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The Twilight Zone filmed on Video Tape?

Anyone ever notice a few episodes of the original Twilight Zone show was video taped, instead of regular filmed? ie: "The Long Distance Call", (1962) with Billy Mumy calling his grandma on a haunted toy phone. Was the producers experimenting with the new media? Anyone know the back story on this? Or why it was used and then seemingly dropped?

I kind of find it interesting. It also makes for a creepier effect. It reminds me of "Dark Shadows".
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Anyone ever notice a few episodes of the original Twilight Zone show was video taped, instead of regular filmed?
Yeah; early TV. A seventies show, The Starlost was also on tape. STTNG was shot on film, then posted on tape.

I hate tape.
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Anyone know the back story on this? Or why it was used and then seemingly dropped?
It was a cost cutting move by the network. Six episodes during the second season were taped as an experiment to see if it was feasible to shoot on tape instead of film. Here is what the Trivia section of the Twilight Zone entry on IMDB has to say about this:

"Due to budgetary constraints in its second season, the network decided to cut costs by shooting some episodes on videotape rather than film. Because videotape was a relatively primitive medium in the early 1960s, the editing of tape was next to impossible. Thus, each of the 6 episodes was "camera-cut" as in live TV, on a studio sound stage, using a total of four cameras. The requisite multicamera setup of the videotape experiment, pretty much precluded location shooting, severely limiting the potential scope of the story-lines, and so, the short-lived experiment was ultimately abandoned. The 6 videotaped episodes were titled: "The Twilight Zone" (1959) {The Lateness of the Hour (#2.8)}; "The Twilight Zone" (1959) {Static (#2.20)}; "The Twilight Zone" (1959) {The Whole Truth (#2.14)}; "The Twilight Zone" (1959) {The Night of the Meek (#2.11)}; "The Twilight Zone" (1959) {Twenty Two (#2.17)}; "The Twilight Zone" (1959) {Long Distance Call (#2.22)}."

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Thanks for that info. I noticed that in a few episodes, but wrongly assumed that the original film had been lost and a tape copy was all that existed. Nice to know the tape is the original.
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Thanks for that info. I noticed that in a few episodes, but wrongly assumed that the original film had been lost and a tape copy was all that existed. Nice to know the tape is the original.
You're welcome. Actually, I'm surprised the taped episodes actually survived. Back in the 50s and 60s, a lot of shows that were shot on videotape were erased and the tapes reused in order to save money. The BBC in England did this to most of the early William Hartnell Dr. Who episodes and they're gone. If I remember correctly, many episodes of The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson were lost because NBC recycled the tapes.

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"Filmed on video tape"?

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I've seen a few of the episodes in question; it's instantly noticeable. They look like soap operas in comparison to the rest of the show's run.

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"Filmed on video tape"?

I hear folks today talking about "filming" something with their digital video cameras. It's now the generic term for capturing video - regardless of whether any actual film is involved.
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"Night of the Meek" is the one videotaped TW episode that really works for me and which I think would have been less effective as a typical filmed episode. It is clearly directed "live on tape" and Carney's live experience on "The Honeymooners" definitely shines through. It's a powerfully moving performance.

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I hear folks today talking about "filming" something with their digital video cameras. It's now the generic term for capturing video - regardless of whether any actual film is involved.
Some terms will just stick with us, and really, I'm fine with that. I think 'filmed' sounds better than, say, 'captured' or even 'recorded', the word 'filmed' somewhat implies something special.

I've given up trying to get my mom to stop calling DVDs 'tapes'
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I always wondered what "Night of the Meek" would look like if it were filmed like the other episodes. It still was a great episode.

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Some terms will just stick with us, and really, I'm fine with that. I think 'filmed' sounds better than, say, 'captured' or even 'recorded', the word 'filmed' somewhat implies something special.

I've given up trying to get my mom to stop calling DVDs 'tapes'
I'm having that crisis of terms with my new digital camcorder that records to an SD card. I keep saying "Got it on tape - errr."
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I've noticed on a lot of early video footage, if an actor made a really quick movement, that sometimes there would be kind of a really weird blur or streak.
Don't know if this was a lighting or tape problem.
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I've noticed on a lot of early video footage, if an actor made a really quick movement, that sometimes there would be kind of a really weird blur or streak.
Don't know if this was a lighting or tape problem.
It was a camera/lighting problem. The early tube cameras couldn't process "hot" spots or rapid movement very well.

Basically - prior to Digital TV, there were three delivery/archival mediums used in television - film, Kinescope, and videotape. Prior to the use of videotape,TV programs were broadcast "live" using video cameras, or they were shot (and edited) on film and then broadcast from a film chain through a video camera, or they were shot with video cameras which were recorded to film by pointing a film camera at a video monitor - this was called a Kinescope. Each has a distinctive look - if you know what you're looking at.*

*There was also Jackie Gleason's "Electronicam" - which was a variation on a theme.

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I'm having that crisis of terms with my new digital camcorder that records to an SD card. I keep saying "Got it on tape - errr."
We recently went on vacation and didn't even take our "camera". However, we shot lots of pics with our iPhones.
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