N #BL2287 (old BoLink P/N)

http://www.amainhobbies.com/index.ph...filter_mfr/325 - A-Main Hobbies/Pegasus Hobbies:
’70 1/2 Camaro PGH4001
’70 Mustang PGH4002
’70 Barracuda PGH4003

http://racepf.com/vintage-trans-am/j71-clear-body/ - ProtoForm Bodies
’70 AMC Javelin P/N 1526-00

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Looks great Jimmy...............good luck & have fun with the class
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awesome looking group of bomber bodies!!
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post #30 of 56 (permalink) Old 06-30-2013, 12:38 PM
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Jimmy your idea is great. Hope it works for you FL racers.

Here is a look at some of the original Trans AM cars for VTA, not exactly bombers, but real nostalig for the older racers.

http://www.historictransam.com/Cars.html
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